Green Party candidate is ordered off Pennsylvania ballots

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    • #359521
      PADemD
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      The Green Party’s candidate for president did not strictly follow procedures for getting on Pennsylvania’s ballot in the November election and cannot appear on it, the state Supreme Court ruled Thursday, delivering a win for Democrats as Joe Biden tries to capture the battleground state’s electoral votes.

      The court, with a 5-2 Democratic majority, reversed the ruling by a Republican judge in a lower court on the candidacy of Green Party presidential candidate Howie Hawkins.

      Democrats have long gone to court to keep Green Party candidates off the ballot, worried that they will siphon otherwise liberal voters in close contests against Republicans in the politically divided state.

      In this case, Democrats targeted what they said were disqualifying irregularities in how Green Party candidates for president and vice president filed affidavits that accompany paperwork to get on the ballot.

       

      https://www.lehighvalleylive.com/elections/2020/09/green-party-candidate-is-ordered-off-pennsylvania-ballots.html

    • #359523
      Ohio Barbarian
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      They don’t believe in democracy.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #359525
      mmonk
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      They can blame Russians again if it will make them feel better

      Fear not the path of Truth for the lack of People walking on it. - RFK

    • #359527
      djean111
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      Now working on my son.

      Here is hoping that folks in Pennsylvania who would have voted Green will either stay home, leave the presidential choice blank, or write in someone.  The Democratic Party is not owed those votes.  “Democracy”.  The Democratic Party likely laughs hysterically at how inappropriate their name is.  NOTHING to do with Democracy.  Makes a joke of it.

       

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      Everything I post is just my opinion, and, honestly, I would love to be wrong.

    • #359531
      gordyfl
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      Or is this just a Democratic Party thing?

      The Un-Democratic Party.

    • #359534
      MikeW285
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      I wonder if the Dims think pulling the Green party off the ballot in WI. and PA. et al will then induce some Independents or Greens vote Dem because, “where else are they gonna go?”. Probably will have the opposite effect –   true progressives / greens will just stay home -hurting Joementia’s chances.  The Democrats really Are that stupid.

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      a little weird
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      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      No one’s platform is better THAN the Greens, but that apparently is not a good reason, according to the HIGHLY corrupt Democratic machine in this fucking Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

      It’s like it’s on purpose…. Oh, hell it IS on purpose, let’s not kid ourselves.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #359554
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      Fuck all… Let’s get a real third party with the platform matching that brought to Mr. & Mrs. America by Bernie Sanders.

      Movement for the People’s Party…. Get involved in 2021 to get 50 state ballot access

      MPP National Call from yesterday/YouTube

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #359564
      mmonk
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      You don’t think this will happen to you when your candidates run? You should stand with solidarity with the Greens. That is, unless you stick with Democrats and get eradicated by their establishment.

      Fear not the path of Truth for the lack of People walking on it. - RFK

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      mrdmk
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      Here is the side effect of this ruling which is, The Green Party can no longer call for a recount. This was an embarrassment to her highness because an actual recount may have put Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump. What this also means is, Election Reform is out because of irregularities. Keeping the status quo.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

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      disqualifying irregularities in how Green Party candidates for president and vice president filed affidavits that accompany paperwork to get on the ballot

      We need to now exactly what these “irregularities” were. It reminds me of old contests where “no purchase is necessary”.

      Just mail a 3″x5″ index card with your full name and address in hand-printed block letters (all capitals) in blue ink, and sign the back of the card in black ink. On the backside of the mailing envelope write in cursive letters with green ink. Attention: Prize Division. Include in the mailing envelope a first-class stamped blue return envelope with type-written return address. Entry must be post-marked after February 27th and prior to February 29th 2021. One entry per household. Void where prohibited.

      Guess what happens if you deviate in any way from that. Trash. This index card does not measure exactly 3″x5″. Trash. Signed the back in blue ink. Trash.

      Is it because the states rules are too stringent for 3rd parties to get on the ballot? Is it that the Green party has no one competent enough to follow such rules? Are the rules applied to all parties equally?

    • #359619
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      @srobert In Wisconsin, it was because the Green VP candidate moved while the petitioning was going on and filed her change of address with the elections board. The Democrats wanted to invalidate most of the signatures because those forms had the old address on them. That’s it.

      How ridiculous is that? Yet it flew. It was something else in other states. The Democrats just throw a bunch of shit against the judicial wall and see what sticks. That’s all this is.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

      • #359631
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        Ah so, the equivalent of wrong ink color, signature invalid.

        In a democratic republic, I’d imagine major parties would not be recognized by government as having any special status, any more than any religious denomination is. Democrats, Republicans, would have to acquire signatures for a candidate the same as any other party. The state would not conduct primary elections for the parties. Candidates’ party affiliations would not be printed on the ballots, and voter registration would not register party affiliation. Individuals would be free to vote multiple times by voting in each of the primaries conducted by each party in a process not regulated by government. And in the general election, which would be strictly regulated and conducted by government, the winner would be determined through ranked choice voting.

        If we lived in an actual democratic republic, that is.

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      Babel 17
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      Democratic party elites consider themself nobility, with inherited privileges that they of course should defend. The President is the monarch, and anoints them for all their grifts. Trump is the Pretender King who deserves whatever can be done to him, and they are the loyalists to the true monarchy, the one that Hillary Clinton was cheated out of.

      Biden would be like a King who is so young/mentally impaired that they require a Regency. Once installed, The Forever War can be ratcheted up to full speed so as to compensate for all the lost earnings of the last few years. Syria isn’t going to destroy itself on its own.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regency_era

      • #359657
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        it’s part of a longtime condescension toward “Old Europe”: they’re effetes, degenerates, militarists, inbred nobility, amiable but deracinated crowned heads; their governments are worthwhile only insofar as they approach the Jeffersonian ideal; you can see this from James K. Polk to Mark Twain and Harry Harrison

        so naturally when we get rich folk, they compare themselves to their rich: those guys inherit their wealth and create unfair systems of inheritance and privilege, ours earn it, then rightfully pass it on as you’re allowed to do with private property

        ropelines, rigged votes, and policies that favor the ass-slappingly wealthy? it’s what the people vote for, isn’t it? and if they don’t like it they don’t vote for us, or at all; so what’s so “undemocratic” about that?

        it’s like how we have cults of personality that’d make the god-kings of old uneasy; five years later party members are like “who?”

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