Fauci admits that the US funded Sars/Cov1 studies AT WUHAN LABS

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    • #422927
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      What could possibly go wrong?

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

    • #422933
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      Mr noble lie strikes again. If I were Biden, Id replace ol Tony with someone a little smoother with the fairytales.The way the msm pumps him up is telling

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    • #422937
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      and IMO he really likes the attention.  But this is why I don’t believe a fucking thing anyone in government says about Covid.  I don’t need to “hate” Fauci in order to consider him a liar who deserves no attention from me about Covid or anything else.  And why I would believe a doddering old president who does not mean well for me any more than Trump did – WTF.  IMO, Biden, with whatever sentience he has, is more about scoring against Trump and accumulating  election pandering than he is about actually helping people.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

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      Scott Crowder
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      The source. There is a reason there is so much resistance to admitting Covid is aerosoled and that it came from Wuhan Labs. Bioweapon delivery systems are aerosoled. The same people involved in the anthrax scare are involved with Wuhan Labs. A lot of shady things happened right before the “leak”.

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      I’ve been following this since feb, 2020. I’ve lost friends over this issue, so as i’ve pretty much limited my discussions of it since. Now, a year later it’s big news. It reminds me of the old Ghandi expression:

      First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.

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      David the Gnome
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      Yes, there are good questions to be asked – but Fauci, in this case, did not do or say anything that was a big reveal or confession.  Like a broken clock, Paul is occasionally right.  That does not mean that the virus came from or was created by the Wuhan lab or imply deliberate release in any event.

      The funding for research purposes may have had to do with gain of function, that in itself proves nothing.

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      the only real question is/was “how dangerous is/was Bernie Sanders?”

    • #423110
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      I think the article is bullshit.  I imagine the transcripts of the hearing would prove it.

      I see conservative media is all over this — catapulting the propaganda, so its pretty easy to understand how bullshit becomes ‘received truth’.


      “Senator Paul, with all due respect, you are entirely, entirely and completely incorrect,” Fauci said in response. “The NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain-of-function research in the Wuhan Institute of Virology.”

      Fauci then said that the doctor mentioned in reports doesn’t conduct such research—known as function research—as the two continued to argue. Fauci noted that the NIH did provide funding to a project at the Wuhan lab, but it was not for “gain of function” research designed to create super viruses.

      According to federal records published online, the NIH—which oversees Fauci’s agency—provided $3.7 million to Ecohealth Alliance, which conducted research of genetic analyses of bat coronaviruses and how they could spread to humans. The Trump administration terminated the Ecohealth grant last year.”


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        Cold Mountain Trail
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        However, this article seems to indicate Fauci’s lying


        “From June 2014 to May 2019, Daszak’s EcoHealth Alliance had a grant from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health, to do gain-of-function research with coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Whether or not SARS2 is the product of that research, it seems a questionable policy to farm out high-risk research to unsafe foreign labs using minimal safety precautions. And if the SARS2 virus did indeed escape from the Wuhan institute, then the NIH will find itself in the terrible position of having funded a disastrous experiment that led to death of more than 3 million worldwide, including more than half a million of its own citizens.The responsibility of the NIAID and NIH is even more acute because for the first three years of the grant to EcoHealth Alliance, there was a moratorium on funding gain-of-function research. Why didn’t the two agencies therefore halt the federal funding, as apparently required to do so by law? Because someone wrote a loophole into the moratorium.

        The moratorium specifically barred funding any gain-of-function research that increased the pathogenicity of the flu, MERS, or SARS viruses. But then a footnote on page 2 of the moratorium document states that “[a]n exception from the research pause may be obtained if the head of the USG funding agency determines that the research is urgently necessary to protect the public health or national security.”

        This seems to mean that either the director of the NIAID, Anthony Fauci, or the director of the NIH, Francis Collins, or maybe both, would have invoked the footnote in order to keep the money flowing to Shi’s gain-of-function research.”



        I’m thinking a guy like Fauci wouldn’t go for the bold-faced lie, which is what his exchange with Paul looks like; I’m thinking he’d go for something technically true but actually false — the letter but not the spirit.

        But the exchange with Paul sure looks like a bold faced lie if this article is correct.



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      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “BTW, EcoHealth Alliance was originially “Founded under the name Wildlife Preservation Trust International in 1971 by British naturalist, author, and television personality Gerald Durrell, it became The Wildlife Trust in 1999.[1] In the fall of 2010, the organization changed its name to EcoHealth Alliance.[2] The rebrand reflected a change in the organization’s focus, moving from solely a conservation nonprofit which focused mainly on the captive breeding of endangered species, to an environmental health organization with its foundation in conservation.[3]

      Scientists and collaborators from the organization coined the term ‘conservation medicine’ and held the first professional conservation medicine meeting to define the field in 1996.[4] They went on to organize and publish the first edited volume on the field through Oxford University Press in 2002—Conservation Medicine: Ecological Health in Practice.[5]

      In February 2008, EcoHealth Alliance published a paper in Nature entitled “Global trends in emerging infectious diseases” which featured the first rendition of a global disease hotspot map.[6] Using epidemiological, social, and environmental data from the past 50 years, the map outlined regions of the globe most at risk for emergent disease threats.”



      Read nearly all of Durrell’s books; his brother Lawrence also a writer (the Alexandria Quartet)

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