Ever wonder what an 8 point lead for Joe Biden would look like?

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    • #369501
      leftcoast mountains
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      vote for nobody

    • #369515
      Fasttense
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      “Senior Citizens, is it your time to go to a assisted living and, DIE?”

      I think she is implying that eldely folks need to go to assisted living so they can be the guinea pigs to test the COVID vaccine.

      I don’t trust her to provide any truthful information.

      (Just an aside, I kept reading her name as TwistedSister….can you tell what music I listen to?)

    • #369560
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      But this election has almost nothing to do with Biden and is just a referendum on Trump.  Plus Trump fans don’t think Covid-19 is real.  I still think it could go either way though.

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      Then I guess they either simply couldn’t bring themselves to go through with it and didn’t show up, or when they did show up, decided to vote for Jill Stein instead so as to strike preemptorily any claims of misogyny, or even said, ‘you know what, he’s not going to win anyway, it’s safe to vote for Trump as a protest vote.’

      The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.

    • #369595
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      @closeupready Hillary only had a 3 or 4 point lead in the Midwestern swing states that went to Trump, all by 1% or less. Biden has a 7 to 11 point lead, depending on the state and the poll. Unless there is a major shift, it is highly unlikely for Trump to carry Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, much less all three.

      Plus, Ohio, Iowa, Arizona and North Carolina are tossups, which wasn’t the case at this point in 2016, when Trump had at least small leads. Trump has to carry all of them to win, plus Florida and at least one of the three mentioned above.

      I think the crowd-sized photos are indicative of two things. First, the pandemic will keep most sensible people from cramming together in large potential super-spreader gatherings. Second, most Biden voters aren’t enthusiastic about Biden at all, they just want Trump gone, so why bother going to see Biden?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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      • #369601
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        @ohiobarbarian – I don’t trust ANY of the polling outfits.  100%.

        In addition, if they can’t be bothered to show up for a Biden rally, then can they be bothered to show up at the polls?  Most people believe (rightly) that their votes have little impact on their own daily lives, that the two parties represent one interest group – the oligarchs.  If they don’t like either guy, and are unpersuaded that voting matters, then I can see a Trump re-election happening (even though I would hate to see that).

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        Trump doesn’t need to win all 3 midwestern states, Biden more than likely does though.

        I think OH and IA are likely to go to Trump. Trump won OH by 9 points in 2016. It will be closer this time around, but I don’t see that state flipping.

        So if Trump wins NC, FL, and AZ….which is quite do-able according to current polling, then he just needs to win ONE more of the remaining battlegrounds (WI, MI, PA).

        That’s a narrow path, for sure. But it is a do-able path. Democrats are at the moment KILLING the GOP in vote by mail turnout in PA. But it’s a different story in MI and WI where both parties are looking like they are running even at the moment, which is bad news for Biden. But it’s early.

    • #369606
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      @closeupready The political scientist in me tells me Biden’s got this one sewn up. I even saw a couple of really effective ads this morning in Ohio–aimed right at the white 55-and-older crowd which really could swing the state away from Trump this year.

      Trump had one out, too, but it was pathetic. It actually praised his management of the pandemic, and bragged about the state of the economy! Shit, he’s already lost Mahoning County(remember the Lordstown GM plant? It’s closed.) He could easily lose Ohio to Joe Biden.

      That said, I really don’t give a shit. I’m voting Green, so my hands are clean. There’s no point in having any responsibility for Trump or Biden on one’s conscience, IMHO.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #369624
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      but this week I drove the ten miles to the dispensary in Uniontown Pa. On the way I noticed lots of campaign signs. On the way home I counted. 33 yards with at least one Trump sign, most had several, many had lots, but 33 different properties were advertising their support.  Funniest ones I saw were Jesus Loves Trump, and Trump No Bullshit. Ah the irony.

      Biden doesn’t fare well. 3 signs total. One of them was in the same yard with a Trump sign.

      From my observations, I would say that these recent polls are umm, let’s say cooked a bit.

      And I know this is an area of the country where people stick with their “guns and bibles, but it’s 33 to 3 guys. Biden ain’t got this by a long shot.

    • #369650
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      @jerry611 I don’t know where your figures are coming from for Arizona, but OK. Trump can win it, but I don’t think he will. Too many voters over 65 are pissed off at him and want him gone. He’s in trouble in Florida and North Carolina as well.

      If Biden carries the three flipped Midwestern states, don’t be surprised if he also takes Ohio and Iowa. As I said earlier, we’re going to know soon enough. All I know is that I think Trump’s running a terrible campaign in Ohio, and Biden’s running a smart one. It’s the exact reverse of 2016.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #369651
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      @dirtyhippybastard More people live within five miles of my house than probably do in your entire county. Neither one of us can apply what we see to the entire country or even our own respective entire states. You also have to look at voter turnout in the Philadelphia and Pittsburgh metro areas, and Erie County’s the one to watch, not the one where Uniontown is.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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