Fox News Cuts Away From Senate Trial as Shocking Footage Emerges

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    • #402527
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      Even the fiercely pro-Trump One America Network aired Trump’s trial. Fox, however, decided to run segments on stories including Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban’s decision to forego the national anthem at his NBA team’s home games, and the viral video of a Texas attorney’s “I’m not a cat” Zoom courtroom filter fail.

      Fox’s decision to cut away from the trial was lambasted as “fucking shameful…”

      What Fox didn’t show was all of the dramatic testimony from House impeachment manager Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.), who introduced new video evidence showing lawmakers narrowly escaping the violent mob of Trump supporters as they overran the Capitol, as well as additional footage—some of it previously unreleased—of the MAGA mob breaking into the building and violently attacking police officers.

      https://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/02/10/shameful-fox-news-cuts-away-senate-trial-shocking-footage-emerges

    • #402556
      salemcourt
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      had less propaganda to deal with.

    • #402591
      Pam2
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      I don’t even know what that footage has to do with the case. We all know a riot occurred, they are supposed to be proving that Trump incited it aren’t they?

       

      • #402595
        game meat
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        Yes, but an impeachment trial is outside the criminal justice system. They don’t have to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proof is whatever each individual senator decides it should be in an impeachment trial. “March to the capital and fight like hell” can be interpreted different ways, and is almost certainly protected speech based on the precedent set by earlier decisions, which is probably why they didn’t press criminal charges on the specific charge of inciting a riot. If/when Trump gets charged for anything in a criminal court, it won’t be that.

        The whole trial is performative. The outcome is already known: there will not be enough republicans who will vote to convict Trump. Hell, the congressional republicans aren’t even the intended audience; the public is the intended audience. The constant playing of the footage is mostly designed to trigger an emotional reaction.

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        Cold Mountain Trail
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        That footage has to do with how real the risks to legislators’ safety were.  Which is part of the case the managers are making.  An insurrection, not a ‘protest’.

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      …”insurrection” production produced: terrifying, split-screen video of how close TPTB came to having actual lawmakers as martyrs in this shartshow! Not just volunteers and police officers, but elected officials.

      The point of this is to cleave the country in half while TPTB harvest whatever hasn’t already been asset-stripped from the good old US of A!

      • #402660
        Cold Mountain Trail
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        The country is already cleaved in half, & it isn’t gonna come back together if this is just swept under the rug.

        In fact, the country has *always* been cleaved in half, since Nixon or Kennedy or even before.

        I still remember the 1st Nixon election, a young girl in his crowd with a “Bring us Together” sign.

        What would actually bring it together is help for all the people and the asshole 1%ers to hold their theft for a while.

        Good luck with that.

        • #402693
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          I would not count myself as being in any sort of league with, say, Free Republic OR SV.  Both unsavory.  The Vichy Dems are not going to help all the people any more than the GOP is, so, as you say, good luck with that, to all those who maunder on about unity and whatever other bullshit they call it.  The closest we will ever  come to unity, IMO, is when we are all fucked over at the same time, but people do cling to their tatty old political identities.  Which is handy for, and quite deliberately implemented and enforced by,  those bipartisan fucks in charge.

          America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

          • #402696
            Cold Mountain Trail
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            Everything is too simplistic for human beings.

            But you know what is meant.

            People are divided politically and in other ways, and some are at each others throats.

            The reasons and the rest are pretty debatable, but that surface appearance I think most agree with.

            I should have thrown in the history of impeachment in modern times: Nixon R (resigned before process initiated),  Clinton D (majority to acquit), Trump R (majority to acquit), and Trump R again, to be determined.

            Each has been related to the next IMHO.  Long grudge match.

             

             

    • #402638
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      Anybody who wants to watch that meaningless theater has plenty of other options.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #402640
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      No,  pretty much the entire country has not yet understood that Congress and the president are really there to do as little as possible for us, doing nothing for us is what is preferred, and to enrich Wall Street and the MIC.   The Democratic Party does not even bother to drag out their ratty old platform any more.  “Help the peasants as little as possible, strive for no real help at all” is the platform now.  This trial is ridiculous theater.  Likely Hillary and her minions are eating it up, though, revenge and all that.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

    • #402649
      3fingerbrown
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      Someone cut away from the blanket overcoverage. I can’t even watch Jeopardy!

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #402701
      FedUp
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      It’s like a bad movie where the ending is known in the first five minutes. Big waste of time when the country is in serious deep shit. Trump could have marched with his army down to the Capitol and participated in the storming of the building, and the Repukes still wouldn’t convict him. Now, how about those $2000 checks that were promised?

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      Given the status of the courts’ and Pence’s decisions, to continue to incite the crowd at that point in time and at that particular place could have had only one purpose: to disrupt the Constitutionally-prescribed election procedure – which, had they succeeded, with or without violence, would have thrown the country into unimaginable chaos.  So, quite apart from whether he meant “fight” literally, or whether any actual violence might or might not have occurred, that chaos was a completely foreseeable possibility.

      So to put it broadly, Trump was either criminal, if he intended such a result, or if he really didn’t think things through or care about what might happen if the proceedings were disrupted, criminally negligent.

      If we don’t draw a clear line here, I can’t see where else we could draw it that wouldn’t be too late.

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

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