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    Harper's Magazine Cover: I can see no good coming from this

    “Like many Americans, I arrived at the office on November 9 with what felt like a terminal hangover. This wasn’t the result of too much liquor—a definite temptation the night before, as Hillary Clinton’s supposedly impregnable margin melted away and the anchors on MSNBC and CNN developed a fresh set of worry lines. No, this was another sort of hangover: a stunned attempt to absorb a political toxin, compared to which absinthe (or, hell, gasoline) was mere mother’s milk. Trump had won. This childish monster of self-regard would be moving into the White House, possibly with the bronze bust of his own head that decorated his Atlanta campaign office. The weeks since his victory have offered little in the way of reassurance. His farcical Cabinet appointments, his flagrant cronyism, his refusal to divest himself of his business empire—which, as the constitutional scholar Lawrence Tribe has pointed out, makes him a virtual “emoluments magnet”—are all deeply discouraging.

    Hence our January cover, a likeness of the pouting president behind bars. Trump has surely bent or broken the law with sufficient frequency to merit some quality time in stir: the Trump University litigation alone would probably have earned him a fraud conviction if he hadn’t settled. But the cover can be taken figuratively, too, as an image of containment. Whatever the Russians or the rebellious electors do, Trump is likely to occupy the Oval Office. Damage control will be a necessity for the next four years. So will resistance, in all its many-splendored forms—an argument made in my own Editor’s Notebook and in Rebecca Solnit’s meditation on commemorative statuary. Discussing the proliferation of Trump piñatas during his campaign, she affirms the symbolic value of smashing a papier-mâché POTUS: “Such acts testify to people’s ability to make—and break—their own monuments, to write their own history under the most repressive conditions.”


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    • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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      1. has hillary not broken the law too?

      • em77 (2505 posts)
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        3. Many.

      • Betty Karlson (4325 posts)
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        6. She's above it. Or claims to be.

        "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
      • Sadie (3069 posts)
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        27. You mean with a cloth or something?

        Or bleachbit?  She broke many laws along the way,  Bernie caught her with campaign finance laws, FOIA, Clinton Foundation slush fund and pay to play, but NO one in the media would hold her accountable.  So, yes she is known as the one who is “above the law” and history shows that it’s roots run deep beginning in Little Rock.



          Wake up, peeps, their kids go to Harvard and Yale; your kids go to Iraq & Afghanistan.   
    • roguevalley (2345 posts)
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      2. Watch Pence when he's with Trump. He knows Trump will be impeached and

      he’s waiting with great serenity to become President. Of course, there will be riots when it happens. I’m making a prediction. Trump will begin to be impeached or the run up will begin by March.  I have to tell you. Not hearing about HRC or her squawky voice is heaven.

      Be love. Be light. Fear is the only darkness. Love is the only light.
      • Gallagher (533 posts)
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        4. Pence was the Governor here in Indiana…

        I fear what he might do even more than Trump, but at least he knows how to behave in public.

        • Sherman A1 (707 posts)
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          14. I don't think it will be too much of an issue

          Pence, Ryan and McConnell will be running (and ruining) things while Trump serves as the distraction for the media and the public.

          "Be Kind; Everyone You Meet is Fighting a Great Battle." Philo of Alexandria
        • Rosa Luxemburg (1166 posts)
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          30. after that it will be Ryan

          trumpG7 Trump salt  
      • no-the-other-left (99 posts)
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        9. That voice makes my brain go absolutely nuts

        Less of a squawk, to my ear, and more of the nighttime bark of an angry junkyard dog.

        Moreover, I suspect the unnatural sound is something she has deliberately cultivated/manufactured over the years, in hopes of making her sound less female and more authoritative and electable.

        Cuz if you listen to videos from when she was first lady, she didn’t sound anything like she does now. Two entirely different voices.

        A wise friend also suggested that she may be a closet smoker.


        • PennLawyer (2528 posts)
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          12. That voice would scare the shit out of her grandchildren.

          Hope their nannies carefully screened them from ever overhearing Clusterbomb Abuela on the teevee, and that Hillary can control herself  from bitter outbursts at the family holiday gatherings.  Otherwise those babes will grow up with the vocabulary of pissed off longshoremen.

        • farleftlib (1363 posts)
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          35. I have to hit the mute button when she's on TV

          Watching the debates was pure hell. And yes, I do believe she’s a smoker. She has the deep vertical lines on her upper lip which I see in women over 50 who are smokers. I can just see her with a drink in one hand and a smoke in the other cussing at everybody in sight. :puke:

          Never believe that a few caring people can't change the world. For, indeed, that's all who ever have. Margaret Mead
      • jeff47 (1126 posts)
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        29. No, because then Pence could only have 8 years in office.

        Pence will be the actual power behind the figurehead for 2 years and 1 day, then Trump will be impeached or resign.  Then Pence can run for re-election twice.

    • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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      5. Harpers has a new owner now, right? The cover looks like a cover of

      The Atlantic.  Which used to be decent, but descended into the neoliberal toilet.

      Almost all the magazines look and read the same to me now.  I remember I used to find it such a treat to read the varied magazines.

      • senz (5378 posts)
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        7. Please don't make me cry.

        Almost all the magazines look and read the same to me now. I remember I used to find it such a treat to read the varied magazines.

        This is a direct result of Clinton’s 1996 Telecom Act.  I tried to warn people about it back in the day.

        Therefore, read my sig line.  Let’s do something about it.

        • Enthusiast (11104 posts)
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          15. I agree the media is horrible. I doubt that Trump would attempt a correction.

          "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
          • MistaP (6953 posts)
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            32. heck, the pathetic conservadems-only uniformity of the media that let themselves

            be synchronized so they could get front-row seats at Her levee suit him just fine

            he doesn’t want an opposition while he recreates the GOP, he wants colorless pap that pretends pinatas and yelling “Putin!” during speeches and impeachment chatter for the sake of an arrogant, frozen-out minority party will actually do anything to him

            the Dems won’t be a managed opposition, they’re lining up in the chutes and breaking down the slaughterhouse doors without a wrangler in sight

            http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
        • goodgirl (2180 posts)
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          19. Yes, the problems with our media are a result of the Telecommunications Act.

          And thus the problems with our democracy.  Or should I say, our “former democracy?”

          It amazes me that more people don’t see that.

          Mankind must put an end to war before war puts an end to mankind.    John F. Kennedy
          • 2cannan (1418 posts)
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            37. That and repeal of the Fairness Doctrine.

        • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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          21. I'm onboard if you have an idea. I would love to reset to preclinton

          in just about everything.  I’d give up the internet.

          I remember writing in my diary on the new year that Clinton would be the first boomer president and hopefully things would change (from Reagan/bush)

          Well, they did — just not for the better, as it turned out.  And being a boomer didn’t mean a thing.

        • Mom Cat (15002 posts)
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          24. So write it and circulate it. It's a good idea.

               NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
      • pinduck (1109 posts)
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        16. I didn't know the Atlantic had a new owner. I did realize the Atlantic soiled

        itself pretty badly, and very publicly, during the recent campaign. Thanks for the info.


        "Sometimes I feel like Fletcher Christian..."
      • bemildred (5841 posts)
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        18. New editor.

        Less intellectual, more empathetic-authentic, and if anything, more progressive (or perhaps leftist) that Lapham’s editorship was.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
        • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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          22. Lapham's still the owner? And the new editor is more left?

          So what’s with the covers?  They’ve had a distinctive ‘look’ most of the time lapham owned things…not this look though

          • bemildred (5841 posts)
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            25. Lapham was the editor for a long time.

            He retired a few years ago, started up Lapham’s Quarterly, which is different. The guy that took over as editor has kept if progressive, but he tends more to the SJW side of things, whereas Lapham was a member of the plutocracy, and tended to see economics and politics. His quarterly excerpts literature from all of history on particular subjects in each issue.

            It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
            • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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              26. Yes — that he looked at that aspect seriously and deeply is what made

              his magazine near unique.  So interesting.  I will mourn the old harpers and hope for the best with the new.


              (Despite the scholarly perspective, the 1% still marries itself — and doesn’t give away its cash)


    • senz (5378 posts)
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      8. In which Harpers comes out as full-fledged oligarchic.

      Screw Harpers.

    • PennLawyer (2528 posts)
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      10. Really stupid editorial comment; has Harper's no qualitative editors?

      Editing is not supposed to be limited to writing headlines or correcting spelling/grammatical errors.  It is SUPPOSED to FACT CHECK.

      The theme of the cover is that the incoming president belongs behind bars, and what is offered to support that theme?  On clicking on the OP link, I found that it was the editor’s overview of the article.  I couldn’t access the whole article, so don’t know if the editor was quoting the following, or this was his/her own opinion.  Here’s the money quote:

      “the Trump University litigation alone would probably have earned him a fraud conviction if he hadn’t settled.”

      Here’s the deal, campers.  From everything I’ve read about it, this was CIVIL, class action lawsuit seeking recovery of monetary damages.  It was NOT a criminal case.  There was no legal action charging him with criminal activity, i.e., fraud.  Defendant parties  in civil claims are subject to orders to  financially compensate plaintiffs for proven damages.  Only cases filed in criminal courts have the possibility of  “convictions”, i.e., jail time, as implied by the magazine’s scurrilous cover.

      Who will edit the editor at Harper’s?  Evidently they’re basically relying on spell check, period.

      • ThinkingANew (1427 posts)
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        11. We passed the fact threshold. Facts no longer matter

        (in the mainstream media) that is until we the people say enough!

        Terrible to watch this happen though isn’t it. And so many people are duped and actually enable it further.

        "(modern) newspapers publish nothing more than “weaponized text"" “When you read a newspaper article, you are reading weaponized text that is designed to affect a person just like you." Julian Assange  
      • Gallagher (533 posts)
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        13. I had already accessed my one free article, no way would I pay to read…

        Maybe this is what he is referring to.  Not sure if it can be viewed as “one free article”, or not.


    • djean111 (5598 posts)
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      17. Fuck Harpers.

      Do these people really want Pence?  Or are they still clinging to some bizarre vision of laws being swept aside, by unanimous acclaim, so that Hillary can have her Sally Field moment, and then proceed to wage war on pretty much everything good and decent and human?  Whatever Trump has done, the Clintons have done exponentially worse.  It is who they are.  The bitterness tells me that much was promised in return for power and money, and none of it was good.

      • *Obligatory disclaimer - when I say "Democratic Party" I mean the DNC - the Clintons and the un-elected people and the consultants and the lobbyists and the corporations who actually run things.  The people who work and vote and are registered as "D" are no more the actual party than Trekkies are Star Trek.   Extra credit - the Democratic Party gets to actually fuck up your life. When you vote for it.
      You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
    • tularetom (2311 posts)
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      20. Harper must be spinning in his grave to see what they did to his magazine

      I hope for his sake he isn’t still alive and exposed to crap like that.

      I went home with a waitress the way I always do  How was I to know she was with the russians, too?
      • FanBoy (7983 posts)
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        23. The "oldest general interest monthly in america"

        “Harper’s Magazine made its debut in June 1850, the brainchild of the prominent New York book-publishing firm Harper & Brothers.”


        So it would be several harpers spinning…

        Although the earliest issues consisted largely of material that had already been published in England, the magazine soon began to print the work of American artists and writers—among them Horatio Alger, Stephen A. Douglas, Theodore Dreiser, Horace Greeley, Winslow Homer, William Dean Howells, Henry James, Jack London, John Muir, Frederic Remington, Booth Tarkington, and Mark Twain. Several departments served to note regularly important events of the day, such as the publication of Herman Melville’s novel Moby-Dick, the laying of the first trans-Atlantic cable, the latest discoveries from Thomas Edison’s workshop, and the progress of the crusade for women’s rights.

    • leveymg (3820 posts)
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      28. Lewis Lapham he is not.

      • Koko (4525 posts)
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        33. So True…….!


    • TwilightSporkle (1795 posts)
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      31. People still read magazines like Harper's?

      Serious question. I see them on the shelf at the store, and they never budge, until they are removed for new stock. Do people really buy these things, and read them as anything other than commode-side diversions?

      What if I want to tell you to leave me and my beloved ones in peace

      But you only understand the language of the sword

      I let the blade do the talking

      So my tongue shall become iron

      And my words the mighty roar of war

      • Koko (4525 posts)
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        34. Yes, they do. Harper's is lagging in Internet presence

        but working to change that.  Obviously part of their working for greater online presence is to post the “Trump Behind Bars” article for a one time free read.  Yuck..they are jumping the gun on that one.  There must have been changes in management.


    • W8ing4Everyman (254 posts)
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      36. More asinine drivel.

      It’s hilarious that these writes et al think they’re clever.

      They’re telling us and showing us more about themselves, than Trump.  All the name-calling the do, only makes them look just as bad as their descriptions of him.

      They. Just. Can’t. Stop. Digging. That. Hole.

      "Let justice be done, though the heavens fall."

      (Jim Garrison, 1967, the only one to prosecute the assassination of JFK)