Good job blowing up any momentum in the climate change debate!!

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  • #161958

    jerry611
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    Well, those few days of climate debate was nice. We all actually thought we could make a little progress and raise a little awareness. At least start having a conversation.

    But now the air is all out of the balloon. With this impeachment nonsense back in full swing, any momentum that was trying to be built with the UN climate summit and the walkout by the children is now in the garbage with yesterday’s headlines. Now the news cycle will be dominated by a push by Democrats for an impeachment that WILL fail and more than likely will backfire.

    Every time we try to get some talk and debate and discussion going about issues and problems facing this country and this world, we got to nuke it and keep going back to this bulls*** impeachment debate. I think it’s also a sign of desperation. And I think we risk going into 2020 without any central issues to focus on and build on and rally around.

    If I were the GOP, I’d be salivating right now. Trump needs a divided and polarized population to be re-elected. That’s the environment he thrives in. And he’s going to have that. No question.

  • #161961

    ThouArtThat
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    @jerry611

    Hi jerry,

    Yep all good observations – too little too late.  My take is that the impeachment is designed to deflect attention from Biden and his son so he can remain the polling front runner.  Else, Biden’s complicity in similar situations would expose and weaken him allowing Bernie to gain more strength.  The 1% will do anything within their powers to keep Bernie from ever receiving the democratic party nomination.

    TAT

    "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
    Rather than truth as the authority."
    - Gerald Massey

    "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
    - Jiddu Krishnamurti

    “Wisdom tells me I am nothing.  Love tells me I am everything. And between the two my life flows."
    - Nisargadatta Maharaj

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      incognito
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      ++++++A Gazillion!

      My sentiments exactly.

      The Dem Party is damn stupid. THIS idiotic move of theirs has got to take the cake.

      Not only is impeachment impossible because the Senate will never impeach Trump, but because he won’t be impeached, Trump will now have the fodder to use against the Dem nominee in the GE.

      Now, we will have ENDLESS 24/7 impeachment coverage by our OCD corrupt corporate owned MSM propaganda networks and the climate change debate and the primary election takes a backseat. Bernie? Who’s Bernie? A climate catastrophe is coming? What climate catastrophe?

      The focus should have remained on Joe Biden’s family corruption. Wait .. we’ll just change the subject!

      Thank the Goddesses Bernie has his YouTube channel and he has most of the  Progressive YouTube channels that support him. He will have to use alternative Media to get his message out in the next year. The same goes for the climate change activists. They’re going to have to do an end run around the Corrupt Corporate owned MSM propaganda networks to be heard.

      I am just LIVID at the stupidity of such a move by the Dem party. They never ceases to amaze with their incompetence. 

       

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      Ohio Barbarian
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      @thouartthat If the Democrats, or you, think that an impeachment inquiry will let the Bidens skate away from their own corruption scot-free I think you are completely mistaken. If anything, it will give focus much more scrutiny on them and can’t help but hurt Joe Biden’s primary chances. It’s already in Reuters, and Trump won’t let it go away.

      Every once in awhile even Trump serves a useful purpose.

      We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

      With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

      • #162410

        ThouArtThat
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        Hi ob,

        That the Biden’s transgressions have been exposed is not in doubt.  That said, the Oligarch controlled media will paint those transgressions as misunderstood compared to Trump’s shenanigans even if both are in practice equal.  How that sits with the public remains to be seen.  In the end it is all part of the Oligarch play book to sow Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt (FUD) such that a confused public makes decisions in line with Oligarch objectives.  And that objective is to insure anyone but Bernie sits in the White House.

        TAT

        "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
        Rather than truth as the authority."
        - Gerald Massey

        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
        - Jiddu Krishnamurti

        “Wisdom tells me I am nothing.  Love tells me I am everything. And between the two my life flows."
        - Nisargadatta Maharaj

        • #162502

          Ohio Barbarian
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          @thouartthat True. I just think the influence of the corporate media has diminished considerably over the last few years simply because far fewer people, only a minority now, even watch it anymore. They lost a LOT of credibility by proclaiming Hillary as The Inevitable One. Now they’re doing the same with Biden, though they may switch to Warren in their quest for Anybody But Bernie.

          In the end, it will all come down to organization at the grassroots level and millennial voter turnout, and few millennials give a shit about what the M$M has to say.

          We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt

          With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

  • #161964

    Zopilote
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    Good observations.

    When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.
    - Sinclair Lewis

    Dude, it started coming in 1981 - Zopilote

  • #162028

    Punxsutawney
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    Who said it, “No matter how cynical I am, it never seems to be enough“? Well I certainly feel that way right now.

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      Satan
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      Shit, I invented cynicism, and I’m not even sure I’m cynical enough for these times.

      I didn't refuse to vote for Hillary Clinton because any goddamned Russian told me to. I refused to vote for her because she is a warmongering, election stealing, Goldman Sachs fellating, Republican WHORE. No offense to sex workers.

      • #162395

        ThouArtThat
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        Hi satan,

        Chuckles – tough times even for the devil – seems we will all have to up our game.

        TAT

        "They must find it difficult ... Those who have taken authority as the truth,
        Rather than truth as the authority."
        - Gerald Massey

        "It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
        - Jiddu Krishnamurti

        “Wisdom tells me I am nothing.  Love tells me I am everything. And between the two my life flows."
        - Nisargadatta Maharaj

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    RufusTFirefly
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    @punxsutawney

    I believe the quote is “No matter how cynical you become, it’s never enough to keep up,” and it was penned by Lily Tomlin’s wife, the playwright, Jane Wagner.

  • #162093

    Yanath
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    Hammer, meet Nail Head.

  • #162276

    emme
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    Agree with everyone above.  Poke around the web, and you will find people already predicting Trump will win in 2020 (and maybe by a wider margin  than 2016) because the Dems keeping giving him ammo for  shooting them down. The ones I’ve seen say this don’t like  nor support Trump, just pointing out what to them is obvious. I’ve decided Trump is what the Vichy Dems want.  He is so bad, they think he makes them look good.  They get to   be the virtuous opposition, fighting the good fight;  Pelosi gets lots of air time, and opportunity to show off her latest face lift and hair coloring job.  They are employed by the same oligarchs to keep us entertained, or at least distracted.

    Meanwhile, little to nothing gets done to help the majority.

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    djean111
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    And that’s ALL the Democrats  accomplished – deliberately –  since 2016 – Russia!  Trump! and a circle-jerk whilst chanting Impeach!!!!!!

    And IMO Trump has not done anything that the DNC is actually unhappy with, except he has not started any wars.  But they are working on that.

     

    I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.

    Bernie's ISSUES or Bust!

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    incognito
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    @emme

    There’s no doubt in my mind the corrupt, useless Dem party would rather have Trump in office than a President Bernard Sanders.

    Trump lines their pockets with endless amounts of money and Bernie is going to stop that gravy train. They aren’t fooling anyone.

  • #162385

    carrotguy
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    fool us once

    don’t get fooled again

    • #162421

      Haikugal
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      The Dirty Fucking Hippies Were Right!

      We do what we can, what we must and we hope for the best while expecting nothing.~ Me

  • #162472

    N2Doc
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    You can blame the Democrats for everything, but did you really think the ‘Climate Strike’ was going to change anything? Ask the pussy hat wearers who marched back in 2017, the OWS folks, the anti-Iraq-war marchers just how much things changed for them before you answer.

  • #162561

    ravensong
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    Trump is just about the worst thing that can happen to the planet, as far as being a destructive energy.

    As a lifetime radical environmentalist, I applaud any action that hinders Trump, and fervently hope Trump goes to prison, where the amount of evil he can do to everyone, and everything, is quarantined and limited.

     

     

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