Dutch navy ship intercepted by jets after turn towards Russian waters, Moscow says

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    • #432256
      Passionate Progressive
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      This happened on 24 June but was just reported

      ‘Amsterdam Blasts Dangerous Flyover’

      Fighter planes and bomber jets were dispatched to follow a Dutch naval vessel only after it changed direction towards Russian waters, defense officials in Moscow said on Tuesday, amid a growing diplomatic spat over the incident.

      The frigate Evertsen was on course to violate the Russian border in the Black Sea, but was prevented from doing so by Russian jets flying at a safe distance from the vessel, Moscow claimed, in response to Amsterdam’s complaints.

      The incident occurred on June 24, just a day after the British Royal Navy destroyer HMS Defender violated Russian territorial waters off Crimea’s Cape Fiolent and was warned off by jets and a coast guard vessel.

      While sailing in neutral waters, the HNLMS Evertsen “changed its course and began to move in the direction of the Kerch Strait,” Moscow’s Ministry of Defense said on Tuesday. Su-30 fighters and Su-24 bombers were dispatched “to prevent (the) violation” of Russian territorial waters. They flew “at a safe distance” near the Dutch ship, which “immediately” changed its course to the previous route, at which point the interceptors returned to base.

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    • #432260
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      NATO really hasn’t had a modus vivendi since the demise of the Warsaw Pact, so why are citizens of NATO countries even tolerating this big expense on their countries’ budgets?   By showing that it only exists to aggravate the peace of the world and stir up trouble, NATO is setting up good reasons for countries to withdraw from it.  The fewer countries in NATO, the better; and the sooner they pull out, the better.

      Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

      • #432264
        Passionate Progressive
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        Very well put!

        The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.....Martin Luther King '63

        It takes all the technical proficiency our system can provide to make up for the woeful lack of popular support and political savvy of most of the regimes that the West has thus far sought to prop up.........Bernard Fall

      • #434225
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        So long as The West has eastern competitors who lack pure Capitalist motives the east will be seen as ‘unfriendly to Free-Marketism’.

        The folks who hawk free-marketism really have no tolerance for the international market being free to choose what works best. The freedom of International financialism is strictly limited to models that promote the profits and survival of international financialism. Does this really surprise anyone? It should not.

        Ending the pandemic needs a shot in the arm.

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    • #432267
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      Whoever “they” is – military, defense contractors, “intelligence” or some combination.

      Otherwise, there’d be a little bit of common sense —

    • #432301
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      This goes on all the time. A ship makes a run at an adversary’s territorial limit and turns away at the last minute. The almost-violated country says, “We chased them away!” The almost-violaters say, “We weren’t going to trespass anyway.”

    • #432356
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      @hasslecat:

      No, I don’t agree with your optimistic assessment. Tell me,

      please, since when the Baltic Sea is part of the North Atlantic

      to justify such huge military display from NATO. Also let me

      know why Brazil is supposedly taking part in all this provocation.

      As far as I know that country is not even close to the Atlantic.

      This all may lead to a totally unnecessary confrontation  during

      which “mistakes” may occur.

    • #432468
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @hasslecat is right. Like a Dutch frigate is any real threat to the Russian naval base in Sevastopol. Like the Russians had any intention of actually sinking the ship. Like the Dutch actually had any intention of actually doing anything other than thumbing their noses at or maybe mooning the Russians.

      It’s stupid, yes, but there’s no way anyone is actually going to go to war with nuclear-armed Russia over this nonsense. It’s just dick-waving.

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