God help us, Trump is right about something
- Total Posts: 8,310
by LUCIAN K. TRUSCOTT IV
Let’s see if we can figure out what the Trump strategy on Syria is. During his campaign for president, Trump’s strategy was to get the hell out of Syria, along with other unnecessary overseas military commitments, because we had neglected to “take the oil”; which was before April, 2017 when the plan was to send 59 Tomahawk missiles into an abandoned Syrian airfield to “punish” the regime of Bashar al-Assad for using chemical munitions on its own people in Idlib Province; which was before March, 2018, when it was to bring American troops home from Syria when the battle against ISIS was won; which was before September, 2018, when it was that U.S. troops would “stay in Syria pending an overall settlement to the Syrian war and with a new mission: to act as a bulwark against Iran’s expanding influence,” according to the Washington Post; which was before December, 2018, when he declared in a video that “We have won against ISIS. Our boys, our young women, our men — they’re all coming back, and they’re coming back now!”; which was before last Sunday, when National Security Adviser John Bolton announced in Israel that 2,000 U.S. troops would remain in Syria until Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan promised not to attack our Kurdish allies fighting ISIS in Syria; which was before Monday, when Trump tweeted, “We will be leaving at a proper pace while at the same time continuing to fight ISIS and doing all else that is prudent and necessary!”; which was before yesterday, when Erdogan canceled a scheduled meeting with Bolton and told the Turkish parliament, “It is not possible for us to swallow the message Bolton gave from Israel.”
So we’re pulling out of Syria, or we aren’t, or maybe we will sometime in the future, or maybe not depending on what the ISIS guys do, or something anyway. Got that?
Well, having dealt with Syria, Trump wasn’t finished. Two days after he tweeted his order to pull U.S. troops out of Syria, he announced that he will be drawing down American forces in Afghanistan by half, sending as many as 7,000 troops home.
National Security Adviser Bolton and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo are currently jetting around Israel, and Jordan, and Egypt and Turkey on a magical mystery tour trying to “reassure” allies that the Trump strategy for Syria and the rest of the Middle East is a “coherent” one, and that they’ve got nothing to worry about.
January 12, 2019 at 12:34 PM #11503Ohio BarbarianModerator
- Total Posts: 17,249
Trump isn’t right about anything until he actually does something right. Thus far, the only really positive thing he has actually done is to withdraw from the Trans-Pacific Partnership. I give him credit for that, and nothing else.
So far, according to independent journalists a total of about 150 American troops have actually withdrawn from Syria, by going to Iraq. That’s it. With Trump, it is foolish to start counting chickens until they are hatched and walking about on their own.
It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs
Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman
January 12, 2019 at 12:38 PM #11505OzoneTomMember
- Total Posts: 179
Which was before:
Scores of ground troops are headed toward Syria to help move troops out, and a group of naval vessels headed by the amphibious assault ship USS Kearsarge is headed to the region to back up troops at the vulnerable moment they are leaving the country, the officials said. The Kearsarge carries hundreds of Marines, helicopters and other aircraft.
“Nothing has changed,” one defense official said. “We don’t take orders from Bolton.”
Sorry WSJ so paywalled:
January 12, 2019 at 2:39 PM #11561bazukhovParticipant
- Total Posts: 2,865
Does “Vietnamization” have a familiar ring? How did that work out?
Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.