Rocker (500 posts)January 17, 2017 at 4:15 pm
I have great respect for "Democracy Now" but don't lie for Lewis
I just watched today’s episode during which she played video of John L. Lewis lying his 3rd-way ass off on TV this past weekend. Along with the usual 3rd-way “Russia elected Trump” crap there was also no mention of Lewis’s lying for Hillary when he claimed Sanders was never at any civil rights marches.
I know Amy Goodman, like many others, has a serious case of “Trumphobia” but it’s disheartening to say the least to see her lose journalistic integrity by lying for 3rd-way propagandists.disillusioned73, OzoneTom, ronRonnie and 13 othersNJOCK, broiles, beltanefauve, senz, Sadie, Melissa, Pastiche, HubHeaver, ThinkingANew, Marylander, goodgirl, Bearian, Doremus Jessup like this
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
2 months ago #24
2 months ago #29
2 months ago #33
2 months ago #15
2 months ago #16
2 months ago #19
2 months ago #20
2 months ago #26
2 months ago #31
Late Bloomer (212 posts) (Reply to original post) January 17, 2017 at 4:25 pm
Nothing on election fraud in the primaries, but Prominent Palast after the general.
I hear that sucking sound, too, and didn’t contribute to Democracy Now on my renewal date. Too bad, so sad.
CNW (2492 posts) (Reply to original post) January 17, 2017 at 4:43 pm
2. I was a regular watcher of Democracy Now. I hardly watch it now, because . . .
In 2000 Democracy Now! departed from WBAI’s facilities amid internal battles over control of Pacifica Radio. It has broadcast ever since from studios in a converted firehouse renamed the Downtown Community Television Center (DCTV) in New York City’s Chinatown. It continues to air on Pacifica-owned and affiliated stations. It is satellite-uplinked via the Pacifica Satellite System, but also via the taxpayer-subsidized Public Radio Satellite System (PRSS). Stations can also receive the program over the Internet as broadcast-quality MP3 computer files.
Serious questions have arisen about how Democracy Now!, begun and developed with the resources of Pacifica Radio and grants from the Carnegie Corporation, the Ford Foundation, the J.M. Kaplan Fund and others, suddenly became independent and the effective property of Amy Goodman without recompense to Pacifica. This transfer apparently included valuable assets such as trademarks, ownership of years of archived programs, affiliate station access, and more.
In a contract that remains secret, Amy Goodman is also receiving $1 million per year for a five-year period that began in 2002, according to Pacifica Treasurer Jabari Zakiya, to continue doing what has become Pacifica’s flagship morning news program. This is more than double Goodman’s officially stated stipend of $440,000 per year from Pacifica Radio.
Democracy Now! receives indirect funding from George Soros, and direct funding from the Ford Foundation, the Glaser Foundation, Soros’ Open Society Institute, the Public Welfare Foundation, the Schumann Center for Media and Democracy, the Tides Foundation, and other left-leaning foundations.
[Update, July 3, 2011. I did a lot more digging about Amy Goodman after posting the brief commentary seen below on June 29. I now see that Amy is at the helm of a huge Leftist propaganda machine -of which she is the principle owner- called Democracy Now! that reported assets of over 13 million in 2007. She earns over one million a year in salary from Pacifica alone, but is also syndicated over 800 radio and TV statins and has a newspaper column carried by Hearst Publications under their subsidiary King Features. Her actual yearly earnings are probably in the 2-4 million range-and all of it tax free.
Beyond her salary, she gets direct donations to Democarcy Now! in the range of 1.9 million a year from a dozen or more Illuminated Foundations like the Ford Foundation, The Kaplan Foundation, the Pew Charitable Trust, and more than one foundation owned by George Soros. I plan to post much more information about who Amy Goodman is and how she uses the cover story or fearless reporter, muckracker, and defender of the powerless and oppressed as a stage setting to become very rich, while carrying water for her globalist paymasters with every step she takes along the gold brick road of Illumimated gatekeeper….Ken]
From Ken Adachi, Editor
ThinkingANew (1232 posts) (Reply to CNW - post #2) January 17, 2017 at 8:42 pm
3. I had no idea.
Hmm, on edit I don’t see the link to where they get the 1 Million to 1.9 million as a salary? Certainly she may make some money off her books but I doubt it is that much?
The one source I found said that she made $148,320
She *has* almost completely been one sided on Syria and Ukraine., which has been quite disappointing and she does not spend all that much time on illuminating the nature of the MIC.
The funding could explain why she has chosen not to expose events like those more fully… But who knows."(modern) newspapers publish nothing more than “weaponized text"" “When you read a newspaper article, you are reading weaponized text that is designed to affect a person just like you." Julian Assange
travelamerica (654 posts) (Reply to CNW - post #2) January 26, 2017 at 1:21 am
8. Even more information on Pacifica's coziness with the establishment here
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to CNW - post #2) January 27, 2017 at 7:51 pm
11. while i think goodman sold out, i will also note that "discover the networks"
is also part of a propaganda machine — of the right.
and they serve the self-same paymasters.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to CNW - post #2) April 21, 2017 at 2:20 am
22. discover the networks = david horowitz
Discover the Networks (originally Discover the Network) is a website run by the David Horowitz Freedom Center that focuses on the individuals, groups, and history of groups alleged to be political left wing (e.g., the network of tax-exempt groups and politicians funded by George Soros it collectively labels “The Shadow Party”). DtN was launched in 2004 and has a staff of about a dozen contributors. Its current Editor-in-Chief is David Horowitz; John Perazzo is the project’s managing editor, and Richard Poe is its investigative editor. Discover the Network is associated with FrontPageMag.com.
and ‘educate yourself’ is also of the right. here’s the ‘cites’ for their charges:
We know from articles posted to the internet many years ago that Amy was (is) funded by the CIA’s Ford Foundation and a number of years ago, I heard a KPFK radio host reveal at 3 AM in the morning -during a KPFK fund raiser-that Amy Goodman’s show was underwritten by the Rockefeller Foundation.
Amy’s brand of Illuminated propaganda is of a different caliber and flavor than the Illuminated propaganda we hear from NPR (National Public Radio), for instance, but it accomplishes the same goal: inculcating Illuminati-driven themes among listeners under the guise of news coverage.
The topics they cover include:
Current News | Introduction | Colloidal Silver | Chemtrails | Sylphs | Emerging Diseases | Forbidden Cures | Ozone | Immunity Boosting | Nutrition | Tone Gen
Mind-Body Connection | Ozone | Bioelectrification | Story on Drugs | Vaccine Dangers | Cancer | Newsletter | New World Order | NWO News | Pam Schuffert
James Casbolt | Phil Schneider | Al Bielek | Trevor Constable | Mind Control | Brice Taylor | Ted Gunderson | Metatech.org | Free Energy | Tim Hicks & Phil Ledoux |
Dr. Robert Bitzer | T. Lobsang Rampa | Ruth Drown | ZS Livingstone | David Brandt | Gary Wade | The CIA | Veterans Awaken | Tony Cartalucci in Thailand
Depleted Uranium | Dowsing | Police & Tasers | Rev. Moon | British Israel | Born Again Brainwashing | Amy Goodman Gatekeeper | Rethinking Noam Chomsky
Red Elk | Project Blue Beam | Bush Family & Nazis | Otto Skorzeny | Insights on Aliens | Cell Towers | WiFi/Cell Phone Dangers | EMF Radiation News
CPS/DCF Tyranny | Adrenal Burnout | The Women Warriors | Orgone Adventures | Dr. John Coleman | Railroading Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald | Henry Makow |
Radio Interviews | Ten Best Sites | Metal Free Dentistry | Dr. Hulda Clark Books | Planet X Sequel | ‘Undocumented Immigrants’ | Donald Marshall & Cloning Station
War on Terror | Tavistock | U.S. Concentration Camps | FEMA | Aliens Are Coming! | Guiding Principles | Global Warming | Gang Stalking | Monoatomic Gold
Eustace Mullins | Bill Cooper | Power of Thought | Spiritualism | Hope | Healing Thought Forms | Vanquish Fear | Prevent Alien/Demon Attacks | Rockefeller File | War a Racket
Letters | Sodom-LGBT Exp’d | 21 Illuminati Goals | Strawman Explained | Daily Blog | Global Warming | Hydrogen Peroxide | Protocols of Zion
not a serious reference.
I have my own doubts about goodman, but even more about your assertion that studying these sites led you to stop listening to goodman.
The Crone (3001 posts) (Reply to original post) January 17, 2017 at 11:54 pm
4. People need to realize that going
Back a full twelve years, the Democracy Now agenda even then was to do at least some of the bidding of the Democratic leadership.
No mention ever back then of the foothold the electronic voting machinery was making in election districts all across the country. Election integrity activists like Andy Stephenson were never interviewed nor was their work mentioned. So since Mainstream Media didn’t publicize the issue, it is now 2017, and hackable electronic election machinery are the norm, gerrymandering has flourished, and now, if you mention election integrity, most people agree it is important, because: Russia.
So thanks, Democracy Now!"Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy America is the only country that has real lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring in its lemonade!
kelly (428 posts) (Reply to The Crone - post #4) January 18, 2017 at 7:43 am
5. 12 years is not far enough
cant believe it has been about 20 years since the Pacifica Crisis truly erupted.
Bear in mind Pacifica has been shattered, if not destroyed, by the work of Clinton
appointees who pursued every avenue to break their bank. Now look at WBAI, if you can stand to. last I heard they were borrowing a closet to broadcast from. Thanks New York!
scumbags like Mary Francis Berry and her crowd were dead set on demolishing the once strong information resource. Before that, there was a dark turn of events in Berkeley.
KPFA removed two VERY LONG TIME and extremely effective programmers, Bill Mandel and Mama O’Shea.. O’Shea had provided a vox populi, where listeners and activists like Judi Bari could call in and organize in the blink of an eye actions against
Maxxam and other threats to Old Growth Forest.
Subsequently Bari and Daryl Cherney were pipe bombed in their Pinto by FBI affiliated terrorists, and held as their own suspects.
Once O’Shea was unceremoniously removed and gag orders were passed around,
the time slot she previously filled with love, wisdom and beauty was desecrated by the worst radio show EVER, Jerry Browns Up the People, or whatever it was. That dirt bag doesnt just shoot veterans in the face and pepper spray students in bulk. He also possesses a withering intellect and a voice that cannot make sense of anything besides his own ambition to leave the cellar where no one knew or cared who he was. Had to cancel that scintillating show to run for Mayor of Oakland, und so weiter.
Something terrible and dark had their sights set and their claws on Pacifica.
That something was Bill Clinton, and whatever ultra right information warriors were
in cahoots. Billionaires who didnt need their leveraged old growth holdings threatened,
To go after Democracy Now, now, is to miss the real crime, or perhaps,
cover it up.
I have seen Pacifica shrifted shortly by Democratic warmongering profit minded voters in the last 15 years in ways that eliminate any sympathy for the bullshit fake news infostructure they have left in place.
Limbaugh won when Clinton Deregged Telecoms.
lets get Amy!
The Crone (3001 posts) (Reply to kelly - post #5) January 18, 2017 at 6:36 pm
6. I didn't have close friends try to
Deal with KPFA, so my focus is on the energy I saw subverted by Amy Goodman. My friend, Andy Stephenson never was as angry as I became about the election integrity movement getting snubbed by Goodman, as he had no way of knowing the winter of 2004-05 that he would be dead by July 2005. He was an optimist and he was still quite young. He saw time as his friend, and he knew he had the ability to eventually get Goodman to focus on his message and give him air time. And I am glad he was happy and eager for things to proceed and didn’t know that his dreams would be ended so soon.
I take your attitude and your recounting of KPFA history very seriously. I remember Mama O’Shea and listened to her regularly.
What a wonderful person she was. And I followed the Judi Bari miscarriage of justice whenever time allowed.
And I join you in your distaste for Gov Jerry Brown. Your account of the station’s politics are being copied to my hard drive. I haven’t heard such a concise or heart felt testimony as to what went on."Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy America is the only country that has real lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring in its lemonade!
LiberalElite (4581 posts) (Reply to kelly - post #5) January 19, 2017 at 4:05 am
7. I remember that chaos well, having participated in many protests for WBAI
against the “corporate coup.” However, I haven’t listened to it in years. The ones I thought were the “good” guys further damaged it.I feel much better since I've given up hope.
senz (5174 posts) (Reply to kelly - post #5) January 28, 2017 at 9:10 am
12. I remember the Pacifica crisis too.
I was a longtime listener of KPFA going back to the 60s, a Folio subscriber from the early 80s, did not live in Berkeley, was merely a listener, not an insider, did once share a lovely meal and group discussion in Berkeley with Larry Bensky and other KPFA listeners — and was shocked when the station nearly fell apart. The regulars were furious with Mary Francis Berry; it was scary to helplessly watch it happening from a distance. I remember the station briefly going off the air amidst the battles.
I remember when Amy Goodman came on the scene. Her progressive credentials seemed very good and she had a presentation style that, though not as earthy/authentic as the regulars, seemed like she might be able to reach a wider audience, and I had just woken up to the massive corporate threat to the people of this country (mid-1990s) and was worried that the movement (“the movement,” oh my) had grown so insular that we had forgotten how to talk to suburbia out there. There was open hostility between Amy and — I think, Benksy, but I’m not sure now.
It was distressing beyond belief. And then due to distance I couldn’t get the signal anymore and lost touch with the entire scene.
It felt like a national takeover, and Pacifica was like a canary in the coal mine. It felt like something essential in this country was dying, and it had something to to do with growing corporate power, and (as usual) I could see it, feel it, but couldn’t get many people to listen.
I had no idea the fucking Clintons had anything to do with what happened at Pacifica. I still have some of the old Folios, the big newsprint ones. God what a beautiful thing it was, and what a loss.The Deep State agenda is global. Syria's up next for regime change. CrossTalk Jimmy Dore https://consortiumnews.com/ Caitlin Johnstone http://petras.lahaine.org/ information clearinghouse https://wikileaks.org/ Mike Papantonio http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/ https://www.gofundme.com/SethRich Sane Progressive https://popularresistance.org/
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to senz - post #12) April 21, 2017 at 2:32 am
24. "It felt like something essential in this country was dying"
I had a similar sense in about the same time frame. And a similar experience of feeling isolated in that even among folks who I thought would feel the same.
senz (5174 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #24) April 21, 2017 at 1:50 pm
29. Yes, it took several years for the left to identify corporate power
as a serious threat. It’s possible that some people are better at intuiting larger transformations from small changes in the usual pattern. Something like that.The Deep State agenda is global. Syria's up next for regime change. CrossTalk Jimmy Dore https://consortiumnews.com/ Caitlin Johnstone http://petras.lahaine.org/ information clearinghouse https://wikileaks.org/ Mike Papantonio http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/ https://www.gofundme.com/SethRich Sane Progressive https://popularresistance.org/
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to kelly - post #5) April 21, 2017 at 2:26 am
senz (5174 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #23) April 21, 2017 at 1:25 pm
28. The person you replied to is no longer here.
They are clearly old-time, seasoned progressives. Intelligent, too. They would have a lot to offer to discussions among progressives.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to senz - post #28) April 21, 2017 at 4:04 pm
senz (5174 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #30) April 22, 2017 at 8:03 am
33. Sorry. Sometimes "they" is used to mean "he or she."
It’s a limitation in the English language; we don’t have a neuter pronoun. I was referring to kelly, who is no longer here, unfortunately.
hollylynn winter (14 posts) (Reply to original post) January 27, 2017 at 7:39 pm
9. She jumped the shark during the general.
I am still subbed to them and RT. I do it just to monitor the proceedings but they are pretty much full-on anti-Trump. I really saw through Amy right before the election. She became just like the other fake news trying to bash Trump and get away with it as a “journalist.”
Ed Schultz–same. Weird thing is that both RT and Democracy Now seem to attract non-Dems. Indies that probably are in the Ron Paul camp. And so it’s dumb as hell to alienate that considerable segment (some of whom voted for Trump) with their shitty shilling.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to original post) January 27, 2017 at 7:48 pm
10. amy goodman is one of the few who made it out of the purges of public
she changed during that period.
proglib (127 posts) (Reply to original post) April 16, 2017 at 7:32 pm
13. There were accusations of her being a CIA agent
There were murmurs of her being a CIA agent. One point that always struck me was how she was in alignment with the State Department on specific wars of the 1990s.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to proglib - post #13) April 21, 2017 at 2:33 am
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to original post) April 16, 2017 at 7:40 pm
14. i think she lost it a while ago — in the era when the bots took over public
radio and she somehow emerged unscathed.
Rachel maddow redux
only amy used to have some cred; she made her bones in the east timor massacre
her co-correspondent allan nairn has not had such a cushy post-coup career
On March 24, 2010 it was revealed that Nairn could be facing possible detention and criminal charges in Indonesia for revealing Indonesian Military assassinations of civilian activists. An Indonesian Military spokesperson told the Jakarta Globe that the military is considering legal actions against Nairn’s publication.
In June 2013 Nairn and numerous other celebrities appeared in a video showing support for Chelsea Manning.
A June 27, 2014 report indicated that Mr. Nairn had been threatened with arrest for revealing the role of Indonesian presidential candidate Prabowo Subianto in human rights abuses.
proglib (127 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #14) April 16, 2017 at 7:58 pm
15. But she was on side of State Department on East Timor
Truth is the first casualty in any war and that was the case in East Timor too. Sad part is that she provided fodder for the State Department propaganda in East Timor. There were no other witnesses apart from her and some Australian guy who I believe was funded by some intelligence front.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to proglib - post #15) April 16, 2017 at 8:04 pm
16. how so? i don't remember hearing *anything* about east timor until
long after the fact. and the state department narrative would not have been goodman’s.
goodman and nairn reported a massacre by the forces of our guy, Suharto. the guy who overthrew the ‘commie’ Sukarno.
proglib (127 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #16) April 17, 2017 at 7:49 am
18. State Department narrative was Amy Goodman's!
Check out this Congressional hearing from 1992. Amy Goodman’s propaganda was the excuse used by the neocon warmongering Military-Industrial-Complex to wage war on Indonesia. And funny thing is they ended up putting some religious nut in power. How many times has the US gone to war because of hearsay evidence from journalists?
From Congressional Record
FOREIGN OPERATIONS, EXPORT FINANCING, AND RELATED PROGRAMS APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 1993 (House of Representatives – June 25, 1992)
Reps. Machtley (R-RI); Downey (D-NY); Hall (D-OH); Lowey (D-NY), Machtley (again); Wolf (R-VA); Reed (D-RI)
Mr. MACHTLEY. Mr. Chairman, I yield such time as he may consume to the distinguished gentleman from New York [Mr.Downey].
Mr. DOWNEY. Mr. Chairman, I want to congratulate the gentleman from Rhode Island for offering this amendment and for his concern about the Timorese.
Mr. Chairman, most Americans have probably never heard of East Timor. It is literally and figuratively on the other side of the world. But since 1975 when this former Portuguese colony was annexed by Indonesia, an estimated 200,000 people have died as a result of slaughter by Indonesian security forces or by forced starvation. Their only crime was to want independence for their country.
Because Indonesia is a friend of the United States and these events have unfolded thousands of miles away, this tragedy went unnoticed. But in the past several months this tragedy has become the focus of the international spotlight. As a group of men, women, and children gathered for a funeral procession in East Timor in November, Indonesian security forces indiscriminately opened fire on the crowd and killed an estimated 75 to 100 civilians.
This episode came to light because of the courage of Western journalists, particularly two Americans named Allan Nairn and Amy Goodman. Amy, a Long Islander, personally recounted to me how she tried to stop this massacre. She was beaten by the troops and only her American passport saved her from certain death. Amy and Allan came back to the United States to make sure that the world would know about the tragedy in East Timor.
We cannot ignore this tragedy on the other side of the world. The amendment before us today calls for a curtailment of American military assistance to Indonesia. It will send a loud and clear signal to the Indonesian Government that the events in East Timor have not gone unnoticed. It also makes a clear statement that although the world has changed, America’s moral responsibility to fight tyranny and oppression remains the same.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to proglib - post #18) April 17, 2017 at 8:19 am
19. no idea what you're talking about. suharto was in power 1968-1998,
supported and armed by the US.
There was no ‘war waged on Indonesia,’ and the US didn’t take *their* boy Sukarno out.
They helped Suharto take his predecessor Sukarno out, then kept Suharto in power for 30 years.
proglib (127 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #19) April 20, 2017 at 11:15 am
20. I'm talking about Amy Goodman providing fodder for State Department propaganda
Please read link I provided. Amy Goodman generated the propaganda for the East Timor war. As for your point on whether the US government supported or opposed Suharto, it is both. What makes you think the US government does not oppose its own partners? History is replete with such examples. Saddam Hussein, Manuel Noriega, Osama bin Laden and even the Taliban had the support of the US government before they were opposed.
Amy Goodman’s claims were used in 1997 and 1998 and could be heard as shrill propaganda during the East Timor war. The link I provided is from 1993. Amy Goodman is NOT anti-war. She is selectively anti-war and keeps up the pretense of being a progressive.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to proglib - post #20) April 20, 2017 at 6:48 pm
21. Indonesia was already occupying ET when goodman and nairn did their
reporting in 1991, and Indonesia was already being supplied by the US.
I don’t understand your point, or what you mean when you say “East Timor War”. Timor was under occupation 1975-1999. Suharto was in power 1968-1998.
In 1991, covering the independence movement in East Timor, Goodman and fellow journalist Allan Nairn were badly beaten by Indonesian soldiers after they witnessed a mass killing of Timorese demonstrators in what became known as the Dili Massacre. She has speculated that the only thing that spared her the fate of the Australian-based journalists who were killed in East Timor in 1975 was an American passport; the United States was providing military support to the Indonesian army at the time. The U.S. did not cut off military aid to Indonesia until 1993.
I’m not seeing how Goodman figures as the bad guy in this situation, as the conflict was ongoing, the US arms relationship with Indonesia was already the status quo, etc.
I read your link. Arms to Indonesia weren’t cut off, though even if they had been, I don’t see why you think that would indict goodman.
The Indonesian occupation of East Timor began in December 1975 and lasted until October 1999. ..After a small-scale civil war, the pro-independence FRETILIN…declared an independent East Timor on 28 November 1975.
Claiming that its assistance had been requested by East Timorese leaders, Indonesian military forces invaded East Timor on 7 December and by 1979 they had all but destroyed the armed resistance to the occupation…. Indonesia declared the territory a province of Indonesia (Timor Timur)…
For twenty-four years the Indonesian government subjected the people of East Timor to routine and systematic torture, sexual slavery, extrajudicial executions, massacres, and deliberate starvation… A 1999 vote to determine East Timor’s future resulted in an overwhelming majority in favour of independence, and in 2002 East Timor became an independent nation.
proglib (127 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #21) April 21, 2017 at 7:58 am
26. US establishment was behind the strife in East Timor
US establishment was always behind the strife in East Timor. When they wanted to generate propaganda to suit their position and get the support of the left, they used Amy Goodman for this purpose. With Clinton in power, they did not want the left to oppose the war. After all, we are supposed to be anti-war.
The use of Christianity to foment trouble all over the world is the typical tactic of the neocons. That is what they did in East Timor. They converted people to Christianity and once they reached a threshold, they claimed victim status (based on lies) and demanded independence. All the time, “human rights” reports were written by the State Department. Sure, you can believe what the State Department generates, but do you remember the WMD claim in Iraq?
Amy Goodman’s “report” on the alleged Dili massacre was a crucial point for the neocons to increase the American involvement.
BTW, when the Pacifica crisis broke out, she was accused of being a CIA agent. They would be people in the know. And that fits in neatly with her inconsistent positions on various wars. When Republicans go to war, she is against wars. When Third Way Democrats go to war, she is pro-war and even generates propaganda for them. Now, Third Way Democrats and Republicans are the same people.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to proglib - post #26) April 21, 2017 at 8:24 am
proglib (127 posts) (Reply to FanBoy - post #27) April 21, 2017 at 7:56 pm
31. Actually it makes a lot of sense and explains her inconsistency
I have been following the issue since the 1980s. It makes a lot of sense. I gave you evidence that Amy Goodman provided propaganda for the State Department which was used to escalate the strife. She has also been accused by people connected to Pacifica of being a CIA agent. Please look it up.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to proglib - post #31) April 22, 2017 at 12:32 am
32. You provided evidence of this:
“We cannot ignore this tragedy on the other side of the world. The amendment before us today calls for a curtailment of American military assistance to Indonesia.”
which, btw, didn’t happen.
You’re the only one styling it “propaganda for the State Department which was used to escalate the strife”
If you want to explain how goodman and nairn’s reportage of the Indonesian government (a US client state) massacre of civilians in timor, using US-supplied arms, provided propaganda for State and was used to escalate the strife, feel free.
I’m not following your logic.
broiles (704 posts) (Reply to original post) April 16, 2017 at 8:44 pm
17. We too were regular viewers and contributors.
We even did the “dinner and a show” deal. We stopped watching and contributing this year sometime before the election, but I’m not sure why. It didn’t seem relevant to me anymore. I don’t know if I changed or she did.
NJOCK (391 posts) (Reply to original post) April 22, 2017 at 8:29 am
34. When Lewis lied for Hillary
about seeing Bernie during the Civil Rights movement I was shattered. And it was another watershed moment for me in realizing the Democratic party cannot be fixed. The fact that he continues to lie about “Russia elected Trump” is hurting this country because so many people don’t realize Lewis sold his soul for HER.“The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron