How to watch Trump’s second impeachment trial.
February 9, 2021 at 3:24 PM - Views: 130 #402019
Date: Trial begins on Tuesday, February 9, 2021.
Time: 1 p.m. ET.
From CBS News:
Mr. Trump told his supporters at a rally to “fight like hell” as members of Congress prepared to count the Electoral College votes. A mob of his angry backers then stormed the U.S. Capitol, sending lawmakers into hiding and delaying the electoral count for nearly six hours.
Trump “willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: ‘if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore,'” the impeachment article says.
Everyone uses the term “Fight like hell.”
Chuck Schumer: “In the Senate Democrats are going to fight like hell to make this a reality. Americans who took to the streets this week have demanded change. With this legislation Democrats are heeding their calls.”
Josh Shapiro, Democrat (PA): “I want the people of Pennsylvania, and the people all across this country to know that we are going to fight like hell protect your vote, and to make sure your vote is counted.”
“I am confident that we are going to fight like hell to make sure they can (vote).”
Tom Perez (DNC): “We are going to fight like hell to make sure that everyone who wants to vote can excercise that right to vote.”
Chuck Schumer: “I want to tell you Gorsuch. I want to tell you Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.”
Maxine Waters: “If you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, in a gas station, you get out and you create a crowd, and you push back on them, and you tell them they are not welcome.”
Videos of above quotes from Youtube link below (Kim Iverson)…
Kim Iverson: “During the course of the last four years there has been much more violent rhetoric coming from both sides of the aisle.”….
February 9, 2021 at 4:07 PM #402029NV WinoModerator
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but it should be interesting entertainment.
February 9, 2021 at 4:26 PM #402033
February 9, 2021 at 10:24 PM #402130JonLPParticipant
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Trump clearly incited the crowd first spreading lies about the election results. Then there was the promotion of the January 6th rally from Trump himself. He and the speakers clearly incited the crowd. This was all done in plain sight.
The best argument against it is dismissing it based on jurisdiction. The House impeachment was done while Trump was President. The Senate trial is occurring while Trump is a private citizen. I didn’t know that was possible but one thing Trump has given us a civics course. Emoluments clause was one of the first lessons of the Trump administration.
All that said I don’t think we are constitutional scholars though I will say Jim Lane’s legal literacy is higher than most.
Edit: I replied in the wrong spot.
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February 9, 2021 at 4:30 PM #402034
February 9, 2021 at 4:34 PM #402037YanathParticipant
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The “context” is clearly political activism.
February 9, 2021 at 4:34 PM #402039
February 9, 2021 at 4:40 PM #402042Ohio BarbarianModerator
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I probably won’t even watch any commentary about it. If they want to prevent Trump from holding federal office again, they can easily do that under the 14th Amendment by a simple majority vote that Trump incited an insurrection. I don’t even believe that, but if barring Trump from running for President again is the Democrats’ goal, that’s all they have to do.
Since they’re not even considering that in favor of an impeachment trial after a President has left office, that is guaranteed to result in an acquittal, it’s just distractive bullshit away from things like food lines and people standing up in courtrooms against eviction proceedings.
And where’s my 2K, anyway?
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February 9, 2021 at 4:49 PM #402045MackMarksteinParticipant
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And even with Watergate, c’mon man! Lots of spooks with agendas to get Nixon out. Not sure why but he did seem set up. But we (the hippies, etc.) wanted him out too.
With Im-orangement II: We can hope there is a discovery process that reveals something, anything truthful at all, about how the Capitol breach was planned and, on the other end of things, allowed to happen. Weak security. Is the former Sgt. of Arms of the Senate or House still in hiding? I forgot which one could not be found at either his DC or Nevada properties, when sought by probably the MSM.
February 9, 2021 at 5:04 PM #402050
February 9, 2021 at 5:43 PM #402060
February 9, 2021 at 6:08 PM #402068Mr. Mickeys MomModerator
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Hell, no... I'm not giving up...
February 9, 2021 at 6:34 PM #402074HassleCatParticipant
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but the whole thing is based on a circumstantial case. Sure, we know he wanted a riot, but there’s no way to prove that. Not unless we accept the samekind of “proof” used against the Weathermen and Black Panthers. Anyway, it will be a lot of posturing and fake indignation, and we see that every day.
February 9, 2021 at 6:37 PM #402076
February 9, 2021 at 9:59 PM #402125Jan BoehmermanModerator
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The A-hole is gone…….
If you’re familiar with the history of the 3rd Reich, they tried to silence Hitler. It just made him more popular with his base.
February 9, 2021 at 10:18 PM #402128EarthartistParticipant
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I would watch if we impeached the presidents from Regun on. They all lied us into military conflicts they stole our taxes to do so. They have all taken bribes from the oligarchs whom they now all work for. In all of this they have slaughtered millions around the world, tortured, used rendition, chemical weapons, and lies soo many lies. They have now killed close to 500,000 Americans and considering the suicides, deaths from freezing to death, death by cop, I would guess the number is much higher!
February 9, 2021 at 10:23 PM #402129retired liberalParticipant
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You have to stop filling it faster than the drain can drain. Currently the drain is all but plugged by the sludge at the bottom.
Trump needs to be convicted, first by Congress, then in the various law suits for his criminal activities. Probably won’t happen though, but it needs to, as a start to clean out our government of the criminals that infest it.
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February 10, 2021 at 2:15 AM #402210whispersParticipant
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And listen to all those a$$holes? No way!!
February 10, 2021 at 2:39 AM #402215Babel 17Participant
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Less posturing, drawing actual blood, that’s the ticket!
February 10, 2021 at 3:30 AM #402221
The Democrats posted a video of the Capitol riot mixed in with parts of Trump’s speech. It seemed effective.
The Trump Defence Team also played a video.
Here was their video…YouTube…
February 10, 2021 at 5:49 AM #4022423fingerbrownParticipant
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I think I’ll watch Hello Larry reruns instead.
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