Elizabeth Warren Is RUNNING

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    • #6634
      Segami
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      Elizabeth Warren Is RUNNING

       

      “…Every person in America should be able to work hard, play by the same set of rules, & take care of themselves & the people they love. That’s what I’m fighting for, & that’s why I’m launching an exploratory committee for president. I need you with me…”

       

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    • #6642
      Joe Shlabotnik
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      But it’s still early, we’ll see how the field shapes up, and shakes out I guess.

      ~ All good things are Wild and Free ~

    • #6643
      djean111
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      For some reason, I do not trust you, you seem too willing to compromise on things.  And the banks are still running the show, and fat and happy.

    • #6650
      David the Gnome
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      Or someone very similar to them runs – I will likely vote for Warren.  Of course, it will depend on what happens between now and then – but generally I like her.

      I think not joining Bernie in 2016 was a calculated decision.  She would have known that would turn a large number of Clinton dems against her.  She knew she would need them if she ran in 2020, IMO.

      Clinton was a fool not to ask her to be VP.  It wouldn’t have healed all the damage or made everything okay – but it might have given her enough progressive votes to win.

    • #6653
      bazukhov
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      All of which can be used by her opponents to pick through and emphasized no matter how trivial.

      If she does win the nomination, I’ll have no serious trouble voting for her.   But, I don’t think she’ll win the nomination.  She easily passes the “lesser of two evils” test against Don.   Of course, almost anyone not currently in an asylum or prison passes that test.

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    • #6655
      Sorechasm
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      I predict that both Bernie and Elizabeth will run. They seem to have been planning this out for years. They will let the voters in the early primaries determine who is the best candidate to beat Trump. On the debate stage, the two of them can overpower the establishment candidate(s) and stick to their message. A message that they own.

      “Go and tell Alexander that God the Supreme King is never the Author of insolent wrong, but is the Creator of light, of peace, of life, of water, of the body of man and of souls;...what Alexander offers and the gifts he promises are things to me utterly useless;..." Dandamis, a great sannyasi of Taxila.Excerpt From: Yogananda, Paramahansa. “Autobiography of a Yogi.”

    • #6657
      N2Doc
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      But light years better than Biden, Booker, Beto, Scammela, and the other corpora-dems

    • #6658
      NJCher
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      Let’s face it:  there is no one else who has stood up to them like she has.

      The problem is that I think she’s a fairly lousy politician. She doesn’t seem to have the “right instincts,” which may also make her a good and decent person. She could win paired up with the right person. Hmm, wonder who that could be?

      Cher

      • #6804
        ozoneman
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        Bernie! Did I get it right?

        I’ll vote for Bernie/Elizabeth or Bernie/Tulsi.

    • #6659
      Sanders Independent
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      something we seem to have in common. Fence sitting.

      formerly SandersDem @Squibbles on Twitter

    • #6662
      mrdmk
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      Warren has evolved over the years. She like many others is smart, knowledgeable, and willing to examine her beliefs. On domestic and economic issues Warren will be better than what we have seen in a long time. Foreign policy maybe a problem area.

      A closer look at her voting record is what I need to do for myself at this moment.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

    • #6677
      game meat
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      The good: She would be less transformative than Sanders, but seems sincere about tackling important problems like income inequality. At a minimum, I think she would at least work to tame the most blatant abuses of capitalism.

      The bad: The whole Pocahontas thing was a disaster. It would be difficult for her to have handled it in a worse way. She walked right into Trump’s trap and made a fool of herself in the process. Her conduct in 2016 made her seem like an opportunist who only speaks up when it’s safe to do so. Not endorsing Sanders when he holds the positions she claims to support make it hard to really trust her. Also, corpo dems are perfectly comfortable with her. Why?

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        Bellicose Lugosi
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        Our family brought the Native American topic up over Christmas – and we all agreed.  If the test didn’t show at least 25% or greater lineage, don’t say a word.

        She looked like a fool, gleefully!

        That shows really terrible judgment in my opinion.

         

        It's alright Ma, it's life and life only.

    • #6684
      ZimInSeattle
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      Warren too often hasn’t stuck her neck out to take a stand. And the twitter war she had with Trump was just stupid as hell.

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK #SurviveAndRevolt

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      MikeW285
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      Us regular Americans already play by the rules (as tilted in favor of the oligarchics as many of said rules Are), Elizabeth.   …It’s the banksters, corporatocracy/kleptocracy and congress-critters who need to be forced to “play by the rules”.   They’re the thiefs that Bernie Sanders will actually take to the woodshed if he runs, and wins (if the above thieves (in the guise of the DNC) don’t steal it from him again).

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      Babel 17
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      The time for excitement was in 2015. Announcing that a fiercely progressive woman was seeking the Presidency would have been big news then.

      You chose not to announce, and a fiercely progressive man picked up the torch in your absence, and you chose to not support your former supporters.

      You should have hedged your bets better, and showed more loyalty to the movement that you decided not to lead, and which Sanders championed.

      You can still earn my vote, but let’s not ignore history.

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        Segami
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        ….No matter what we think about Warren, she comes to the table with her OWN loyal supporters who see her as a very qualified candidate for the presidency. Bernie has admitted countless times that he and Warren speak with each other almost everyday and there have been reports of very private meetings between them two. I believe their discussions focused primarily on the progressive and independent vote……..and some kind of mutual accord was struck between them of what should happen should either one of them decide to drop out early. The candidate dropping out early (Warren) would agree to make a very public, media-covered announcement telling her supporters to get behind the other candidate (Bernie)……..

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          Segami
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          Unlike 2016, I have a gut feeling that BOTH Warren & Sanders would want either side’s supporters to stay within their circle of influence. I strongly believe that such discussions & understandings have been ongoing for quite some time between both parties. Even if Warren leaves the race early and is not ‘feasible or risky’ for Bernie to ask her to be his VP, Bernie will no doubt (through this understanding) have a very high-profile position waiting for Warren should he win the presidency. This accord will be understood by both Warren & Sanders…..

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            Segami
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            I strongly believe this has been a major part of their private discussions…….I don’t believe Bernie wants to get caught flat-footed this time around ‘hoping’ for public support from others like Warren back in 2016……….I believe there’s way too much at stake here with each side (Warren & Bernie) expecting a crystal clear plan of attack should either side exit the presidential primary race early. They BOTH should expect each other’s very public support coupled with as many campaign appearances needed………

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              Segami
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              We’ll see this time around if Warren will redeem herself with Bernie supporters, casting her support behind Bernie’s candidacy exclusively should she exit the Dem primary early………the world will be eagerly watching what Warren does when she arrives at this crossroad junction once again……

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      Probably not, more’s the pity. The timing does not speak well of her political abilities. I like Warren, but have some serious reservations. She was a Republican once upon a time; granted, people sometimes really do change and Warren’s positions have definitely evolved in a progressive direction over the years. I prefer Bernie.

       

       

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    • #6743
      JustSayin
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      no suppoty for DAPL

      Did not support Berne against the witch

      flipflops like hillary

       

       

      NO THANKS

      Never expect different result by following the previous steps

    • #6903
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      That carries weight with me.  They know the daily details of her work better than I do out here in the hinterlands.

    • #6905
      Pastiche
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      5th try.

      “We’re about to have an election in which Incompetent A is going to be contesting with Incompetent B when both of them have demonstrated nothing remotely like any shred of adequacy to the scope of the problems we face.”

      Richard Wolff

    • #6937
      Mick063
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      This is the farthest I would be willing to compromise. Certainly not my favorite in the primary, not even in the top three, but as far as general elections go, she makes my short list of not leaving the top of the ballot blank.

      I have seen a few of her interviews and she has no problem exposing blatant exploitation of the working class. She isn’t perfect, but like I said, a compromise. I think she might even do a great job. She certainly would promote her pet project of consumer protectionism.

      Now I have to wonder if the neo liberal purists would get behind her. If they are looking to meet half way, Warren just about defines how far they would have to move the needle.

       

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    • #6956
      incognito
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      After what she did to Bernie in Massachusetts during the primary? Hell no.

      Bernie or Green Party.

    • #6957
      ravensong
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      candidate.  Any candidate less progressive than Elizabeth is off the table for me.

      “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

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    • #6962
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      strategy.  I also feel like he trusts her, though I dont understand why.  at this point I would vote for her v. trump if there were no better alternative.  Hilary, biden, harris, booker etc none are a better alternative in my book.  warren knows Washington & has done some good along with the stuff I would question.  I dont understand why she didnt back Bernie in 2016 though

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      sadoldgirl
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      What if you are not able to take care of yourself or the people you love

      due to those rules? That statement tells me again how opportunism is

      her guide. Where does she stand as far as the MIC is concerned, as more than half

      of everyones federal tax money goes to it?

      The same statement could have come from Hillary and her supporters, i.e.

      it means nothing.

      Forget it! I am not willing to be fooled again via a nothing-burger.

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      https://i.postimg.cc/fRtr5xB5/Bernie-2020-JPR.jpg

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      ~Samuel Clemens

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