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    • #492336
      HassleCat
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      What’s Going To Happen To The Millions Of Electric Car Batteries After Their Lifespans End? (msn.com)

      Another article telling us electric vehicles will ruin the environment. This is from a website that promotes (of course) hot cars and all sorts of consumerist goods and gadgets.

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      game meat
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      But that’s completely true. There’s no use pretending electric cars aren’t going to come with a new set of potential problems along with their benefits. Like it or not, those old batteries are going to be an issue down the road.

      Sure, many are quick to provide reassurances by pointing out that they can all be recycled or repurposed, but will that actually happen? Maybe, but they also said they would be able to recycle plastic, but in reality more of it just gets burned than recycled.

      Tech shifts always promise a smooth transition with no down sides, but that’s rarely, if ever, the case.

      "He busted in, blessed be thy lord
      Who believe any mess they read up on a message board
      If so, I got bridges for the low low" ~ MF DOOM

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      Cold Mountain Trail
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      How do electric cars wreck the environment any slower than other kinds of cars?

      I doubt the environmental harm from gas v electric is very significant.

      If climate change is real, its a delusion that electric vehicles for the masses will have a significant effect on slowing it down.

      • #492353
        HassleCat
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        I guess we’re going to build 50 or 100 nuke plants and stop burning fossil fuel to make electricity. That certainly would reduce carbon emissions and air pollution. Of course, we could have better mass transit, etc. But, hey, we’re Americans and we gotta live large, ya know.

        • #492372
          Cold Mountain Trail
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          And nuclear is risk free and has no environmental consequences.

          That’s why the nuke industry gets exempted from any legal consequences for every power plant it builds.

          Plants which have less than a 50-year lifespan I believe.

          But the contamination and disposal problems are forever.

           

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      In San Francisco, I used Muni and BART a lot, because it went where I needed to go.

      In Portland, there’s MAX, for limited areas, if I walked a mile. In a half-mile walk, I could get a bus to downtown every half hour.

      So yes, better mass transit helps – but there’s no real improvement in most cities. We’re built for cars . . .

      • #492371
        HassleCat
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        At least when I attended Portland State. I lived near University of Portland and it was an easy bike ride to school. There were good bus choices for nasty weather. On nice days, I even kayaked from Swan Island to school. Ah, the good old days.

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          jbnw
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          The kayak would work nicely from Swan Island, but bike-friendly bridges are limited! Maybe the Hawthorne bridge would work —

          I’m currently working on Swan Island – I have no idea how I could get there in a reasonable time using public transit from around the zoo.

          • #492417
            HassleCat
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            When I kayaked, I used the little back bay at the north end of the floating dry dock. There is a Coast Guard facility there, so I guess that’s off limits in a post 911 world. There is an abandoned street that runs diagonally up the hill to Portland Boulevard, which I think is called Gladys McCoy now? I wonder if I could do any of that now without getting shot.

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