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    Hedges: It really is "now or never" NOW … for reals this time.

    Chris Hedges is sounding the alarm bells — now about Trump’s tyrannical power-grabs in our courts, the press, institutions of diplomacy, the arts. and against Universities — without ever spelling-out exactly WHAT it is he thinks we need to be doing, except “resist”.   Hedges is sounding a lot like the proverbial little boy who cries “wolf”, again and again and again. He’s been sounding the alarm at least since the NDAA during the Obama years, and of course, he’s absolutely correct in his dire assessments, and has been right all along.  But the question hangs comspicuosly in the air: Is anyone listening?  The silence is getting deafening.  Concerningly so.

    A Last Chance for Resistance 
    By Chris Hedges  ** Mar 19, 2017 ** truthdig.org

    The crawl toward despotism within a failed democracy is always incremental. No regime planning to utterly extinguish civil liberties advertises its intentions in advance. It pays lip service to liberty and justice while obliterating the institutions and laws that make them possible. Its opponents, including those within the establishment, make sporadic attempts to resist, but week by week, month by month, the despot and his reactionary allies methodically consolidate power. Those inside the machinery of government and the courts who assert the rule of law are purged. Critics, including the press, are attacked, ridiculed and silenced. The state is reconfigured until the edifice of tyranny is unassailable. (snip)

    The current administration’s budget proposes to give the war industry, the domestic policing agencies, the fossil fuel industry, Wall Street, billionaires and the national security and surveillance agencies more than they could have imagined possible before the election. These forces, as in all fascist states, will be the pillars of the Trump regime. They will tolerate Donald Trump’s idiocy, ineptitude and unbridled narcissism in exchange for increased profits and power. Despots are often buffoons. Appealing to their vanity and ego is an effective form of manipulation. Skilled sycophants can play despots like musical instruments for personal advancement.

    Trump, like all despots, has no real ideology. His crusade against Wall Street, including Goldman Sachs, and the billionaire class during the presidential election campaign vanished the moment he took office. He has appointed five former Goldman Sachs employees to high posts in his administration. His budget will bleed the poor, the working class and the middle class and swell the bank accounts of the oligarchs. He is calling for abolishing the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and the National Endowment for the Arts and the cutting of programs that provide legal service to low-income people and grants to libraries and museums. If Trump’s budget is approved by Congress, there will not even be a pretense of civil society. Trump and his family will profit from his presidency. Corporations will profit from his presidency. Wall Street will profit from his presidency. And the people will be made to pay.

    Despots demand absolute loyalty. This is why they place family members in the inner circles. The Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceausescu, whose vanity rivaled that of Trump, and Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein filled their governments with their children, siblings, nephews, nieces and in-laws and rounded out their inner courts with racists, opportunists and thugs of the kind that now populate the White House.

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/a_last_chance_for_resistance_20170319

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  • id-entity (2047 posts)
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    1. It's not like anyones not listening

    hysterics by Hegdes. Most  are just duh, der, oh you “woke up”? It ain’t about Trump or “current admin”, it’s the same shit as ever. Flatulent whining is just not interesting or fun, and not “progressive” in any real sense of the word. Shitposting frog memes and doing chaos magick in Kekistan is weird and fun, and Orange Baboon is just a big fat political chaos joke, joke to be treasured as “content” and played with, with all underlying seriousness of our transformative Event. When actual conservatives are worried and whine about Trump destroying the credibility and dignity of their treasured Institutions and dead ideologies, yup, that’s the fucking purpose of this all, and to have fun while doing – if revolution ain’t fun, it’s not worth doing, and Chris ain’t fun.  Wake up a few layers more.

    We can’t go on like this and there’s a bit of deconstructing to do, in this transmodern era of emergent translativity.

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    • MrMickeysMom (1328 posts)
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      6. We certainly need to share the "hysterics" by Hedges…

      Other than that, how do you distinguish “flatulent whining” from the fun that is part and parcel of your preference in revolutions these days, hmmmmmmm???

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      • id-entity (2047 posts)
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        7. Arguably,

        the distinction is a matter of taste. And matters of taste are only things worth arguing.

        I’m not denying there’s lot to get depressed about. On the contrary, there’s way too much, so much that getting depressed about the big picture is no more an option, if you don’t want to be just part of the problem. If the system gets me depressed, it has won.

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  • jdpriestly (5686 posts)
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    2. Dictators are their own worst enemies.

    Hitler so abused his scientists, the most brilliant people in his society, that we, under Roosevelt were able to develop a scientific community that achieved, for example, developing an atomic bomb before Germany did even before Heisenberg, the German scientist whose work was basic to the development of that weapon could.

    The story of Heisenberg reveals what happens to innovation and creativity in a society when loyalty to a political leadership, a totalitarian leadership becomes the primary value.  Heisenberg was in charge of trying to develop an atom bomg in Nazi Germany.  Oppenheimer and his team beat Heisenberg to it.

    “He (Heisenberg) also made important contributions to the theories of the hydrodynamics of turbulent flows, the atomic nucleus, ferromagnetism, cosmic rays, and subatomic particles, and he was instrumental in planning the first West German nuclear reactor at Karlsruhe, together with a research reactor in Munich, in 1957. He was a principal scientist in the Nazi German nuclear weapon project during World War II. He travelled to occupied Copenhagen where he met and discussed the German project with Niels Bohr.

    . . . .

    “On 1 April 1935, the eminent theoretical physicist Arnold Sommerfeld, Heisenberg’s doctoral advisor at the University of Munich, achieved emeritus status. However, Sommerfeld stayed in his chair during the selection process for his successor, which took until 1 December 1939. The process was lengthy due to academic and political differences between the Munich Faculty’s selection and that of the Reichserziehungsministerium (REM, Reich Education Ministry) and the supporters of Deutsche Physik, which was anti-Semitic and had a bias against theoretical physics, especially quantum mechanics and the theory of relativity.

    “In 1935, the Munich Faculty drew up a list of candidates to replace Sommerfeld as ordinarius professor of theoretical physics and head of the Institute for Theoretical Physics at the University of Munich. There were three names on the list: Werner Heisenberg, who received the Nobel Prize in Physics for 1932, Peter Debye, who received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry in 1936, and Richard Becker – all former students of Sommerfeld. The Munich Faculty was firmly behind these candidates, with Heisenberg as their first choice. However, supporters of Deutsche Physik (an anti-Jewish group of scientists very loyal to the Third Reich) and elements in the REM had their own list of candidates, and the battle dragged on for over four years. During this time, Heisenberg came under vicious attack by the Deutsche Physik supporters. One attack was published in Das Schwarze Korps, the newspaper of the Schutzstaffel (SS), headed by Heinrich Himmler. In this, Heisenberg was called a “White Jew” (i.e. an Aryan who acts like a Jew) who should be made to “disappear”.[58] These attacks were taken seriously, as Jews were violently attacked and incarcerated. Heisenberg fought back with an editorial and a letter to Himmler, in an attempt to resolve this matter and regain his honour.

    At one point, Heisenberg’s mother visited Himmler’s mother. The two women knew each other, as Heisenberg’s maternal grandfather and Himmler’s father were rectors and members of a Bavarian hiking club. Eventually, Himmler settled the Heisenberg affair by sending two letters, one to SS Gruppenführer Reinhard Heydrich and one to Heisenberg, both on 21 July 1938. In the letter to Heydrich, Himmler said Germany could not afford to lose or silence Heisenberg, as he would be useful for teaching a generation of scientists. To Heisenberg, Himmler said the letter came on recommendation of his family and he cautioned Heisenberg to make a distinction between professional physics research results and the personal and political attitudes of the involved scientists. The letter to Heisenberg was signed under the closing “Mit freundlichem Gruß und, Heil Hitler!” (With friendly greetings, Heil Hitler!”)[59] Overall, the Heisenberg affair was a victory for academic standards and professionalism. However, the appointment of Wilhelm Müller to replace Sommerfeld was a political victory over academic standards. Müller was not a theoretical physicist, had not published in a physics journal, and was not a member of the Deutsche Physikalische Gesellschaft; his appointment was considered a travesty and detrimental to educating theoretical physicists.[59][60][61][62][63]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Heisenberg

    One of the worst effects of the kind of political rigidity and narrowness that the Trump regime represents is that it devalues science, the arts and the creativity that make a society prosperous.  Trump will eventually fail simply because his values do not encompass or encourage the human spirit, that is, the love and tolerance that make a country successful.

    It is not yet certain, but there is a very good chance, if history is any guide, that America under the regressive and oppressive Trump government, will fall behind in terms of science, the arts, and lose respect and possibly our leadership role in the world.

    Trump is not a student of history, culture or what makes a human society succeed.  He will make many mistakes, and all Americans will pay for them.

     

    No Truth!  No Trust!  Bernie or Bust!
    • Enthusiast (7812 posts)
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      3. Excellent post, JD.

      Is it safe to say that the ingrained anti-Semitic bias of the NAZIs prevented them from being first to build the atom bomb? I have always felt this was the case.

      Considering WWII Germany’s advancements in rocket technology it is a frightening thing to consider.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
      • arendt (1432 posts)
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        14. It contributed, but did not, by itself, prevent a Nazi bomb

        The German project went with heavy water, instead of graphite, as a moderator, which turned out to be a technical mistake. It might have been that more good scientists could have solved that problem, as they did in the US. That’s the only place the lack of science played a role.

        But, the real  problem was priorities (and money) in the middle of a world war.

        The story is extremely well presented in a Norwegian TV series, The Heavy Water War. In it, you learn that the German budget for their bomb project was miniscule and always in competition with  hi-tech projects that promised more immediate payoff – like V-weapons, jet planes, and type 29 submarines.

        The German bomb effort was so underfunded that it never even got a controllable chain reaction going, much less began to tackle the TVA-sized power issues involved in separating sufficient quantities of the 235 and 238 isotopes.

        Bottom line: the Nazis simply did not have the resources to even do the research, much less build a bomb. Anyone who says they did is simply lacking the facts.

         

        • Ohio Barbarian (2773 posts)
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          19. It didn't help the Nazis any when the Norwegian resistance blew up their heavy

          water plant, either.

          "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
        • jdpriestly (5686 posts)
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          22. Good points. When bullying others is the priority, the focus is way off course.

          That’s usually true for dictators.  The task of controlling everyone and everything is so overwhelming that they lose sight of the goal.

          The NAZIs had uranium.  The US used plutonium.  The NAZIs used expansion.  The Americans used implosion.  We had better scientists.  I won’t mention the ehtnicity/religion of our lead scientist, Oppenheimer.

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    • Flygirl (2538 posts)
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      4. Well since our "Leadership Role in the World" seems

      Predicated on how many wars we can start, how many drones we can deploy, how many nations we can overturn their governments, how much natural resources we can steal from other nations, how many human beings we can kill and torture, how many economies we can destroy, including our own..how much of the world we can pollute for profit..

      well I just returned from Hiroshima…and I can say…our “Leadership Role ” needs to be changed..it needs a fucking wake up call…

      I went through the Hiroshima Memorial..when it was filled with school age kids…if you even think “Our Leadership Role ” is respected..you are sorely mistaken!!

      According to the DNC I am a Wife of a Taco Bowl Member!
    • Ohio Barbarian (2773 posts)
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      20. True, but the Nazi regime still had to be destroyed at a terrible cost, as any

      Russian, Brit, or most people from the Nazi-conquered countries will tell you. Fortunately, I think Trump is more incompetent than Hitler was, and he doesn’t have a citizenry nearly as devastated by a cruel treaty and the Great Depression to manipulate here. Things in America are bad, yes, and getting worse, but we’re not Germany from 1918-1933. Thank the gods.

      "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov  
  • Fordfairlanestl (580 posts)
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    5. Every day brings a new dimension

    of depression for U.S. citizens. At least for me, it seems that way. As we have progressed in life, hasn’t it appeared to get better for humanity?  Well look around you now. It seems to me that the current administration is determined to undermine and destroy the bottom 99%, on a daily basis. We are constantly being lied to and misled. And no one does a thing about it. IE: Has anyone seen any indication that we are progressing towards “Make America great again”? Look at all the new oligarchs he’s put in place. And our new healthcare will cover more people, and a smaller cost? Both are total bullshit.  And what about climate change? All of a sudden, it does not exist? I could go on and on. I don’t think Trump has said one truthful thing since he took office.  To me this whole “Trump thing” appears to be one of the largest con games I’ve ever witnessed. I’m just waiting,,,,,,,,. Hey, it may happen this week.

    There is no one like Bernie Sanders. NO ONE!!! The cause is right!!  The time is NOW!!!
    • id-entity (2047 posts)
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      8. Bullshit

      Trump is bullshit. Clintons are bullshit. Republicans are bullshit. Democrats are bullshit. All political parties are bullshit. Constitution is bullshit. USA is bullshit. Corporations are bullshit. Federal Reserve is bullshit. Every fucking country and every fucking bank is bullshit. Media is bullshit. Religions are bullshit. It’s all bullshit. Shitposting is bullshit, but in it’s way, honest bullshit. :)

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      • INTJ (2021 posts)
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        9. That's a lot'a bullshit! in there n/t

        Grant us the vision to see what must be changed and save us from making it even worse.
        • id-entity (2047 posts)
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          10. …

          Myths are bullshit. Philosophy is bullshit. Ideology is bullshit. Science is bullshit. Identity is bullshit. Me too. Just took a dump and that’s God’s honest truth.

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          • INTJ (2021 posts)
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            17. Mo and mo bullshit! Some lost their herd? LOL

            Grant us the vision to see what must be changed and save us from making it even worse.
            • id-entity (2047 posts)
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              18. What herd?

              First time I volunteered for a real job to shovel not only bullshit but also plenty of cow dung and told also to drive the cows to pasture, the boss of the place told my that I have no sense of herd. :)

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      • 99thMonkey (3164 posts)
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        11. "If the system gets me depressed, it has won"

        Has the system won? .. or does it just sound that way?

        • id-entity (2047 posts)
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          12. The system

          is helpless, hopelesly self-defeating, at loss and without direction. Empty charade that can no more be fronted and represented by anyone but most narcissistic buffoon, least self-aware and most self-degrading teflon-slippery reality-TV attention whore. Trump is the truth of the system, it’s true face not hidden anymore.

          Yes, there is pity, sadness and compassion with those feeling the pains of loss and separation. But there is also joy of exhilaration and enthousiasm of entering into unknown.

           

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          • 99thMonkey (3164 posts)
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            13. Cool dat. Well said.

            Actually, I’ve had my bouts with depression occasionally .. yet so far have managed to come out on top.

            At least with Trump — unlike with Obama — there are not even any pretenses anymore, as you say, its “true face” is now there for all to see, and in a weird way, that is progress, and therefore reason to have a shred of optimism.

             

            • id-entity (2047 posts)
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              15. Funny thing

              is all the elite talk about “post-truth” when the truth about our society and the fragments we have become is so openly glaring at us. Yup, by “post-truth” they mean their lost battle of manufactured consent, the carefully nurtured belief that Emperor does have clothes. Not the snotty shitposter brat who points and says: “Look, a naked guy! Haha!” :)

               

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              16. PS

              We just watched the last episode of The Crown, 1st season. It’s brilliant. Very sympathetic study of the impossible demands and horrible institutional cruelty of being the head of state, with dignity and doing the job right by becoming nothing but the job. Good mix of feels, sympathy, admiring and disgust. She’s the sorriest loser of all.

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  • Ohio Barbarian (2773 posts)
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    21. Well, I like what Hedges is saying now. And he's right on target with this rant.

    Thanks for posting it. I also like his show on RT America.

    "Identity politics is the last refuge of the politically incompetent."  --Me, with a hat tip to Isaac Asimov