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  • Babel 17 (2198 posts)
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    Enough with the Democratic Party Doesn't Get It….They Totally Get It …

    Enough with the Democratic Party Doesn’t Get It….They Totally Get It & Keep Playing Us as Fools

    Sane Progressive

     

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  • ThouArtThat (2848 posts)
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    1. What The Democratic Party Does Not Seem To Get Is That Many Have Now Caught On

    Now awakened to the reality of a failed political system and bogus narrative, many are also moving on.

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  • daleanime (1700 posts)
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    2. Oh, they get it……

    and they’ll continue to act like they don’t as long as we allow it.

    When the going gets tough, the tough take care of each other
  • Port tack 8 (543 posts)
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    3. They get it

    They just can’t figure out when and how we woke up, they are trying to get us back to sleep so they can carry on as usual.

    • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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      4. One thing they get for sure is

      BRIBERY MONEY!

      "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
  • Kermitt Gribble (12 posts)
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    5. My take on the Party since the election

    is that they do get it. They know they cannot win without Progressives, and are trying to figure a way to project to us that they are making changes, without making any changes.

    • Babel 17 (2198 posts)
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      6. Yes

      And one way to do that is to always be vociferously opposed to something. They’re reticent about coming out for actual legislation; that puts them on record, and it raises the question why it was never brought up when the Democrats had the Presidency, and the House and Senate.

      • Major Hogwash (1696 posts)
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        8. According to parlimentary procedure, the majority party decides which . . .

        . . proposed pieces of legislation will be submitted to the appropriate committee to be drafted in to a bill. Then, after the committee drafts the bill, and that proposed bill is voted out of committee (that is, it is approved by a simple majority vote), it is then sent to the floor of the respective house of Congress. Where the entire chamber may debate the bill, make revisions, and add amendments, and then after the bill is in its final version, then it can be voted upon by the entire house of Congress.

        If, and only if, that proposed bill ever comes out of the relevant committee that drafted the bill, to begin with. The Republicans currently control all of the committee chair positions, so they control the agenda of all of the committees. Therefore, they control the flow of all of the proposed legislation. So, naturally, all of that proposed legislation must be approved by the Republicans in order to come out of the committees.

        That is why the minority party can not come out with any legislation. The Republican party, currently the majority party, will never allow those Democratically-proposed bills to ever reach the floor in their respective chambers of Congress. This is true for both the House of Representatives, and also for the Senate.

        • Babel 17 (2198 posts)
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          9. "why it was never brought up when the Democrats had the Presidency …"

          “why it was never brought up when the Democrats had the Presidency, and the House and Senate” is what I said. ;)

          With the Republicans in control, but lacking 60 votes in the Senate, the Democrats have to either bargain, obstruct, or combine the two. So if they bring up what they want to gain by bargaining they will be aware that people will remember that at one time they were in the majority, and thus be questioning how serious they are in fighting for what they are asking for now.

           

          • Major Hogwash (1696 posts)
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            10. Oh, I didn't get that part.

            Thanks for clarifying it for me.

            • Babel 17 (2198 posts)
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              13. My pleasure: I'm reminded of Sanders wanting to rein in drug prices

              https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2017/01/thirteen-democrats-just-stopped-bernie-sanders-ame.html

              Apart from it being horrifying to see Democrats vote against the bill, I wonder how much of it was due to protecting the narrative the party has it for itself.

              How can they let a Bernie Sanders get this done, under Republican rule, when all their super stars couldn’t make it happen under Democratic rule?

              If this bill passed now it would put scrutiny on why it didn’t come up back then. And the answer has to do with money.

        • Rozinante (2320 posts)
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          11. Who was in charge when the Dems lost the Senate, House…

          State Legislatures, and Governorships? Nearly 1000 seats in all. Why do they still think they can lead?  They have failed miserably…why would anyone hitch their wagon to those failed ‘leaders’?

          • Major Hogwash (1696 posts)
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            12. It's the only wagon in town.

            Out here, anyway.

    • FanBoy (6391 posts)
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      7. "trying to figure a way to project to us that they are making changes

      without making any changes.”

      kind of hopeless, I hope.