How racial democracy is being used to denounce social democracy

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    • #358290
      RufusTFirefly
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      How racial democracy is being used to denounce social democracy

      “One of my concerns about Biden is that while we need to get Trump out of office, a Biden administration that limps through four more years of the same sort of wan, neoliberal crap that we had from Clinton and Obama could just pave the way for a more competent version of Trump, which is obviously more dangerous.” — Adolph Reed, Jr.

      Corporate democrats are playing a very cynical game in order to eliminate all talk of social democracy. In an interview in the latest episode of the Ralph Nader Radio Hour, Adolph Reed, emeritus professor of political science and economics at the University of Pennsylvania, did a good job of addressing this uncomfortable truth.

      Here’s a brief excerpt.

      And one of the things that my colleagues and I, comrades and I, have been arguing is that what currently passes for a left in the U.S., the principle of racial democracy, has vastly overwhelmed the principle of social democracy.

      And in fact, people who embrace the former tend to denounce the latter. I mean, that’s what leads to contentions like the New Deal and other universalistic programs are racist because Blacks don’ t benefit. In the first place, that’s a caricature of what happened in the New Deal, but it also points to the degree to which racial democratic discourse has been mobilized against the social democratic discourse.

      And frankly, nothing has spoken more clearly to that effect than the responses of the political elites to the two Sanders campaigns, where in each case, Bernie was attacked from the nominal left by people who contended that his programs weren’t race-first enough. But somehow a corporate shill like Hillary Clinton, and now even Joe Biden, are considered preferable to Sanders.

      You can go the *show’s Web site*  either to *listen to the interview* or to *read a transcript.*

      (Phrases inside asterisks are hyperlinked)

    • #358329
      Ohio Barbarian
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      If everything is racialized, no universal remedies to social problems that would fundamentally change the economic system will ever become reality because the working class fights itself on racial and other weird, irrational lines. A united working class demanding real political power or else is the worst nightmare of the kleptocratic oligarchy.

      So they let some Black folk steal from all the poor folk, too, and call themselves progressive.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #358498
      JonLP
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      The idea we must choose is what is hurting progressives.

      Sanders called for justice for a lot of different things.b

      • #358553
        Ohio Barbarian
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        @jonlp That’s the hard truth the racialists deny, and the people promoting it are fundamentally opposed to economic justice.

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #358653
      MizzGrizz
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      ..comes first,and racial justice then follows naturally.

      Do identitarians think only white people are suffering economically?

    • #358655
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @mizzgrizz If you’re white, you’re privileged and therefore at least comfortable. And you’re racist if you disagree with them on anything.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

    • #358685
      bazukhov
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      Open to all genders, races, ages, social classes, everybody.

      That, at least the ideal of both.   It’s a fool’s errand left to the politicians and priests who have their own ideas of Utopia and are determined to foist them on the rest of us whether we like them or not.

      The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests and his own are the same.

      Stendahl

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

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      Fugitive Birdie
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    • #359000
      Babel 17
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      Who’s getting outright rich under our current system?

      Who would have their legs taken out from underneath them by a UBI, Medicare for All, affordable drugs, and a rational tax system?

    • #359001
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @babel17 Where’s the tab to report someone for making too much sense? Oh, that’s right; that was another site.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook.--Harry Truman

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