Head Kissing: An Issue for Our Times

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    • #49610
      ZimInSeattle
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      by GARY LEUPP

      It strikes me as an unusual action, kissing the back of someone’s head. Sounds like a ritualistic early-Christian thing, like the baptismal kiss of the Apostolic Tradition, or the papal foot-washing and foot-kissing (such as Pope Francis does), more than sexual aggression.

      I just wonder—idly, as I do—about the appeal of the act to the transgressor. Probably has to do with scent. Pheromones are most abundant on the face, forehead and scalp. Those plus the smell of shampoo and conditioner could affect someone close up.

      The vice-president perhaps felt drawn to the back of the woman’s head, and breathing in the mix, planted a quick kiss with his lips on the crown just over the Occipital bone. Never a thought thereafter that this would be any sort of problem, it being quite public and perfunctory and after all, kind of weird.

      Not like Brett Kavanaugh pulling his penis out in front of a woman’s face, which Congress forgave him for, as you recall. But unusual.

      More: https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/04/04/head-kissing-an-issue-for-our-times/

      "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK "If wars can be started by lies, they can be stopped by truth." ~ Julian Assange #SurviveAndRevolt

    • #49614
      bazukhov
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      There are no facts, only interpretations.   Friedrich Nietzsche

      As in “he said/she said”.

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

    • #49616
      JustSayin
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      Home stealing would be a bigger problem with Bo’s girlfriend Biden

      Never expect different result by following the previous steps

    • #49619
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “Surely it’s good that we are rapidly heading towards zero-tolerance for sexual harassment and “unwanted body contact” in general. It’s a question of how widely we conceptualize, define and challenge it.

      My Japanese wife was uncomfortable when, while visiting Spain some years ago, our exchange-student son’s home mother embraced and kissed her, as is the routine automatic greeting in Madrid. Very different ideas about acceptable body contact pertain in different cultures… There are different degrees of reserve and respect for private space.

      “Inappropriate behavior” includes everything from statements that make someone uncomfortable to rape. Unwanted kisses of the Trump variety, or even his pussy-grabbing, fall somewhere into this spectrum. But head-kissing?  If it were protracted, and wet… yes. That would be, among other things, gross. But I doubt Biden did that. He did something arguably strange and obviously unwelcome (thus inappropriate)…”

      Head Kissing: An Issue for Our Times

       

    • #49636
      Fire With Fire
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      It is a matter of tiny but not zero interest to me — what it is specifically that Biden does that disqualifies him from the Presidency?  I have to agree that it is creepy.  And the Drudge video showing him put his hands on young people is a bit worse than creepy.

      Maybe we should amend the Constitution to say that a President must be 35 years old, a citizen and not creepy.

      Seriously, since the ill fated campaign of Gary Hart three decades ago, the de facto standard for Presidential behavior has been in flux.  It used to be none of the media’s — or the public’s — business that FDR was unable to walk or that he had a girl friend. Ike’s affair was nobody’s business, and JFK’s exploits were envied rather than condemned by the reporters of his day.

      I have no objection to raising Joe’s creepiness as a campaign issue.  That is how democracy is supposed to work.  What I don’t support is the pre-emptive surrender of Al Franken.  The voters are supposed to decide who our leaders are, and the voters are free to make their decision any way they want.  Joe’s creepiness is Issue Number 238 in my reason to vote for somebody else for President — it might be somebody else’s number one issue.

      The Media Event called #me-too is fundamentally anti-democratic as it transfers power from the electorate to the media.

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    • #49664
      Optimus2
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      I am an old woman. I would like to clarify a few things. This was NEVER a normal back in the days thing to do. If you did this to a woman who wasn’t yours in the old days you got the crap beat out of you. No defense that this is ‘generational’ BECAUSE ITS NOT. Secondly, he does it clearly in front of cameras because it makes him hard. He can FONDLE women who aren’t his and he doesn’t know of ALL AGES because HE LIKES TO DO IT. This is a predator who gets his jollies by FONDLING women and girls he doesn’t know. This isn’t a SMALL THING to women. Imagine men if someone patted your ass or grabbed your balls. There would be a FIGHT TO THE DEATH if it happened to you but we have to TAKE IT and not say a damned thing. Joe Biden KNOWS WHAT HE’S DOING! His Uncle Joe from Kokomo schtick is his cover. He does this because he gets a buzz from it, a sexual zing from dominating and shaming women. Go through his life and see how he hates women. He OOZED CONTEMPT for Anita Hill, one of my heroes, and ENJOYED DOING WHAT HE DID! I am flabbergasted that they don’t take him at face value. BELIEVE THEM WHEN THEY TELL AND SHOW YOU WHO THEY ARE!
      Fucker is a pervert. PERIOD1

      Until all are one.

      • #49668
        ZimInSeattle
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        Bravo @Optimus2 very well said.

        "Poverty is the parent of revolution and crime" - Aristotle "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine" - George Bernard Shaw "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK "If wars can be started by lies, they can be stopped by truth." ~ Julian Assange #SurviveAndRevolt

      • #50113
        Calico
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        “we have to TAKE IT and not say a damned thing”… so true. There are dozens of ways girls are trained to just take it. A few small examples from my own life — nothing earth-shattering, but I was expected to just accept it, and I did. But not without resentment.

        1. An uncle who would sit me & my sister on his lap, running his thumbnail down our dress zippers to make it sound like he was unzipping our dresses. We’d get all upset, but he was “just kidding”… until he wasn’t. When he felt up my sister, she told Mom, and it stopped. Later in life, he got an anonymous letter from someone at his church accusing him of “molesting all our children.”
        2. A brother who constantly pestered me to kiss him. Did my father tell him to knock it off? No, he told ME to just do it.
        3. A boy in kindergarten who would always lie behind me at nap time and stick his hand up my dress. I would get up and move my mat, and he would follow. At some point, the teacher would tell ME to stop moving around. No one paid any attention to my complaints that this boy bothered me, until my mother caught the little psycho strangling me on the last day of school.
        4. A boss who decided to hand out paychecks at the Christmas party. He would shake the guys’ hands, but indicated he wanted a kiss from the women. When it was my turn, I offered my hand, but he shook his head and pointed at his cheek. Did I make a scene, ruin the mood at the party, offend this otherwise nice guy who had hired me, who paid me? No, I just did it. It was expected. It was no big deal, right?
        5. Date rape… because I’d never been taught that MY feelings mattered, that I could say NO for no reason other than I didn’t want to. Some would call this “just a bad date.”

        And critics always say, “Well, why didn’t you say something at the time? Why now? You must be lying.”

        Fuck Biden.

    • #49703
      Electrolyte Orchestra
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      Good post. Sen. Feinstein remarked that Biden isn’t sexual about these interactions, just an affectionate guy. My question is why doesn’t he do this with men?

    • #49713
      doh1304
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      My first instinct was to say that Biden was “just kissing babies”, that a generic show of affection was what he believed was expected of him. Then I looked more carefully. These are women who do not know him, have no warning and no reason to expect, and children, not babies. And since it is done in public by a higher ranked official they cannot defend themselves or be defended. This is not about sex (though I am sure that Optimus 2 is right) and I’m sure that people will point to Biden as an illustration of the fevered excess of #metoo (And they will be right. Look at how fast #metoo went from Harvey Weinstein to Garrison Keillor ) it is about power and status. Biden is acting outrageously, but in a way that he will not and cannot be called on – because he is who he is.

    • #49740
      OCMI
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      Rape is about dominance over and humiliation of the victim, and gives the perpetrator a rush.

      Biden hugs, rubs and kisses to achieve the same ends.

      The majority of mankind is ground down by industrial oppression in order that the small remnant may live in ease.
      —Helen Keller, 1911

      Joe Biden, you're no Jack Kennedy: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."—John F Kennedy, 1962

    • #49749
      xyzse
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      If anything else, I guess I’m glad there is a debate on this going on.  That this is happening now.  I must thank Joe Biden for creating this conversation.  I find it informative.

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