I don't understand how centrists are baffled AOC endorsed Bernie
December 29, 2019 at 2:31 PM - Views: 210 #244091
Help me understand how/why a woman of color and fierce progressive throws her immense clout behind an old white dude instead of a woman, black, Hispanic and/or gay candidate.
Flummoxed in Manhattan
— Andy Ostroy (@AndyOstroy) December 27, 2019
To me as someone who is very progressive it makes perfect sense why she would endorse Bernie Sanders. It is about policies and ideology.
December 29, 2019 at 2:37 PM #244094
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Bernie supported her, why wouldn’t she support him in return? This tweeter is an idiot.
December 29, 2019 at 2:41 PM #244095
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Because it ain’t about Identity politics. It is about shared goals. The ID warriors will never get it. Gender, Race, Age, Sexual Preference mean nothing if the candidate supports the same old policies that keep us all down.
December 29, 2019 at 3:06 PM #244098
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Bernie’s the OG!
He’s as honest as the day is long.
He doesn’t take bribes.
He genuinely cares about the people in this country (and the entire world).
He’s consistent and has been advocating for the same policies for 40 freakin’ years.
He supports M4A…no one else does.
He supports forgiving student debt.
He supports free college.
He supports children in public schools getting breakfast, lunch and dinner.
He supports abolishing ICE and never ripping babies out of the arms of their parents and throwing them in cages.
He supports giving immigrants a pathway to citizenship.
He supports overturning Citizens United.
He supports PEACE, NOT WAR.
The question should be…why are you so fucking ignorant?
December 29, 2019 at 3:07 PM #244099
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Because it is not about identity politics, you dim fuck-wit. It is about ISSUES. Really, that tweet sums up the entire disgusting Democratic Party mindset. The DNC has moved en masse to identity politics, since they have been exposed as not going to do fuck-all about issues. Easier to lie and pander. Cards on the table now.
The comments are great! Also looks like this ass supports Biden and is worth $20 million. And wonders why AOC did not support Warren, because after all, Warren is JUST LIKE BERNIE, but with female parts. That is, I believe, DNC strategery.
I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.
Bernie's ISSUES or Bust!
December 29, 2019 at 10:16 PM #244195
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@djean111 – yes. thank you. My first thoughts:
So she’s defined by her identity, but he isn’t? She’s obligated to support someone who shares her identity, but he’s not obligated to support Bernie Sanders? Um, wat???
Does he realize Tales from the Crypt was a work of FICTION…?
The opinions and personal views expressed herein are solely those of the author, and should never be taken seriously.
December 29, 2019 at 3:28 PM #244103
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Fascinating specimen, this one…
Taking a brief glance at his twitter feed and it’s almost impressive how he manages to encompass every idiotic idpol cliche so concisely in tweet after tweet, complete with the obsessive fetsishizing of women and people of color as superior moral agents. Just barf, it’s all so condescending and paternalistic, even relative to what is typical of his ilk. Perfect example of how identity politics is toxic and indefensible. Next level cringe, tbh.
And, of course, the whole package would never be complete without this hypocritical bow on top: Why I’m Supporting Joe Biden
December 29, 2019 at 3:31 PM #244104
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Because Identity politics creates a “We can do that to” justification for Trump supporters to base their politics on identity as well.
Instead of claiming we are one people, we can politically divide ourselves along racial barriers, but once we go down that road, we can’t cry foul when racists come crawling out of the woodwork. In other words, identity politics is a racism enabler.
"I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt
December 29, 2019 at 10:25 PM #244196
“identity politics is a racism enabler” +++++
just like white supremacy, only its mirror
the only idpol i’m on board with is in context of the rights of the underdog, however the ptb segment that to discriminate (e.g. race, creed, religion, nationality etc)
December 29, 2019 at 3:36 PM #244106
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Because “Centrists” are R-Lite at best, you twit. you once again prove that Twitter is for twits.
I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.
December 29, 2019 at 3:40 PM #244107
I only came across the Tweet because of Sanders supporters I follow responded to it.
— beth, purity test enthusiast (@bourgeoisalien) December 28, 2019
I also seen the same confusion expressed at the other place which prompted me to start this OP as this isn’t the first time I have seen someone express confusion.
December 29, 2019 at 3:52 PM #244111
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The centrist Democrats cant get beyond identity politics.
It’s all they know how to do.
December 29, 2019 at 4:40 PM #244118
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Love this Tweet
This one's easy. We care about policy & the future & are not into the shallow exercises of show. The closeted conservatives who call themselves "liberals" only seem to believe 1 thing:
"Everything will be fine as soon as we have more women running our secret torture prisons."
— Meghan McCain's Tears™ (@Smedley_Butler) December 28, 2019
December 29, 2019 at 10:52 PM #244209
“Everything will be fine as soon as we have more women running our secret torture prisons.”
I saw that quote earlier. It expresses the lunacy of identity politics so precisely.
“Not by the color of our skin, but the content of our characters”
December 29, 2019 at 5:05 PM #244123
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He also loves Mike Bloomberg.
Why I’m Supporting Joe Biden
Don’t get me wrong. I love many of the current candidates, especially Pete Buttigieg, Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren and, yes, even Mike Bloomberg. I believe in many of their progressive policies and that each would be an incredible president. But I don’t believe, after years of Trump’s far right-wing fanaticism, that America wants another revolution where we swing too far to the left. At least next year.
Why am I so scared? Democratic turnout is typically around 60%. That’s not enough to beat Donald Trump, especially if, with the help of Putin, another fix is in. While it’d be fabulous if democrats show up at the polls at 65%, 70%, 75% or more, I’m leaving nothing to chance. Which means we need to convert an appreciable amount of Trump supporters, moderate Republicans and independents. And in my opinion, Joe Biden is the only candidate who can do just that.
Full disclosure: if not for this extremely strategic calculation, Biden would not be my first pick. To be sure, I have nothing against old white guys (I am one). But I much prefer a woman (Warren), a person of color (Harris, Patrick) or a young gay man (Buttigieg). I also appreciate Bloomberg’s pro-biz / socially liberal positions and think he’s a valid alternative. But truthfully, I would prefer a gnat over Trump, and I would lay down in traffic for that gnat should it win the nomination. But, unfortunately, I don’t believe the gnat would win in the general.
Biden is our bridge back to sanity. To decency. To normalcy. He’s the green-thumbed gardener who can help cultivate a fertile new landscape so that we could see a woman, black, Hispanic, gay or progressive president in ‘24 or ‘28. He can win back the critical Blue Wall states of Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin (because… it’s the electoral college, stupid). He appeals to an overwhelming majority of blacks, especially in the critical Southern states. He appeals to white, working-class, non-college men and women. And like it or not, we need them to kick Donald Trump’s ass to the curb.
December 29, 2019 at 6:36 PM #244137
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Because it’s not about color or gender, it’s about CLASS jerkweed.
December 29, 2019 at 7:30 PM #244153
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People who make such statements are not flummoxed, they just don’t like the choice AOC made and use identity politics (their favorite weapon) to play “gotcha”. In their minds, it works. For the rest of us, we’re like, are you just stupid, or what?
December 29, 2019 at 9:10 PM #244183
Because they believe a brown woman should do as she is told.
It’s really that fucking simple.
December 29, 2019 at 10:33 PM #244201
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This tweet is a wonderful educational tool. It shows both how identity politics is all the Vichy Dems have, and how it is always selectively used to target their political opponents.
Observe how it implies that AOC is crazy for endorsing an old white man, but completely ignores the fact that President Bernie Sanders would be the first Jewish president; surely shattering one of those horrible glass ceilings these types love to talk about. But nooooo…it focuses only on AOC’s supposed ID politics faux pas and then turns around and endorses another old white guy who isn’t a minority of any kind!
The hypocrisy is glaring, but that sort will never acknowledge that. And they wonder why they’re despised by so many.
We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob.--Franklin Delano Roosevelt
With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner
December 29, 2019 at 11:05 PM #244221
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OH for f***’s sake. And this Andy fool is worth $20million and he supports Bye-done. An old white man demanding answers as to why a woman of color chose to support who she supported? For real? For fucking real?
December 30, 2019 at 12:00 AM #244236
He becomes worse — posted earlier today.
Your fellow Jews are getting stabbed, shot and killed in NY. When you're done politicking maybe you can tweet something about that.
Outraged Jew in NY#BernieSanders #Antisemitism https://t.co/e1hMTYJ7VT
— Andy Ostroy (@AndyOstroy) December 29, 2019
December 30, 2019 at 12:08 AM #244238
Very few things in this world more noxious than a white dude trying to display his wokeness.
December 30, 2019 at 12:14 AM #244239
nah, he’s just another propagandist.
December 30, 2019 at 1:05 AM #244246
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If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.
December 30, 2019 at 2:34 AM #244270
Even Galactus, the Devourer of Worlds agrees!
December 30, 2019 at 1:24 AM #244254
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Well no wonder he likes everyone but Bernie. Bernie’s hasn’t fallen in line like a good little Jewish man ought to.
If Ostroy is Jewish, why isn’t HE supporting the first Jewish presidential candidate? What a hypocrite.
December 30, 2019 at 1:49 AM #244260
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Another curiosity is the weird-ass dichotomy some have;
They’re crazy in love with Israel as some crusader state, yet the thought of a Jewish president rattles them.
December 30, 2019 at 2:44 AM #244272
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that’s the weird paradox in Zionism, the most anti-Jewish groups of Europe wanted nothing more than to see them all on boats heading far far away
ironically Herzl himself saw the way things might go in a new immigrant colony with Altneuland‘s Geier (himself a parody of Vienna’s mayor in a party that eventually inspired some shitty Austrian PFC): one of the few times Palestinians are mentioned in his book is when one of the few villain’s trying to pin all blames on them …
December 30, 2019 at 1:06 AM #244247
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If this Tweeting twit wants to go with the identity politics card…. then she should really stop being such an anti-semite and elect the first Jewish president, right?
(of course a Turd Wayer would probably take that comment seriously….. and vote for Bloomberg)
I didn't refuse to vote for Hillary Clinton because any goddamned Russian told me to. I refused to vote for her because she is a warmongering, election stealing, Goldman Sachs fellating, Republican WHORE. No offense to sex workers.
December 30, 2019 at 1:32 AM #244256
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It’s the same idiots that thought Hillary was worshipped by all.
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