Elizabeth Warren’s Plan Is To Now Cause Chaos At The Convention
March 2, 2020 at 9:36 PM - Views: 128 #278695sonofspy777Participant
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Elizabeth Warren’s poor performance so far in the primaries has been quite a shock considering how well-known and well-liked she is. But her poor performance should have driven her out of the race by this point, and the only reason she’s staying in the game is because she thinks she can win at a brokered convention. Warren is still a good progressive, but this plan is absolutely horrendous, as Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins explains.
Well, Tom Steyer dropped out of the race on Saturday. Pete Buttigieg dropped out to the race on Sunday. But Elizabeth Warren is still in this thing, and according to her team, she is going to ride this all the way to the convention, even if she doesn’t win a single state. So what’s the plan here? I mean, at least Buttigieg, he didn’t win the popular vote in Iowa, but he did win in the total number of delegates by one or two. So he technically won Iowa. Tom Steyer came in third in South Carolina. Elizabeth Warren came in fifth in South Carolina, yet Steyer’s out. Buttigieg is out. But Warren says, no, I’m sticking in this. I’m going to keep riding this till the bitter end even if I don’t win any States. I mean, do y’all understand, tomorrow is Super Tuesday, 14 States are voting tomorrow and Elizabeth Warren is likely to lose every single one of them, including her home state of Massachusetts. And that means after tomorrow we will have had 18 contests, Warren will not have won a single one of them.
So why is she still in it? Why does she want to take this to the convention? Because she is hoping, she is betting on a brokered convention in which the pledge delegates and the superdelegates in round two of voting when nobody’s pledged anymore, will somehow decide that even though she lost every race, she is still the best candidate. And I’m sorry but if that happens the Democratic party is done, absolutely done. Think about it this way. If we go to that convention and no delicate has enough delegates to win the first round, you know, the first vote and then we go to the superdelegates with the next one. But at the same time all of the other pledge delegates become unpledged. They can all literally vote for anyone they want just like the superdelegates. So suddenly round two of voting, if we get there, is basically nothing but superdelegates. Everybody can vote for whoever they want. And do you understand the kinds of ads the Republicans are going to run if we come to that? Saying that the Dems can’t even run their own party. They couldn’t run their own primaries. Look at what happened in Iowa, because they’re still talking about that.
Bernie figured he could do more good ALIVE,
than dead in a small plane "accident".
I think he's right.
March 2, 2020 at 9:43 PM #278699ThouArtThatParticipant
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For some of us that remember 2016, the Vichy Dems have played their hand too early. Should the Vichy Dems successfully deny Bernie the nomination, it will guarantee more third party votes and assuredly hand the Presidency back to Trump. Without question, this citizen will never support Biden, Bloomberg or Warren after the stunts and shenanigans observed in 2020 and with the memory of 2016 etched forever in memory.
Sooner or later we all sit down to a banquet of consequences.
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March 2, 2020 at 9:44 PM #278700SatanParticipant
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy
March 2, 2020 at 9:50 PM #278703Two way streetParticipant
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time holding up a Warren sign?
2020 Campaign Season: We the People are in the fight for our lives and livelihoods.
March 2, 2020 at 10:06 PM #278711Red CloudParticipant
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A younger version of myself remembers that third parties have different, therefore unconstitutional rules, to play by. To get on the ballot they will need thousands and thousands of signatures, which allow TPTB to play tricks, such as have their own operatives sign said petitions with false ID to the knowingly corrupt AG who can challenge those specific names to the knowingly corrupt justice who will then over turn the petition.
The dummies and repugs only need a handful of signatures to put their unwelcome asses back on the ballot. Why do they presume that they deserve such a heavily biased treatment? If most people detest the government they have, let them pound the pavements too to prove it.
March 2, 2020 at 10:07 PM #278712leftcoast mountainsParticipant
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40% of Warren’s supporters would vote for Bernie if she were to drop out. It’s her job to keep that from happening. That is why she is attacking him to keep her supporter from going over to Bernie and the movement.
vote for nobody
March 2, 2020 at 10:39 PM #278732incognitoParticipant
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She wants to play dirty. So be it.
Game on, 🐍!
Protest her ass. Harass her ass any time she is in public. She shouldn’t be allowed ANY peace until she does the right thing and drops out.
AND…. why would anyone vote for such a loser? Because she has a vagina? She has ZERO chance of winning any state. Why waste your vote?
March 2, 2020 at 10:56 PM #278742HassleCatParticipant
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Once delegates become unpledged, anything can happen. Hillary Clinton (swoon!) could jump in there. So could anyone else, literally. They could nominate Fred Fogerty, the janitor at the Memphis 7-Eleven. It makes sense for Warren to stay in the race at least unti it’s clear there will be no brokered convention. If she drops out, most of her support will go to Biden, I suspect.
March 3, 2020 at 12:33 PM #279086
March 2, 2020 at 11:07 PM #278757RufusTFireflyParticipant
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… for a pretty long time.
But the mounting evidence makes it hard to ignore that she’s abandoned any progressive scruples and is intent on sabotaging Bernie. Oh well. Her loss. No cabinet position for you, Lizzie!
March 2, 2020 at 11:13 PM #278775YanathParticipant
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in the context provided by our planet’s collapsing biological systems (the only one that matters), and which demands an immediate, radical departure from the energy, economic, transportation and agricultural status quo, cannot possibly mean anyone who embraces capitalist ideology. Sorry about that.
March 2, 2020 at 11:14 PM #278776Mick063Participant
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The establishment Democrats are thinking long term in a most delusional way. Deny Bernie in 2020 and then after that, he is too old with no one to assume his role. That is their mindset.
Here is what the Vichy Democrats don’t understand about us:
* We are not a product of Bernie. Bernie is a product of us. When Bernie goes away, we do not go away. We find someone to fill his niche.
* We are thinking long term as well. This doesn’t end for us in 2020 and we will have long memories. How long of memories? Well, for example, we don’t give a shit about Hillary’s emails (a Republican talking point). We are pissed at how she pioneered the DLC with the Koch Brothers. Now that is an example of long memory. Another example: We don’t give a shit about Obamacare. We only remember the brutal nationwide crackdown on Occupy during Obama’s watch
* For many Democrats and former Democrats, this is a last ditch effort to reform the party from within. Screw the people over this time and the party will never, ever recover. You can take that to the bank.
* Nature abhors a void and relentlessly fills it’s empty niches. There is a huge void in the political representation of the working class. A void that was once filled by the party of FDR but has long since been abandoned. Nature will find a way to fill that void. It always does.
"I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt
March 2, 2020 at 11:21 PM #278784The Red MenaceParticipant
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Every politician insists they’re “in the race til the end” tight until they drop out. Bootycheeks said he was “in for the convention” just like two days before South Carolina, for example.
It’s just a question of when exactly their ego realizes reality.
And something yall gotta remember is that Liz is a white woman with money. her ego is the size of a mack truck – almost as big as her sense of perpetual victimhood. It’s going to take fourteen states (at least) looking her in the eye and voting for literally anyone else for her to get the message.
At which point she’ll drop out, blame Biden and Sanders’ penises for oppressing her, then pretend that if only everyone had voted for her and no one else had run, she would have won.
March 3, 2020 at 3:03 AM #278979Ohio BarbarianModerator
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She appears increasingly unhinged to me. Almost hysterical, in the original Freudian sense.
It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs
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March 2, 2020 at 11:31 PM #278790FedUpParticipant
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I think she’s simply positioning herself to be the compromise candidate. Won’t work, but I think she thinks she fills the niche between Bernie and Biden and the Party will turn to her as their savior on the 2nd ballot. No other reason for her to stay in this thing. If Bernie gets denied at the convention, the November election should be called off and Trump declared the winner. He’s the only one with a realistic chance of defeating the SOB.
March 3, 2020 at 12:18 AM #278830
March 3, 2020 at 12:20 AM #278832NV WinoModerator
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She is the designated spoiler. The last minute cash infusion makes me think she has been ordered to stay in. I wonder what the DNC has on her. She has lied about so many inconsequential things and gotten away with it, this one must be a doozy.
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