Iraqi politicians, fuming after Trump's visit, demand U.S. forces leave the country

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    • #5767
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Los Angeles Times:

      Iraqi leaders are demanding U.S. troops leave the country after President Trump’s surprise visit to Iraq, which lawmakers characterized as an arrogant affront to the nation’s sovereignty.

      Trump made a three-hour sojourn in Iraq, traveling to Asad Air Base, some 115 miles northwest of Baghdad, but he did not meet with any Iraqi officials. And in Iraq’s parliament, that perceived slight left both Washington’s allies and its foes fuming.

      The visit confirmed U.S. disregard for other nations’ sovereignty, said Hamdillah Kaabi, spokesman for nationalist Muqtada Sadr’s Sairoon party. Sadr, the Shiite Muslim cleric whose loyalists battled U.S. forces during the 2003 invasion of Iraq, now heads parliament’s largest bloc. He campaigned to limit the influence of both Washington and Tehran in Iraq’s affairs. Kaabi said Thursday the party had long sought to end Washington’s “arrogance and disrespect” in its dealings with Iraq.

      Former Prime Minister Haider Abadi, the leader who worked most closely with the U.S.-led coalition against Islamic State, said in a statement Thursday that he rejected the “method of Trump’s visit,” and that “it was not appropriate to diplomatic mores and to relations with sovereign states.”

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    • #6112
      Laadeedaa
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      it would be a straight path to Gitmo.

      (Unless that Muslim leader was from the House of Saud, UAE, Bahrain, Abu Dhabi . . . )

      • #6319
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        What American law would permit that?

        In general, there’s all kinds of pomp and circumstance when leaders visit each others’ countries.  But if a leader of Bangladesh or Nigeria or wherever wanted to travel as a “normal person” and fly Econ Class and land in Kansas City and stroll around and go to a mosque, how on earth would that land them in Gitmo or get them in any legal trouble whatsoever?  I imagine it would just be the same as Trump in Iraq: They would hear,  “You should have told us you were coming, because it’s polite, and because your visit causes security headaches if you hold rallies or if someone tries to kill you.”  There wouldn’t be criminal charges, just a diplomatic kerfuffle.

        Seems to me that Iraq’s leaders feel snubbed because protocol wasn’t followed.  Trump come to their country but didn’t make any effort to drink tea with them, offer presents, or thank them for their efforts against ISIS.  I don’t think either Iraq or the US has laws that imprison a visiting dignitary for being rude.

    • #6454
      RealityRedux
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      when we need them?

      Formally RealityCheck

      • #6680
        Laadeedaa
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        :sarcasm:

        I should have used it. Lesson learned.

        That said, as to your belief that  ” . . . Iraq’s leaders feel snubbed because protocol wasn’t followed.  Trump come to their country but didn’t make any effort to drink tea with them, offer presents, or thank them for their efforts against ISIS . . . “

        Perhaps Iraqi leaders are irked because protocol wasn’t followed.  Just as many politicos and residents here AND in Israel were irked when John Boehner invited NuttyYahoo to speak to Congress without notifying Obomber.

        There are actually such things as “protocol” and “diplomacy” in the world in which Trumpmeister currently resides. Presumably, he has DoS staff to advise him on such matters. Failure to do so is just another example of our utter disregard of such sensitive issues, and the sovereignty of other nations, particularly those in the ME.

        If he was properly advised, and decided to plunder and forge ahead for his Christmas day photo op  anyway, all the more shame on him:  sadly, HE represents us on the world’s stage.

        Your disdain for Muslim countries in this and other posts is, btw, duly noted.

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      Who the cuck cares about other nations feelings? Since when did that matter?

      Forcing people to work without pay is akin to slavery.

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