Elizabeth Warren Retreats From Medicare for All

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      Warren latest plan ostensibly provides for the “transitioning to Medicare for All.” In reality, it is a clearer indication that she has settled for the public option, like most of the rest of the field. Within the first 100 days of her administration, she proposes to pass a bill allowing anyone to buy into Medicare—while providing it free of charge to children under 18 and anyone making less than 200 percent of the federal poverty level ($51,500 for a family of four). Her administration would use budget reconciliation to avoid the Senate filibuster and pass with only 51 votes—though this process would still require Democratic squishes like Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema to find something resembling conviction.

      Warren’s proposal would cap premiums at 5 percent of income—which would be competitive with most, if not all, employer-sponsored insurance; competing plans among the Democratic field peg the cap at 8 percent. The covered benefits would match those enumerated in Bernie Sanders’s Medicare for All bill. Confusingly, she also claims the bill would “gradually decrease to zero” the cost-sharing, like premiums and co-pays, in “subsequent years.” This is essentially saying the public option would morph into free healthcare at some point—like Medicare for All, but without the abolition of private insurance. Who but the obscenely rich would keep paying for private insurance if there’s a free public option that covers everything? And why would such a plan be easier to pass than Medicare for All? Those questions remain unanswered.

      What, then, of Medicare for All—the real deal? Warren claims that this would be achieved in her third year in office. It is worth recalling that it wasn’t until March of Barack Obama’s second year in office that the Affordable Care Act was passed. That plan was decidedly less ambitious than the public option and it took five additional years to implement fully. In all likelihood, Warren’s public option—the first stage of her two-stage plan—will take more than 100 days to pass, and most beneficiaries may not be transitioned to her public option by the beginning of 2023. Warren nevertheless argues that “the number of individuals voluntarily remaining in private insurance would likely be quite low” in her third year in office.

      But Warren can’t possibly believe that 2023—a year after midterm elections that traditionally tend to reduce the number of legislators in the president’s party—would be a more auspicious time to enact a single-payer bill. Her latest proposal, then, is smoke and mirrors, a red herring—any cliche you like. It looks as if Warren’s feet of clay have returned, and that this proposal merely allows her to continue to claim that she supports Medicare for All. Under a Warren presidency, we would be immensely lucky to see her pass a public option that remains as generous as the one she outlined on her website today. Rallying support in her third year to bring about an even larger overhaul of the system is incredibly quixotic.

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      The final deal has to be put on the table on an issue so divisive as public vs private health care insurance.

      An universal health care insurance deal is something no US american has experienced, so they don’t know.

      What it means is that health care monetary concerns have vanished from a persons life.  It means that the “homeless” aren’t treated like human litter.  Of concern is to support the health care system, to make sure it’s responsive and well funded.  So people can fully exercise their rights in all spheres of life.

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      Of course she does. I guess it’s good that Warren isn’t as an accomplished liar as Hillary is, so people can see this before the primaries, rather than after.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

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      I wasn’t going to vote for her anyway.

      I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".


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      Babel 17
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      And this undermines, by way of guilt by association, Senator Sanders much more realistic Medicare for All proposal.

      “See, Elizabeth Warren finally realized it’s a non-starter”

      Maybe she’s just executing the role the establishment hoped she’d fill. Absorb Sanders supporters and lead them towards being much less consequential a force than they would be behind Sanders.

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        that’s the same thing with the ACA’s “lemon socialism”–“the government got involved and it’s still crap! you think more government is the solution?!”

        here it is, just as open-to-all programs work better than means-tested nickel-and-dime

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      Snort McDork
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      Well, there go her Iowa and NH poll numbers.

      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

      "I like birdy num-nums"

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      What’s behind Liz Warren’s humiliating retreat on ‘Medicare for All’?


      Like almost all the Democrats early in the race, Warren’s fundamental mistake was to believe she had to chase Sanders around the track, which inevitably involved backing his signature health-care proposal. But it became immediately evident that it’s one thing to promise to eliminate all private health insurance if you are a self-declared socialist; it’s quite another if you imagine yourself anything short of that.

      As soon as another erstwhile Bernie-band-wagoner, Harris, ­uttered out loud that she would end private health insurance, it created a controversy that she was clearly uncomfortable with. As a way to wiggle out of it, she came up with her own plan.

      Warren lasted longer. Her undoing was that her resolute unwillingness to say that she’d raise middle-class taxes to pay for the program undermined her self-image as a woman with a “plan for that.”

      She had to jerry-rig a ­financing program built on such outlandishly rosy assumptions about costs and revenues that even her journalistic cheerleaders have been skeptical. As she continued to take fire, Warren ­announced her “transition” plan, effectively signaling the program is not a first-term priority

      Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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