Rocker (551 posts)February 8, 2017 at 5:25 pm
Indict the DNC or STFU about Trump, there's no moral ground to stand on
If election rigging is OK, along with all the propaganda that went along with it, then why the hell should anyone believe a word that comes from people that support it? Not to mention the 8 years of Obama war, Clinton nation-building and coups, drone killings, supporting corrupt banks and not holding a single person accountable for any of it.
Americans are laughing their collective asses off at the hypocritical denial coming from the very people that enabled Trump to begin with, as they now propose nothing but “resistance” after putting up with the exact same criminal shit for 8 years running!
Dems should have “resisted” the DNC election rigging and WE WOULDN’T EVEN HAVE TRUMP NOW! Sorry dems, but I’m not believing a single word that comes from your party until you show some actual resistance to corruption and election rigging.PADemD, whispers, cyberpj and 22 othersLWolf, malokvale77, Two way street, Pam, OCMI, mother earth, bvar22, Pastiche, The Crone, tk2kewl, HubHeaver, tularetom, nc4bo, Entrepreneur, Doremus Jessup, historylovr, Abelenkpe, em77, Peace Patriot, ozoneman, Colors of the Rainbow, arendt like this
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ozoneman (549 posts) (Reply to original post) February 8, 2017 at 5:40 pm
1. I think Bernie took a stand the other day.
He can’t do it alone, but maybe the millions that voted for him can. Let’s organize a million person march on the DNC. Wouldn’t that be great!
LuckyDog (640 posts) (Reply to original post) February 8, 2017 at 5:58 pm
3. These Dems?
House Democrats Kick Off Retreat By Insisting They Matter
“No one in America ought to think this party is in retreat.”
BALTIMORE ― House Democrats opened their annual retreat on Wednesday by fighting the narrative that they don’t matter or can’t provide a check on President Donald Trump.
One by one, party leaders told reporters that they can be just as loud as their colleagues in the Senate.
“There’s somewhat buzz in the press, ‘Oh, you Democrats, you don’t have any power in the House of Representatives. You’re going to be irrelevant,’” said House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer (D-Md.). “We’re not irrelevant.”
Democrats are “energized” despite taking a beating in November, he added.
“No one in America ought to think this party is in retreat,” Hoyer said, noting Democrats won a plurality of votes in the presidential election.
The defiant opening statements indicate that this gathering ― which happens every year and is meant to give members a chance to regroup ― is shaping up to be a little different than it has in the past.
Rep. Linda Sanchez (D-Calif.) said Democrats would focus on “kicking a little ass for the working class” ― her personal title for the conference.
If you want chuckles, read the comments at the end.
FanBoy (7985 posts) (Reply to LuckyDog - post #3) February 8, 2017 at 6:26 pm
4. god when is pelosi going to die? she looks one facelift away from the
The democrats are clueless shills:
Indeed, many of the sessions Democrats plan to attend over the three-day retreat show that they’re aware they need to revamp their image. (yeah, just their “image,” not their actual practices.)
A session titled “Reaching all Americans” will feature professors from the University of California, Berkeley and University of Wisconsin-Madison, (that’s the ticket — some professors will tell you what to do, like you shills didn’t already know — not that you plan on doing squat cause you’re addicted to money and power and actually doing something real would fuck with your connect)…..
Rep. Tim Walz (D-Minn.) plans to lead a session on “Why Veterans supported Trump and the path forward,” and Rep. Kathy Castor (D-Fla.) is preparing to moderate a discussion on “After the Women’s March: Empowering the grassroots.”
But the way forward won’t be all about resisting the administration, Rep. Joe Crowley (D-N.Y.) pointed out. Pressed on what tools they have in the House, Crowley said Democrats will continue to use procedural maneuvers to force Republicans into symbolic votes. (Yeah, symbolism. Forget the nuts and bolts real votes, elections, etc. — symbolism will show them what’s what!)
Crowley tried on Tuesday to pressure Republicans to vote on a resolution criticizing the White House’s Holocaust remembrance statement for not specifically mentioning the 6 million Jews who were killed. (Jews at < 10% of the population, and tend more to the right on economic issues, more so all the time — plus this is another “words” thing — whom is this symbolic vote directed toward? Doesn’t seem like a winner for the masses, and surely not on the bread and butter most voters focus on)
“We want our Republican colleagues to understand that what the White House does, they either have to answer for or they have to condemn,” Crowley said Wednesday. “It’s not just about the White House, it’s also about our Republican colleagues.” (wtf?)
I’d go on but its all so sick-making
The Crone (3157 posts) (Reply to LuckyDog - post #3) February 9, 2017 at 11:51 am
7. Only 25% of all Americans are Dem loyalists. And even
HRC staffers are out there RW-ing up their resumes, hoping to jump onto the Trump Express.
Party, thy middle name is irrelevant."Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy America is the only country that has real lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring in its lemonade!
mother earth (383 posts) (Reply to The Crone - post #7) February 9, 2017 at 5:04 pm
8. Well said! ntDemocracy, in this late stage of capitalism, has been replaced with a system of legalized bribery. All branches of government, including the courts, along with the systems of entertainment and news, are wholly owned subsidiaries of the corporate state. Electoral politics are elaborate puppet shows.- Chris Hedges
Entrepreneur (2133 posts) (Reply to original post) February 8, 2017 at 7:15 pm
5. Well put. +1000.“The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith
The Crone (3157 posts) (Reply to original post) February 9, 2017 at 11:49 am
6. Voting activists back in 2004 explained and explained
And explained to Dem leadership about the hazards of the electronic voting machinery and the ability for anyone to hack into it.
The Dem leadership was not interested. With a few exceptions among folks like Bill Bradley and Lynn Woolsey. (Lynn was the Rep for Northern San Francisco bay area district.)
They also wanted to appear clueless about gerrymandering, voting list purges and other techniques for getting the results a tyrannical party might want.
And at first I thought they were clueless. But once I saw the results of Dem leadership meddling in Calif election processes, I realized they were doing exactly what the republicans did – employing the various corrupt methods to help Big Industry get the results they wanted to have happen. (The Gm ballot initiative that would have required all grocery stores to label the foods that are Gm comes to mind as I type this. The election “victory for Monsanto” came about, even though one million ballots remained uncounted. And I don’t think the ballots EVER did get counted.)"Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy America is the only country that has real lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring in its lemonade!
Two way street (2569 posts) (Reply to original post) February 11, 2017 at 7:31 am
9. Independents are now becoming Third Way Independent Candidates
pushing a corporate interest of ill will on the We the People.
Hope Bernie separates the Progressive Independents from the Third Way Independents now bringing the New Democratic Party and the Republican Party together as One.
(This source is also part of another thread on this forum.)
Thanks Rocker. The DNC has destroyed the social progressive platform and is looking to pick up the conservative vulture conservatism.Draft Bernie for a people's party becomes Draft Bernie for a people's single-payer party-Medicare for All.
The Crone (3157 posts) (Reply to original post) February 11, 2017 at 6:58 pm
10. Your OP is irrefutable, given that
just over the last few weeks, the court in San Diego County finally ruled that election officials had flipped the vote count AWAY from Bernie and over to Hillary. So the vote count that had stood at 58% for Hillary Clinton and 42% for Bernie now is reversed.
Certainly would appear that the electronic, fully hackable black box voting machinery came under the full control of the Russians, doesn’t it? Sarcasm intended.