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    • #368842
      Spud Demon
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      https://www.thedailybeast.com/man-who-reportedly-gave-hunters-laptop-to-rudy-speaks-out-in-bizarre-interview

      Let’s see if I have this straight.

      1. Shopowner is an avowed Trump supporter.
      2. He won’t say whether he talked to Rudy’s people before the alleged dropoff.
      3. He thinks the laptops were dropped off by Hunter because of a Beau Biden Foundation sticker.
      4. He took it upon himself to read his customer’s e-mail.
      5. He talked to the FBI but can’t remember whether he called them or they called him.
      6. He ended up making a copy of his customer’s hard drive and giving it to Rudy’s people.

      Sometimes people really want certain things to be true so badly that they’ll believe almost anything.  Remember the October Surprise memo about GW Bush, which turned out to be a complete fake?  Dan Rather staked his career on it and lost.

      I disbelieve Ghouliani’s story, not just because he’s a known liar, but because this is all too fucking convenient.

    • #368844
      gordyfl
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      I didn’t think he would be a Biden supporter.

    • #368882
      Captain Arizona
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      And his vice presidential records will show this. Oh they don’t? Well it was just a brief encounter like ships passing in the night.

    • #368898
      lownslow
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    • #368901
      lownslow
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      1. George bush national guard story was not disproven     2.a lot of shady shit with bidens and ukraine, see glen greenwald, arron mate, intercept, cosortium news, etc

    • #368907
      djean111
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      So there’s that.  I think the whole family is corrupted by money, just like the Trumps.  I think neither Biden not Trump will make life better for the vast majority of us.  Inescapable, but not voting for it.  There is no choice for me to make between them.

      It never occurred to me to “want” this to be true.  It would not surprise me, is all.   Has fuck-all to do with my vote.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

    • #368910
      Ohio Barbarian
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      None of this crap will change any voters’ minds, mine included.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #368922
      Spud Demon
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      @ohiobarbarian No I would not expect any of this to change voters’ minds.  At this point, it’s about turnout.  If the GOP can get more of their voters enraged, with an emotional peak 2 weeks from Tuesday, it stands a chance of edging out the expected “Sleepy Joe” voters, who have been rightfully enraged for the past 4 years.


      @lownslow
      I have no doubt GWB was a mediocre Air National Guard officer at best, but the evidence was created using MS-word, which did not exist back then.

      It’s also clear that Hunter got the job because the oligarchs (we need to use that word to refer to some Americans too) thought it would give them influence with Joe.  Is there evidence it worked?  Not really.  I’m calling bullshit on the laptop.

      (edit:  I had the initials wrong.  I mean Bush 43.)

    • #368924
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      @spuddemon Most people know the Bidens are corrupt as fuck. They also know the Trumps are corrupt as fuck, but they’re even more ostentatious about it. I think their mutual corruption just cancels that issue out. The pandemic is the #1 thing, and Trump’s already lost on that issue. It’s all over but the shouting.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #368941
      HassleCat
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      “If it don’t gel, it ain’t aspic. And this don’t gel.” The laptop story is bogus. Doesn’t matter to most voters.

    • #369029
      sadoldgirl
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      It really does not matter at this point. Yet every time that

      Biden (and his family) scream that what happened in Ukraine

      was done legally and all the negative accusations were

      debunked, he is fudging the data. This whole issue was kept

      extremely quiet under the Obama administration, which

      tried to protect the then VP. Thus there never was a really

      serious investigation. Again, it does not matter now. Those

      Nixon times though with carrying cash in suitcases  are long over.

      In present times the family and great friends will help to

      cash in with the corrupt deals.

    • #369774
      Electrolyte Orchestra
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      all of that can be true AND the emails can still be genuine.

      Joe set up his kid to do investments for the most corrupt company in a nation he just toppled. Joe then got rid of the investigator of the corrupt company. This is not in dispute, and it reeks whether the emails are genuine or not.

    • #369982
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      The Biden lockdown might have been so stringent that, if the emails, photos, and videos, are real, it’s left their media allies to face ridicule for trusting in the honesty of Hunter and Joe.

      https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/biden-surrogate-on-hunter-bidens-e-mails-i-dont-think-anybody-is-saying-they-are-inauthentic/#post-369977

      It’s totally fair game now to ask every Biden surrogate to confirm or deny what that campaign spokesperson said. Ditto that for Joe Biden, and Hunter Biden. And that would be the wedge for further questions to get to the bottom of this. Voting in corruption to replace corruption is to just vote on the flavor and mouthfeel of it. “Mmm, still tastes shitty, but it doesn’t linger on the tongue.”

      And voting to re-elect Trump is to tolerate corruption. “Tastes shitty, but I’ve gotten used to it. And the MAGA cup it comes in is generously sized.”

      lol 🙂

    • #371233
      ArtfromArk
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      The Bush team maintained that the font in the documents, which are dated 1972 and 1973, was not used in typewriters back then.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #371235
      Hamlet
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      The only question that should be asked is “Are the emails genuine?”

      and no one from the Biden camp is denying that they are.

      How about we ask them?

    • #371263
      Wood
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      I’m sure Bannon is toxic to most here, but this is a good show.

      There is hard evidence of crimes, and witnesses, and it has just started.

      For 40 million dollars you would think Mueller would have found some crimes by Trump, but they couldn’t find ANYthing, they’re still trying. Meanwhile, common sense tells me that Trump wouldn’t talk about this if he were equally corrupt. Nobody seems willing to entertain the impossible: that Trump is mostly an honest guy. I’m increasingly convinced.

      You have to study him from both sides. All sides.. there are more than two.

    • #371437
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      @electrolyteorchestra I will dispute pretty much all of that.

      “Joe set up his kid”

      No, Joe didn’t do it.  The kid went out on his own, like Billy Carter.

      “to do investment”

      No, Hunter’s was supposed to advise them on corporate governance, not investment.

      “the most corrupt company”

      What metric is this based on, I wonder.

      “in a nation he just toppled.”

      As if the revolution was all Joe.  There were people protesting in Kyiv.  Give them credit, please.

      “Joe then got rid of the investigator of the corrupt company.”

      Joe was faithfully implementing Obama’s policy.  Shokin lost some key evidence in a government-shooting-of-demonstrators case, and with that, the trust of the people.  Telling him to go was a no-brainer at that point.


      @wood

      “you would think Mueller would have found some crimes by Trump”

      Mueller did find crimes, including 10 episodes of obstruction of justice.  What he did not do is recommend indictment of a sitting president, which would have been contrary to DOJ policy.

    • #371445
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      If it plays into your worldview and your politics, then it must be true. Anyone trying to poke holes in it, must be ‘fake news’, ‘radical left’, or the ‘deep state’. 🙂

      The Big Lie: "Make the lie big, Make it simple, Keep saying it, And eventually they will believe it." AH.

      "Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect." JG

      National issues (slavery/racism, income inequality, pandemics and pathetic health care, weak unions) are not solved with more states' rights. Global problems (climate change, migration, trade, war, pandemics) are not solved with more nationalism.

    • #371499
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      BHR was a partnership between Rosemont Seneca and Chinese businesses with Chinese funding of upwards of a $billion. It was formed in 2013. Soon after, Hunter and Joe took a trip to China. Maybe it was to see the Great Wall and get some authentic moo goo gai pan, but I and others think Joe was making introductions and providing assurances.

      Rosemont Seneca and BHR specialized in ‘complex’ financial transactions, as well as infrastructure and energy. There are a lot of unexplained payments to these entities.  You can think he was there only for his expertise of corporate governance if you want. I for one appreciate the laugh. Maybe Moe Greene hired Fredo for his business acumen.

      The 10% to the big guy flies in the face of Hunter stepping out on his own.

      Joe was considered the ‘public face of the Administrstion’s handling of policy in Ukraine.’   No ,  not all him. Many countries have protests, few oust their leaders. I give the people of Ukraine credit, but that call with Victoria Nuland is a smoking gun of US involvement, imo. Perhaps she just has a crystal ball and simply predicted exactly what would happen.

      There is no metric for corruption, so I will amend to extremely corrupt company. Ambassador Sondland, Col Vindman and Deputy Ambassador Williams all said Burisma was extremely corrupt during their impeachment testimonies. Williams also said that she and others she worked with all thought of the hiring of Shokin as prosecutor was a step in the right direction, that Ukraine appears to finally be getting serious about corruption.

      Joe threatened to withhold $billion in US aid to Ukraine unless Shokin was fired. Your no-brainer comment is at odds with that fact.

    • #371554
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      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/washington-post-piece-calls-on-media-to-report-hunter-biden-leaks-as-foreign-disinformation-even-if-it-probably-isnt

      An analysis piece in the Washington Post stated journalists should treat the leaked emails allegedly recovered from Hunter Biden’s laptop as a foreign disinformation campaign, even if the claim lacks evidence.

      “Take a step back, and the Russian interference of 2016 holds valuable lessons on what to do and what not to do in 2020,” wrote Thomas Rid in the Washington Post under the paper’s “Perspective” section. “We must treat the Hunter Biden leaks as if they were a foreign intelligence operation — even if they probably aren’t.”

      “What an incredible admission in the Washington Post, wow. The hubris it must take to issue journalistic marching orders this contrived in full view of the public,” Daily Caller editor Geoffrey Ingersoll said of the Washington Post’s article on Twitter.

      That’s the attitude the media to lie us into invading Iraq, to destroy Libya, and to destabilize Syria. Lying for “a good cause” is also the method of operation that got used against Senator Bernie Sanders. The media works for a deeply entrenched established, and only occasionally are they on our side. And even then they’re often a day late and a dollar short.

      They’re like Joe Biden, who supported the Iraq War but now states miraculously that he’s always been against it. Joe Biden would “save” Social Security and Medicare by making them worse for the 99%, and the media that covers his ass over this laptop would cover his ass over that.

      “Finally the adults are taking care of things” would be their spiel, as the establishment loves calling reductions in benefits as being adult.

      Biden is a habitual liar, a fraud, corrupt, and no friend to progressivism, and the establishment will aid him in covering up his tracks. So too with this laptop, imo. They are all in on their bet for him now, as they know they’ll get blamed for handing us Trump, while denying us Bernie, if Biden loses. That would make them two for two, and it would seriously erode their influence going forward in their efforts to spike progressive candidates. The media represents corporations and globalists, even those of the warmongering stripe, and they report the news in accord with their loyalty to that establishment.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/hunter-biden-alleged-sex-tape-and-images-uploaded-on-bannon-connected-chinese-website

      The clock might be ticking on how long they keep the lid on this. And even if Biden is elected, if this scandal pans out as being half as bad as it looks, the Biden supporting media would still face repercussions for their biased coverage of him in the primaries. Rather than a discredited President Biden, we could have had a very well liked and respected Bernie Sanders, and that could have made the difference in getting progressive legislation passed, and putting a hold on the Forever War.

      Take a gander.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/go-chinas-gtv-releases-videos-hunter-biden-sex-tapes-smoking-crack/

      I guess we could assume that Joe Biden never thought that China could blackmail him over Hunter Biden, or never thought about the money his family could make from doing business with China. Myself, I’ve always thought his comments were suspect. And I’m far from alone in that, yet the MSM and the Democratic party establishment united in making Joe Biden the Democratic nominee.

      Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden said Wednesday night that China was “not competition” for the U.S., prompting blowback from prominent members of both political parties.

      At an event in Iowa City, Biden was explaining why he believes concerns that China could eventually surpass the U.S. as a world superpower and economic force are overstated.

      “China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man,” the former vice president said.

      “I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They’re not competition for us,” he added.

      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-comments-downplaying-china-threat-u-s-fires-pols-n1001236

    • #372222
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      @electrolyteorchestra   Can you say more about this 10% to (I assume) Joe?  I would consider it bombshell news if JB benefited from Hunter’s deals.

      In my mind, Hunter is like Billy Carter, who was hired by Libya to lobby his brother the President.  Basically a hearty helping of family embarrassment and not at all worth holding up foreign aid over.

    • #372329
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      The 2017 email details the equity split for the new Chinese venture with “10% held by H for the Big Guy.”  Boblinski confirmed that ‘the big guy’ is Joe.

      Google it for articles about it

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