If Biden is forced out, Bernie is unlikely to be the nominee.

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    I know some people are hoping the allegations of inappropriate behavior will force Joe Biden out of the race, allowing Bernie Sanders to win enough delegates to be the nominee. I would like to see this myself, but I doubt if it’s possible. I believe the DNC would intervene, cancelling or delaying primaries, perhaps even overriding primaries by going to court. The most likely scenario is to brazen it out, to hang in there until after the general election,which Biden will lose,but you can bet they have tricks up their sleeve, just waiting for the moment they need to block Bernie from getting the nomination. Still, it would be interesting to see what might happen if Biden were forced to step aside. I don’t see how he can sidestep the allegations for another six months.

    On edit. Some of you raised some good points. Chief among them is that Bernie Sanders should not drop out now. Something may or may not happen, but we are more likely every day to see a situation where Joe Biden folds his hand. Biden supporters know this, and they are screaming for Bernie to drop out now. It’s not just coincidence. They know they need to get rid of Bernie before Biden ends his campaign. If Joe quits and Bernie is still in the race, it becomes much harder to shove Bernie aside and pick Andrew Cuomo or somebody like that. They are feeling particular urgency to get Bernie out of the way before the scandal really erupts. Their worst nightmare is that Biden remains in the race long enough to lose outright to Sanders. Their second-worst nightmare is that Biden drops out before getting enough delegates to lock the nomination, leaving them in a limbo. If Biden locks it before dropping out, Bernie could be denied without too much trouble, and they could slot in whomever they want. So many possibilities all of which spell disaster. What? What’s that you say? What if Bernie gets the nomination? No good. The party will ruin it for him out of pure resentment.

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      Very dangerous position for Cuomo.  That is, to be the beating heart separating Hillary and the presidency.

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  • #294991

    Ohio Barbarian
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    The only way the DNC would swing towards Bernie would be if Obama himself decided it had to be Sanders. Even then, maybe they would’t. The Clintons would never go for it; neither would the likes of Pelosi.

    I just don’t see the Corruptocrat establishment allowing it to happen. Rigged primaries, rigged convention, anything to stop Bernie, because they obey their donors.

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    Hi hc,

    Since some poll workers have already contracted the virus, the DNC will cancel the live convention and hold a virtual convention instead.  With a virtual convention comes electronic voting.  With electronic voting comes vote manipulation.  With vote manipulation comes anyone other than Bernie.  This all whether Biden is viable or not.  One thing is for sure.  At a national level, progressive politics is dead this election cycle.


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  • #295016

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    If Bernie is not the nominee I will vote for Trump.

    I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".


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    I suppose we are being spoonfed little clots of this stuff all over the internet in the belief that we all will bow to the inevitable and vote for a fucking Vichy Dem.  Nope.  Never.   The young people I know will either stay home or vote for Trump.  They know what the Democrats have done to them.  And intend to do if in power.

    Anyone who asks, or thinks they can order me, to vote for a Democrat who is not Bernie can fuck off.

    Nope. If Bernie is not on the ballot, Green it is.

  • #295045

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    The delegate count should have been given equally to the remaining candidates in the race, in my opinion.  Then those candidates could vote for whom ever they choose at the nominating convention.

    Just who do the delegates want to send to the Oval Office?  Bernie should stay in the race.  With our economy on the ropes and all of us having no sure healthcare insurance/coverage, the delegates might even see Sanders as their own personal savior.  Delegates need clean water and air to live too.

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    Will it be Groper vs Groper in the debates?   Who will win?   The one with the most allegations?  The highest actual scores?   The best approach lines?

    At least we were spared that stuff in the 1960 Democratic primaries.   JFK vs LBJ would have been quite a contest.


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    I’m still going to hope for a miracle.  I can’t think of anyone besides Bernie from the Democratic Party that I would be willing to vote for in November but it would still be welcome to see someone with at least some level of competence in either major party.  I am probably going to vote Green regardless of who they install as nominee, although I would have to think harder about it if I lived in a state where my vote mattered.

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