Four more years of Trump

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  • #299927

    N2Doc
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    Pretty much guaranteed now. And then if we are still here in 4 years, the Democrats will run Cuomo. If they can’t find somebody even more right wing.

    A sad day, our last great hope for any sort of pushback against neoliberalism at the national level gone. The darkness continues.

     

  • #299938

    xyzse
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    Well, unfortunately it was as expected.

    I remember saying I pretty much accepted that we will most likely get 8 years of this guy.  Particularly as the Democratic Party never really learned.

    Look at those idiots already going by saying “We don’t Need Them”.

    Again, they would rather have Trump than Bernie even before.  Since it does not CHANGE much for them.  They are not in Power, so even if Trump wins, they lose nothing.  If Bernie won, then they actually can’t use him to get money.

    With that in mind, now… If Trump wins, it does not CHANGE anything for us either.  The difference is, if Biden were to win, it is just a different set of apologists for crap that isn’t working.

     

    • #299949

      N2Doc
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      1. He will have the support of both parties to cut social security and medicare when the inevitable ‘debt crisis’ hits after all the coronavirus spending and subsequent depression
      2. He will be more likely to get us into a hot war with Iran, or invade Venezuela.
      3. He will appoint people more skilled at stealing public resources and allowing polluters free reign than Trump. Things will appear better to the average person but in reality the same crap will continue.
      • #299967

        xyzse
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        @n2doc

        I agree with you there.  That’s why I can’t vote for the guy at all.

        The Democratic Party has now wiped out their support on 2 generations at a minimum.

      • #299987

        djean111
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        @n2doc

        The Democratic Party may use the platform as toilet paper, but that is all they will use it for.

        Anyone who asks, or thinks they can order me, to vote for a Democrat who is not Bernie can fuck off.

        Nope. If Bernie is not on the ballot, Green it is.

      • #300000

        Carolina
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        I remember Nobama’s Grand Swindle all too well… when the Tea Party saved us seniors!!

        So, I would rather have Trump again, and force the Dims to push back (somewhat), rather than have Hildebiden in cahoots (as always) with the GOP. I live in the fucking ruby red state (via marriage) that resurrected Biden’s campaign. He will lose here handily, so go eat shit Clyburn!  I truly hope the Dims get their asses handed to them on a platter in the Rust Belt and beyond. I look forward to the GOP digging out all of Biden’s baggage non-stop and hurling it at him like shit… it will stick. I will relish the airing of all the videos showing Joe on Anita Hill, NAFTA, the IWR, cutting SS and Medicare, assaulting Tara Reade, and much more!

        Hell hath no fury like a progressive scorned TWICE!

    • #300046

      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “If Trump wins, it does not CHANGE anything for us either”

      2nd terms for evil typically more evil.

  • #299943

    MissDeeds
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    I’m out. This country is (please excuse the bad language) FUBAR.

  • #299950

    Fasttense
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    Just look at the senile old coot. Trump will pummel him and Biden will look even more pathetic, if that is possible.

    The Democratic party is determined to lose what would have been a very easy win. They just love them some GOP president.

    Enjoy your inevitable death from pneumonia as we all go vote in November. Thanks dancing Supremes for going along with the oligarchy. I knew we could count on you to be the sycophantic boobs you always are.

  • #299976

    ThouArtThat
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    @n2doc

    Hi n2doc,

    Sad to see.

    Clearly expected.

    Terminal decline will now beset America as the plutocrats finish off the flopping corpse.

    Good night and Good luck.

    TAT

    "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
    - John F. Kennedy

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    - George Orwell

    "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
    Rather than truth as the authority."
    - Gerald Massey

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  • #299981

    incognito
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    be reformed from the inside?

    He didn’t learn the lesson in 2016, so I wonder if TWO stolen elections opens his eyes? 

    Stupid, stupid, stupid stupid move running within that corrupt party again.

    And even more stupid for not fighting and going for the jugular.

  • #299983

    HassleCat
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    When Mr. Electable sinks like a stone, Bernie will be blamed. Bernie didn’t dropout soon enough. Bernie criticized Biden. Bernie didn’t campaign energetically enough for Biden. Bernie is a socialist. Bernie wears glasses.

    • #299988

      djean111
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      Those who blame Bernie are not worth any regard at all.  Their “blame” is worthless.

      Anyone who asks, or thinks they can order me, to vote for a Democrat who is not Bernie can fuck off.

      Nope. If Bernie is not on the ballot, Green it is.

    • #299993

      N2Doc
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      @hasslecat – All blaming Bernie does is avoid learning the hard lessons. The DNC and Democratic ‘leadership’ are very good at this, having been taught by the master of avoiding blame herself, Hillary. Next go around will be no different. Their only hope of victory is that things get so bad, right at election time, that people will vote D simply because Trump has run things into the ground so much. Kind of like 2008, except the Dems don’t even bother to lie about being Republicans any more. Their motto is ‘Don’t like it? Vote for the other Guy!’

  • #299992

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    Leave it to the Democrats to nominate an almost certain loser, a man ineffectually hiding in his basement and displaying zero leadership during the present crisis. I’ll be paying close attention to the VP because if Biden keels over or is forced out before November, that’s who the Democrats will be shoving down our throats. Anyone else think he’ll break the promise to install a woman and go with Cuomo? The stupid hurts.

    • #300002

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      There are no Vichy Dem women who are anything near progressive.  I would not vote for Gabbard, either.  So I don’t care about Biden’s promise on anything at all.  Will not vote for his replacement, if that happens.  That train has left the station, that ship has sailed ’round the bend.  As has, it seems, Biden’s mental facilities.  He is awake enough to say no M4A and assure Wall Street he will continue the Democratic Party tradition of kissing their asses, though.

      @fedup

      Anyone who asks, or thinks they can order me, to vote for a Democrat who is not Bernie can fuck off.

      Nope. If Bernie is not on the ballot, Green it is.

  • #299994

    Snort McDork
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    He/they will use the poor working slobs with no healthcare, as toilet paper.

    I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

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  • #300001

    MizzGrizz
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    And Bernie never had a chance against this stinking system.

    They can hold their little farce  every four years all they like.None of it will matter.

  • #300018

    jerry611
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    DNC actually thinks they are now uniting the party.

    LOL!

  • #300025

    ravensong
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    will step in and soon take measures to prevent four more years Trump, who is her primary enemy, and the primary enemy of life on this planet.

    “A lie doesn't become truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good, just because it's accepted by a majority.” ~ Booker T. Washington

    "When a society regrets economic loss more than loss of life, it doesn't need a virus....it is already sick."
    ~ Unknown

  • #300029

    salemcourt
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    Biden is pleading with us Bernie Bros to support him- LOL!

    • #300103

      Haikugal
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      They know we’ll never vote for him…ever.

       

    • #300116

      incognito
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      No Corrupt Politician from this corrupt Two Party system will ever get my vote.

      I’m never voting again.

      I’m not playing their game anymore. They can take their evoting machines and shove them up their arses.

  • #300034

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    The Dems think that by sitting back and allowing Trump to totally blow the handling of this pandemic, people will rush to vote for the Dem candidate. They have been just as complacent in this as Trump as they sit silent.

    It’s  going to backfire badly on them. I will vote green or write in Bernie.

    The gall of Warren thanking Bernie on twitter. It’s good to see her getting totally dragged. We’ll see who the DNC really wants for president as Biden chooses his VP.  I am so disappointed right now.

  • #300039

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  • #300056

    B Calm
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    thinking that will unite both wings of the Democratic party.  Bwhaha!

    • #300082

      FedUp
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      You can fool some of the people some of the time. But I would be willing to bet he’ll go with Cuomo or Her. The worse the better as far as the DNC is concerned.

    • #300468

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      If she runs as VP, the Repukes get another Senate seat.

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  • #300069

    Bernie 4 2020
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    I posted a lot of what is about to be reposted here a few weeks ago.

    As one of the biggest fans of Bernie Sanders, I am officially done with politics as of today. Today is a sad, sad, day for myself, and our democracy. The numbers are in.  It now appears Byedone has a +90% chance of beating Bernie after 4 weeks of voting.

    As a result, I have determined that the outcome of this planet, and our future as Americans, are in grave danger.  God bless Bernie for all he has done for all of us. No more M4A, Tuition free college, Green deal. The list of progressive ideas we will lose goes on and on. Throw it all in the shitter for now. Corporate socialism has won again. They bought our country. Predictions? We will end up with income inequality so grossly tilted, you will never get it back in balance again. The fact that the democrats will put forward the only “True democrat?”(bullshit), a senile politician, with signs of dementia, against Chump in the final round, is insane.  Chump already has a book full of gaffes and stupidity to use against poor Joe. Joe doesn’t have a prayer of winning, and has no idea what’s coming.

    Sadly, Biden will be the party’s choice, and will result in 4 more years of Chump.  And then, probably Donny Jr. after that. Now that’s really sad. Today was a pivoting point in American history. And democracy lost. It will be the beginning of the end for many people, that had hope in our political system. The rich will win again. Expect the world’s population to actually start to decrease in the future. Life expectancy will go down. More and more people will be homeless, especially seniors. Our democracy will turn into an autocracy, run by oligarchs. I would not be surprised to see our social programs disappear in the next decade.  God help us, our kids, and grand kids.

    If by some chance Biden does beat Chump, then it will be status quo for the next 4 years. It’ll be 2008 all over again. Joe may even try to attempt to fix the ACA, like it can be done? Everyone knows you can’t dictate to the insurance companies, and Joe’s “unknown” proposals will die in Congress.  Yeah, let’s go back 12 years. FAILURE!!!

    Under Chump, what will happen as for the rule of law? The SC will then be 5-2, in favor of the GOP. We will NEVER win a liberal point of view for many decades to come.

    Time will tell how really bad of a “total fuckup up”  this will be by not electing Bernie. I will constantly think, as long as I live on this earth, “If only we would have chosen Bernie,,,,,,,”  I think about it today regarding 2016.

    The democrats have chosen party over their own best interests again. As a result, failure is obvious. Policies apparently don’t matter any more, do they? The stupidity is so astounding and history will be repeated.

    Wait, what is the documented definition of insanity, by Albert Einstein? “Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result”. See a pattern here?

    I’m done.  Hey, I’m 65 and retired. I may be lucky if I can make it another 10-15 years. After today, I just don’t give a shit anymore. This whole Bernie thing has done it for me. It’s pretty obvious how this will end up.  Perot tried. He failed. If Bernie couldn’t do it, no one can. Apparently, there are just too many idiotic people in this country that will ALWAYS vote against their best interest. The rest are far right pricks, that think they are the privileged ones.

    It’s quite obvious everything is rigged. Democracy will soon be a thing of the past.

    America is a plutocracy. It’s been heading there for years. The elites pick our candidates and then they watch us fight over the limited options they allow the voters. It’s 2016 all over again. It’s expected. The DNC has all the power to pick whoever they want anyway. Super delegates anyone? Yeah, that’s real democracy, huh?

    MSM? The so-called “journalists” today….are a total disgrace. They have destroyed their profession with their blatant biases. They don’t report news. They pick sides! And they ALWAYS pick the sides of the elites. The media will always favor the establishment. The elites, the ones with all the money, pays the paychecks of MSM. When Sanders was winning, they acted like it was the apocalypse. When Biden won a few states, they were so happy they jump up and down peeing themselves on the airwaves. Yet they want to claim they are unbiased? Fair and balanced? America’s most trusted news source?  It’s disgusting how they cover it all up and lie.

    Am I angry and sad? You betcha I am. As a result, no one in my family will vote for Biden in November, just to prove a point. Millions will follow, count on it. This will assure Biden will lose. It will be the  first time (not to vote) for many of us. I tried to help the kiddies, but failed. But I am only 1 vote.

    You just can’t beat stupid. And the Lord now knows how many stupid people there are in this country right now.  They’re everywhere.  Yeah, I’ll get over it. We all will get over it, eventually.

    Ironically, the powers that be, ON BOTH SIDES, want us to get sick and die(No healthcare). They want us to remain stupid(No free college). They want us to drink shitty water. Oh yeah, and let’s continue to privatize prisons, and keep MJ minor infractions in jail…  And again, the list  goes on and on.  It’s really amazing the stupidity here, and how ignorant the human race really is.

    My biggest concern is that we will NEVER know what the first words of our constitution REALLY means.  “WE THE PEOPLE”……. Just when in the hell are we going to start thinking that way?

    It appears, NEVER!!!.  The fucking corporations win AGAIN.

    Meanwhile, Chump, the mighty moron, who cut major funding to the CDC in 2018 and ignored all warnings, is failing big time and taking no responsibility.  Now that we desperately need the CDC, we as a country are unprepared for the pandemic.  And of course, Chump does not take any responsibility for his ignorance. The economy is heading in the toilet. Some reporters are saying unemployment will reach 35%…….  WTF!!!

    Farmer bailouts and suicides? Abolishment of collective bargaining rights of civilian labor unions representing some 750,000 workers? We CANNOT afford 4 more years of this ignorance and stupidity.

    Blame the establishment dems for putting real thick blinders on, and claiming ignorance. I will not be a part of this in any way.  I can only hope that there will be someone to take over for Bernie in 4 years.  Maybe I’ll show up again, then.

    If you think the past 4 years was hell, wait til the next 4. God Bless us all.

    In the meantime, I will be sitting back, watching the shit show that is about to occur.

    Rant over.  So I am going to take my ball and go home. I just can’t do this anymore.

    Good night, Good luck, and farewell.

    It has been a great trip.   Love ya all.

    I'm done, It's over for now. It was nice meeting all the cool people here.

    • #300142

      MizzGrizz
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      I’m disgusted too.

      My husband pointed out that establishment Dems are not so much in denial as wanting to preserve their bourgeois perks and privileges.Which they couldn’t have done with Bernie.The media touting Biden so much is an example.

  • #300073

    David the Gnome
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    Or Trump, or any of the many who continue to lie to and betray us.  Maybe the green party, if they have a candidate that represents the interests of the common good. Maybe.

    They will lose even so – and Trump is now all but certain to get another four years.

  • #300118

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    Can’t believe this is happening…it is like the last little ray of light just blinked out.

    They actually expect people to vote for the “nothing will fundamentally change” guy. Trump is going to eviscerate Ol’ Joe, on his record and the Trump campaign will outflank Biden on the left with UBI & M4A. And as is Trump’s superpower, he will somehow mange to project his massive incompetence onto Biden.

    If Trump is for M4A and UBI while Biden is not…holy shit what a Hobson’s Choice!

    Slavery was the legal fiction that people can be property.
    Corporatism is the legal fiction that property can be people.

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  • #300195

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    I agree with Ted Rall that it’s time for a new progressive party. The democrat party is just as much the enemy as the republican party. Fuck trying to change it from within. Why would I want to be allied with these corrupt corporate whores, who are nothing more than chickenshit republicans anyway? We have the people to support it, so what do we have to lose anymore?

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  • #300307

    Piperay
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    it out, no way in hell will I vote for crooked Joe! 👎 🤢 🤮

  • #300803

    Bernice Ta
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    I hate to think there really were so many stupid people voting. My one aunt tells Mama that Trump has done so much good during the virus stuff. What? Blind, dumb, I don’t know. There’s apparently no way to fix it.

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