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    Hillary partisans claim Putin trolls threw the election for Trump

    But crickets from them when asked if David Brock’s million dollar troll army  may have threw the primary for Hillary.

    I asked Joy Reid on Twitter why MSNBC never, ever mentions David Brock/Hillary’s million dollar troll army that was used to attack, belittle, and drive Sanders supporters away from Hillary.  Yet they wax endlessly how Putin doing the same thing won Trump the general.  She blew up on me accusing me of never having been a Democrat.  When I informed her that I had voted solidly Democratic from the age of 18, all the way up until age 55, she blew a gasket and blocked me.

    Every time  I confront a Hillary Partisan on this subject, I get either anger or crickets.

    Hey, if it worked for Putin, who’s to say it didn’t work for Brock/Hillary?

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    • Xyzse (1872 posts)
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      1. Precisely!

      Hell, they had the most well funded campaign ever.  They were spending 3 times or more in comparison to any one else.  During the primaries she spent a heck of a lot more than Sanders, in the GE, she out-spent Trump 2-3 times as much.

      Funneling money that should have gone to local races to prop her up no less.  That to me is the bigger story, since she was the drag on the Democratic party from winning more seats in the Senate, Congress and state government.

      • FanBoy (7138 posts)
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        7. I can't figure out what she spent it on. She was holding "rallies" in

        high school gyms.

        Gyms that were partly curtained off so the crowd wouldn’t look so small on TV.

        • Xyzse (1872 posts)
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          10. I know right? Other than using it for opposition research

          As well as trying to figure out what to say each time, I really don’t know where it went.

          • TwilightSporkle (1644 posts)
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            24. You know damn well where it went

            Clinton ain’t going home poor.

            What if I want to tell you to leave me and my beloved ones in peace

            But you only understand the language of the sword

            I let the blade do the talking

            So my tongue shall become iron

            And my words the mighty roar of war

            • Xyzse (1872 posts)
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              26. Yes, but, unless I have actual proof of it.

              It is still just allegedly.

      • The Crone (2794 posts)
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        15. Did she spend it all?

        In the past, she simply planned on keeping a lot of the revenue she raised and then running for a new and different office.

        She kept Senate PAC funds from her Senate campaign to use in her 2008 run for the Presidency.

        And now the word is she will heroically attempt to run for mayor of NYC. (Barf, gag, barf.)

        I am in agreement about Her Lousiness dragging down the locals by keeping monies meant for them. The important thing to remember is she is not a Democrat and could care less about local candidates or the well being of 99.9% of the citizens of this country.

        "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
        • Xyzse (1872 posts)
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          17. I have absolutely no idea what she did with the money.

          She spent so much for so little effectiveness, that should have clued people in that she effing sucks.

          I just find the whole thing more convoluted than the craziest money-laundering schemes out there.

          She can give seminars on that topic.

      • Rozinante (2473 posts)
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        20. Good question.

        i think she spent a lot on her entourage, but didn’t do much campaign stops. Mostly fundraisers in the elite crowd. She definitely sucked vast sums of money out of state races.  If Sanders had been the nominee, not only would he have beaten Trump but also had a Dem controlled Senate. Party needs rebuilding from the ground up, and the failed corrupt leadership needs to go to accomplish that.

        • Xyzse (1872 posts)
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          25. Makes sense.

          The way I see it, Clintonistas would rather have a Trump Presidency instead of Bernie.  They still attack and backstab him each time they think they can.

    • Hobbit709 (1728 posts)
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      2. There's desperation There's desperation in the air"

      “It leaves a stain on all your clothes
      And no detergent gets it out”

       

      Meatloaf-Life’s A Lemon And I Want My Money Back.

      I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
    • LuckyDog (640 posts)
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      3. You should have asked her

      if Putin caused herself to disregard Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania while focusing on North Carolina in the final days, despite desperate pleas from her daunted campaign on the ground?  Isn’t North Carolina the state where it was learned the Dept. Of Homeland Security actually did hack into the election?  Those aren’t partisan opinions, they are facts.

      • SPiZ (86 posts)
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        4. Actually I did point out

        Hillary campaigning in places like Arizona while ignoring swing states.   I got no reply back.  Just anger and personal attacks on myself.

        • LuckyDog (640 posts)
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          5. Good on ya fir even trying

          I, unfortunately, do not have the patience to engage idjits.

      • The Crone (2794 posts)
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        16. What was the result of Homeland Security

        hacking into No Carolina election?

        "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
    • frylock (1185 posts)
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      6. The anger stems from their inability to admit they were wrong.

      It’s a severe character flaw.

      • FanBoy (7138 posts)
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        8. or their inability to admit they deliberately threw the contest to trump?

        • MistaP (4112 posts)
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          9. they didn't just want Trump to win the nom, they thought that was an outside

          chance and “just” wanted him to move the party rightwards

          http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

          http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
          • FanBoy (7138 posts)
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            11. who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men (and women)?

            how do we know what they “really” wanted?

            People so easily attribute motives to media and political “stars” because they think they know them.  But we don’t know them at all, generally speaking.

            • Koko (2678 posts)
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              13. "The Shadow Knows"…..and, there was Bernie

              More from the article:

              Sanders, a self-described Democratic socialist, repeatedly warned in the primary that he would have a greater chance of defeating Trump. Poll after poll showed that he would have beaten Trump in the general election by wide margins. Instead, his candidacy was repressed — and now Clinton has lost to Trump.

              Trump and Clinton were the least popular major-party presidential nominees in U.S. history, according to an August poll. An October report cited Sanders as the most popular political figure in the country.

              • FanBoy (7138 posts)
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                14. the reason i'm more inclined to trust that with sanders,

                what you see is what you get, is that his words and his actions have been pretty consistent over the years, he’s persisted in them despite heavy criticism,

                and he doesn’t seem to have an entourage of handlers

              • Major Hogwash (1898 posts)
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                19. ^^ I can only hope that everyone at that other site reads this ^^

                It may not sink in for a long time, but the longer they watch Trump speak on tv as the POTUS for the next several years, they are going to have to deal with the reality of this comment.

                “Poll after poll showed that he would have beaten Trump in the general election by wide margins.”

                • Koko (2678 posts)
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                  22. They are what they always have been……

                  they only see what they see and they are probably paid to do it. Many, left there,(after the Bernie Supporter’s exit) have been there from the beginning/founding.  They always worked against Real Change.  It was all about Obama is a “Change” Democrat..and He Could Win after Kerry’s loss! That’s all they cared about.  Dissidents were only tolerated to build the site.

                  They really didn’t care about the Wars/Interventions/Drones or what “Occupy Wall Street” was about with the 1 to 2% having it all or fighting “On the Ground” for REAL change.

                  At least WE are aware now of what it was all about.  And, good riddance to manipulation.

                  • Major Hogwash (1898 posts)
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                    30. They should sober up soon.

                    New Year’s Day has been over for more than 2 weeks.

          • frylock (1185 posts)
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            12. Thanks, Putin.

            • Art from Ark (1974 posts)
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              18. LOL

              спасибо, пути-пут

              The last time America was run like a business, we ended up with a Great Depression.
    • Rozinante (2473 posts)
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      21. If the Party bosses and their media mouthpieces admit they fucked up,…

      …then their corporate checks dry up. They are desperate to deflect blame so as to keep their spot in the gravy train.

    • TwilightSporkle (1644 posts)
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      23. Sort of like how Superdelegates are awesome but the electoral College is awful

      What if I want to tell you to leave me and my beloved ones in peace

      But you only understand the language of the sword

      I let the blade do the talking

      So my tongue shall become iron

      And my words the mighty roar of war

      • Major Hogwash (1898 posts)
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        27. Hahaha, but they were our superdelegates!

        It doesn’t matter to them that they screwed the entire Democratic base of voters by not holding a fair election for the primaries, but what matters is how she can somehow get in to that chair in the Oval office!

        That’s why she is going to the inauguration, by the way, so she can quietly slip away during the ceremony to go sit in that chair!!!!

        LOL!!!!

      • Art from Ark (1974 posts)
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        31. Funny how that worked out

        The last time America was run like a business, we ended up with a Great Depression.