I need to know how to trigger the spies to spy on me.

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    • #448450
      HassleCat
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      I always yearn for attention. I need to know the key words I should use to cause the government to spy on me. Should I search for explosive recipes? Gun parts? Enriched uranium?

      Government secretly orders Google to track anyone searching certain names, addresses, and phone numbers (msn.com)

    • #448452
      jbnw
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    • #448453
      jbnw
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      The Fourth Amendment says specifically

      The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

      This sounds like thoughtcrime – what’s the probable cause, and what’s to be seized?

      It’s a search for an idea, not a search for evidence.

      • #448481
        RufusTFirefly
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        At least that’s what Gen. Michael Hayden stubbornly insisted:

        https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4560247/user-clip-michael-hayden-rejects-concept-probable-fourth-amendment

        And believe you me, he knows!

        GEN. HAYDEN: Just to be very clear — and believe me, if there’s any amendment to the Constitution that employees of the National Security Agency are familiar with, it’s the Fourth.

        Now, what are you going to believe, the actual text of the Fourth Amendment (remember: the Constitution is “just a goddamned piece of paper”) or the former head of the NSA and the CIA, two of the finest, most upstanding organizations on the planet?

        • #448495
          jbnw
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          Thank you, @rufustfirefly . I will admit that I grew up believing that the Constitution was the supreme law of the land, but I’ve seen way too much of ignored for a long time.

          I don’t agree with our gun laws and we’ve ended up with a culture of violence because of it, but until we change “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” we’re stuck with it, and there’s not enough desire to change it.

          On the way to Cannon Beach, Oregon there’s a convenience store and gun shop. My eastern European friends are shocked that you can get a M-16 along with your gas, soda and corn dog.

          Personally, I always find it fun to stop there, but I only get the gas, soda and corn dog 😉


          @rufustfirefly

    • #448476
      Utopian Leftist
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      I had a friend whose husband worked for the CIA. She told me about Project Echelon long before it became public. One night I told her about a book I was reading about Hitler: the Spear of Destiny. Later that night I got a call from a payphone. She told me that certain words or names received automatic red flags, which required investigation. This was before the Internet, but she told me that by mentioning the name Hitler over the phone to her, that I had already warranted an investigation.

      “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ Krishnamurti
      "Given the choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voter will choose a Republican every time." ~ Harry Truman

      • #448478
        mrdmk
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        If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

        Warning DO NOT CLICK HERE!
        • #448480
          Utopian Leftist
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          That’s why she called me from the payphone: it had previously been so awkward. After I told her about the book, she had started asking me strange questions like, “But you don’t support him, right?” “You don’t have anything positive to say about him, right?” And I had been like, WTF, of course not, you know me better than that, haha.

          “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ Krishnamurti
          "Given the choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voter will choose a Republican every time." ~ Harry Truman

    • #448477
      mrdmk
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      Getting the attention of the authorities usually does not bode well for the observed.

      But if you really want to see the inside of a jail, just contact the Intercept Website and tell them you have some top secret purchasing agreements between Amazon and the CIA. I will bet you dollars to donuts that you will be needing a lawyer within 10 business days.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

      Warning DO NOT CLICK HERE!
    • #448518
      salemcourt
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      Just tell any of MSM that you have evidence of collusion between the Biden campaign and any of the three-letter organizations.

    • #448550
      snot
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      And yes, it’s totally unconstitutional, imho.

      But for gosh sakes, avoid – don’t make it any easier for the b*astards than it has to be.

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

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