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  • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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    IS HELL FREEZING OVER?! Largest DNC Donor Supports Sander's Platform!

    The Democrats’ Biggest Donor Says the Party is Blowing It and Should Get Behind Bernie’s Platform.

    JAKE HOROWITZ
    Jul 16th 2017 10:15AM

    https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/07/16/the-democrats-biggest-donor-says-the-party-is-blowing-it-and-sh/23032495/

    ~snip

    “When people say Bernie is crazy, no. Bernie is talking about inequality. That is the burning issue in the United States.”

    That is a message that progressives, and particularly Bernie Sanders supporters, have been trying to drive home with the leadership of the Democratic party since Hillary Clinton’s brutal loss in the 2016 presidential race — often, some have felt, to little avail. But it’s no longer a message coming from outside the establishment: it’s now the opinion of Tom Steyer, the largest donor to the Democratic party.

    Mic recently caught up with Steyer, a California hedge fund billionaire who spent a whopping $87 million on Democratic candidates and causes in 2016 and endorsed Clinton after the primaries, to discuss the state of play for Democrats in the Trump era — the good, bad and yes, the ugly. Today, Steyer is an unabashed supporter of Sanders’ progressive vision.”

    Wikipedia Page on Tom Steyer

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Steyer

    Neera Tanden and John Podesta et al are having conniptions. Holy Guacamole!!!!!!

    Oh, Please Be True!!!

    He is on Twitter if you are interested!

    edit for broken link–

     

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    • Mom Cat (8778 posts)
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      1. You just made my day!

      :bananas:

           NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        3. Wow! That's great! I so hope this is for reals….

        When I read the part about single payer I about lost it. Neera and John and all those at CAP are in for a rude awakening!

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • ThouArtThat (4091 posts)
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      2. Billionaires Know The Ship Is Sinking – Good News If True

      eom

      "In America Today, Power Corrupts and Money Corrupts Absolutely" - Anonymous  
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        4. Yep. He even supports a living wage…

        he ‘gets’ income inequality…we should ask him to join JPR (in his free time).  :lol:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
      • Fordfairlanestl (684 posts)
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        5. The ship is sinking?

        Gee, I wonder who you can thank for this? Clinton? Pelosi? Schumer, Obama?  Damn, the list of corrupt corporate establishment America politicians just keeps going on , and on , and on………  Anyone that supports Citizens United, is GUILTY. Period!!!

        There is no one like Bernie Sanders. NO ONE!!! The cause is right!!  The time is NOW!!!
        • spud demon (885 posts)
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          51. Citizens United was about an anti-Clinton movie

          and whether it constituted an illegal contribution to whoever ran against Herself.  All of the people on your list opposed CU at the time based on tactical politics.

          Bernie and other real progressives oppose it on principle.

          Cubs, Google+, Weird Al, BMW
      • Enthusiast (8387 posts)
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        17. They should know it by now after all the water is up to their shins.

        They know the rest of the developed world has universal heath care.

        "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church
    • LaaDeeDaaVA (1601 posts)
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      6. This is GREAT – he is talkin the talk

      but the report released by his group in partnership with Center for American Progress troubles me a bit.  I understand these groups have interests and policies that overlap – so maybe it’s nothing, but I have  no trust in Neera Tanden, Prez & CEO of Center for American Progress —- as Berners,  :heart:  why the hell should we?  The mention of Tanden regarding anything Bernie makes the hair on my neck go up.

      That said, great news so far – TRUST IS EARNED.  Let’s hope for the best and let’s see how it goes.

      AND

      For Steyer, that message must start with inequality, not jobs. “Before you freak out on the jobs question, which everyone loves to do, understand that we [only] have 4.3% unemployment,” Steyer said.

      “But what we do have is a whole bunch of people who have jobs they can’t live on,” he added, a reference to the thinking behind the Fight for $15 and other progressive campaigns to raise working class wages.

      To that end, Steyer, who chairs the Fair Shake Commission on Inequality in California, just released a new report in partnership with the Center for American Progress proposing a host of progressive policies to address inequality, including increased infrastructure spending, investments in clean energy and higher pay for contract workers . . .

       

      Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.   A.J. Liebling

      revolt
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        8. I agree completely. I remember Neera from the PodestaLeaks where

        she was infamous so of course she was selected to be the new head of CAP as a reward and that was after she co-chaired the stupendous failed Clinton/Kaine transition team.  :lol:

        If true, this is earth shattering for the rest of the big donors and we’ll know before too much longer if they are going to either embrace Steyer or shun him.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
      • NJOCK (419 posts)
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        48. I gave it a rec but

        I completely agree LaaDeeDaa!

        “The first revolution is when you change your mind about how you look at things, and see there might be another way to look at it that you have not been shown. What you see later on is the results of that, but that revolution, that change that takes place will not be televised.” -Gil Scott-Heron
    • retired liberal (1382 posts)
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      7. I don't care about what he is saying now… What is his history?

      He could be a ringer telling us what he thinks we want to hear. You know, in the same vain as Obama the first time around – Good talk, bad walk.

      No matter how cynical you become, it's never enough to keep up. Lily Tomlin
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        10. He has a solid record as an environmentalist putting his money where his mouth

        is—opposed Keystone and donated millions to carbon reduction legislation that ultimately failed. Check out his Wiki page in the link above…

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • CalGoldenBear (395 posts)
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      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        13. Interesting links, thank you. I have hope for Mr. Hanauer also.

        It sound be the beginning of ‘political awakening’. Let’s hope.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
        • LaaDeeDaaVA (1601 posts)
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          22. Hanauer was the great Ted-talk guy who warned the 1% of

          his word, our “pitchforks.”

          Yeah, he gets it – and it sounds as though Steyer gets it, too.

          :fistbump:

           

          Freedom of the press is guaranteed only to those who own one.   A.J. Liebling

          revolt
      • mmonk (1317 posts)
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        14. Nick gets it because he understands the principles of demand

        .

        • CalGoldenBear (395 posts)
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          32. Supply and demand is basic Economics 101.

          The U.S> has a “consumer economy” where individual spending accounts for the lion’s share of gross domestic product (GDP).

          For more, take a look at the following:

          https://www.thebalance.com/components-of-gdp-explanation-formula-and-chart-3306015

          From the article:  “The formula to calculate the components of GDP is Y = C + I + G + X.  That stands for:  GDP = Consumption + Investment + Government + X (net exports, or imports minus exports.)

          “In 2016, the U.S. GDP was 69 percent personal consumption, 16 percent business investment, 18 percent government spending and negative 3 percent net exports.”  (Emphasis added).

          The bulk of that consumption is from the 99% who spend much, even most, of any increases in take-home pay, unlike the 1% who tend to stash it away (or perhaps invest it).  So the Repub (or neoliberal) cookbook recipe of tax cut, tax cut, tax cut panders to their big donors (As long-time House Speaker “Tip” O’Neill put it, “Money is the mother’s milk of politics), who can contribute to their election/reelection, but does little for the overall economy.

          But both parties are wedded to “catering to the rich” rather than passing legislation that benefits the majority of Americans, who would then VOTE for their legislators/elected officials.  As I say from time to time, “Money doesn’t vote, people do.”  If you engage in a no-message campaign like Shrillary and Jon Ossoff, folks will stay home rather than spend hours in line to vote.

          • mmonk (1317 posts)
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            55. Well done.

            My collegiate learning was in economics and government (over 200 hrs worth).

      • eridani (1896 posts)
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        42. Hanauer caucused in person in 2008 for Obama

        The line of least resistance would have been to fill in the absentee caucus form.

        You've heard of the Good Witch of the North and the Wicked Witch of the West, right?  I'm the Morally Ambiguous Witch of the Northwest.
        • CalGoldenBear (395 posts)
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          43. I'm not aware that there's any state Dem party that allows a person

          to caucus in absentia or by proxy.

          Certainly, in HI, the caucus sites were overwhelmed in 2008 by folks who wanted to vote for our “local boy,” Hawaii-born Barack Obama.  But you definitely had to be there in person to caucus and vote for either Obama or Shrillary.

          • eridani (1896 posts)
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            44. The WA State Dem party has done that for many years

            If you can’t attend for reasons of religious obligation, disability, or military service abroad, you could file an affidavit.  Of course you would not have the option of changing candidates if your first choice didn’t get enough votes, nor the choice to get other attendees to go along with you.  In 2016, employment conflict was added as a reason.

            You've heard of the Good Witch of the North and the Wicked Witch of the West, right?  I'm the Morally Ambiguous Witch of the Northwest.
    • MannyGoldstein (2257 posts)
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      11. I got drunk with a very rich private equity guy a year ago

      A lifelong Republican, but he wanted Bernie to win because 99% are in terrible shape. Between Hillary and Trump, he said he’d go for Trump just to change things up because Hillary was clearly a disaster, Trump might at least shake things up.

      "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it" - Upton Sinclair
    • so far from heaven (10170 posts)
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      12. Perhaps this is a case of changing who you trust.

      And the ones you listen to. One of the craziest scientific articles I’ve read in a long time suggests why people accept garbage instead of factual truth.

      Maybe this guy can actually think.

      "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        16. I read he didn't contribute to Herself until

        after the ‘convention’ where she was officially selected. His first candidate was Mondale (gaah) and he supported the nominee ever since. I think he sees the writing on the wall. :lol:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • LiberalElite (4785 posts)
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      19. I'd better keep an eye on my cats. They may

      decide to mate with dogs.😻

      I feel much better since I've given up hope
    • djean111 (4211 posts)
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      20. That's great – but I will wait to see who he actually gives money to,

      and supports.  There is gonna be a fucking HUGE amount of Bernie references in 2018 (and 2020, depending on who is running).   Just to reel in Bernie’s supporters.  A lot of it will be cynical lip service, IMO, because the Democratic Party seems dead set against enacting any of Bernie’s policies.  they just want the support, the enthusiasm, the donations, and the votes.   Remember, adding Bernie’s progressive policies to the (pointless) Democratic Platform was considered a giant concession.  Not an improvement.

      You think the only reason that people won't vote for a warmongering Third Way fracking-enabling cluster bomb throwing H-1B increasing lying pandering corporate and Wall Street shill who says she has no problem putting abortion rights on the table is because we are mad about Bernie?  Um, nope.
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        23. Oh I agree the leadership of the Democratic Party is rotten to the core. But–

        they are controlled by the donors, right? If the donors start using their control it seems to me the rotten ones will either leave, be told to leave or they will have their ‘Come to Jesus Donor’ moment and be forced to support whomever the donors want supported. I think this person is tired of throwing good money after bad and we don’t know who he supported in the primary in California. I’ve looked around the web and all I could find was that he didn’t commit until after the convention. Who knows?

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • jhart3333 (103 posts)
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      24. I don't give a shit what this guy thinks.

      We don’t need him. And we don’t need his money.

      • Snort McDork (2316 posts)
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        25. If it helps Bernie, So be it.

        • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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          39. HA! Thread winner! Hiya Snort!

          :hi:

               "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
          • Snort McDork (2316 posts)
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            40. Hi

            Hello

    • RufusTFirefly (1177 posts)
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      26. Careful! This guy's father was a partner with Sullivan and Cromwell

      And Tom Steyer went to Yale.

      If it looks like the Company and quacks like the Company…

      Is the Clinton Foundation the Dulles Brother’s Sullivan and Cromwell?

      A Law Unto Itself: The Untold Story of the Law Firm of Sullivan and Cromwell

      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        33. Well that's interesting. I'm willing to watch and see how this pans out.

        I read somewhere he is considering a run for governor of CA, and that would worth paying attention to just to see where he stands on all the issues. Thanks.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
      • Major Hogwash (2354 posts)
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        56. Yeah, but their show on Broadway closed after only 3 weeks!!

        Sullivan dropped Cromwell after that debacle and focused on promoting odd vaudeville acts along the Borscht belt after the curtains came down on their only corroboration, “Depression Ain’t Funny, But Let’s Laugh Anyway”, near the end of 1932.

    • Stryder (324 posts)
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      27. Well, there's an idea.

      Wish we’d a thought of that.
      Oh wait…
      Welcome to the party Tom.

      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        34. Ha! I dunno—stranger things have happened. I hope it's sincere and

        would welcome him too!

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
        • Stryder (324 posts)
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          53. One can hope.

          But “Largest DNC donor” does give me pause.

    • PFunk1 (1083 posts)
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      28. Great news. But they should have done it sooner.

      But I’m glad now the big wigs are finally starting to catch on.  Still, it seems like catch up.  It’s like they want to get behind the trend before others do.  Like indies and (shudder) sane repugs.

      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        35. Maybe better late than never? Did you see what Cascadiance wrote in

        reply #31? This gives me hope. I Demexited last July and don’t trust the Party but this could be the beginning of some sanity finally hitting home. Thanks!

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • Robot X (104 posts)
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      29. Ironically they have no where else to go.

      They see the writing on the wall. They can flush their money straight down the toilet with establishment DNC losers or give it to oily Republicans like Ted Cruz. And who really wants Ted Cruz’s sloppy seconds after Sheldon Aldelson has had his way with him?

      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        36. Well, maybe he is tired of throwing it all away. I read somewhere he is

        considering a run for governor of Ca and that would certainly expose his platform. Not gonna touch the last sentence…gaah!

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
      • Xyzse (2534 posts)
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        45. OMG… Your imagery is amazing.

        Makes me cringe all over, while being unable to figure out if I should laugh or cry.

    • tonyl (838 posts)
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      30. I hope he knows that Senator Sanders has enunciated a platform which ..

      includes, amongst it’s other aims; getting the money OUT of politics in the US. He would do well, if he wishes to help, to use his power and influence to resist attempts to tamper with the freedoms of the internet (I think these horrific human beings are intent on putting in controls that would allow them to mess with future elections and STOP the will of the people).

      So, if he is fair dinkum about the issues, he should fight for the people on the net neutrality issue.

      Because you cant have integrity occasionally
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        37. You are absolutely correct. We need to find out more about him.

        :hi:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • cascadiance (2192 posts)
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      31. His money helped me get a Democrat instead of a Republican state senator…

      … right after I moved a few years ago to Bruce Starr’s district then.  It was a damn close election, and I was one of around 50 or so new votes the Democrat got after I moved to win.  Oregon has one of the few states with democratic majorities in both senate and state legislature.  We can thank Steyer for the help there.

      http://www.oregonlive.com/mapes/index.ssf/2014/11/food_companies_billionaires_ma.html

       

       

       

      Vote AGAINST the race to the bottom by both corporate parties who seek to screw workers over globally!                                                                                  
      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        38. Wow. That is most encouraging.His NextGen Climate Action Committee

        is doing good work. Most encouraging, thanks Cascadiance.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • Matthew76 (244 posts)
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      41. Great news!

      and thanks for the positive article. When something good happens, we should celebrate it.

      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        47. Thanks, Matthew76. Yep, I'm taking it s a good sign too.

        Hoping he will not be the only one and will keep a watchful eye for others who may start to see the light.  :lol:

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
    • Xyzse (2534 posts)
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      46. I was happy to see this last night.

      He has made quite a few points in what he said that clearly resonates.  Particularly in regards to jobs.

      People are working, working hard 2-3 jobs just to make a living.  When they say creating jobs, they also need to know that it has to be a livable wage.  People are getting bankrupt slowly, each month inching towards disaster.

      So yes, I am glad that someone gave voice to that issue.

      • Land of Enchantment (6799 posts)
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        49. Yes, me too. He seems to recognize that our critical issues need to be addressed

        (income inequality, climate change and a living wage are a few he has talked about) and this stunned me. I am hopeful that more like him will surface and start standing up for the rest of us.

             "Hope is the feathered thing that perches in your heart." ~ Emily Dickinson  
        • Xyzse (2534 posts)
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          50. Which is why I find this a positive.

          Well, to tell the truth, I think there are more of them out there.  It is just that people make a decision on who would do the best for the country.  Unfortunately, Democrats have proven themselves to be less than adequate(to put it mildly) to the task.

    • MistaP (5331 posts)
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      52. yeah, many donors are going to be wanting to see WINS

      there’s plenty of donors who’re paying to keep populism out of the DP, but many businessmen hate hangers-on whose only purpose is to suck cash–they’re signs of a doomed company, like how the sickest animals have the most ticks

      Sandernismo is surprisingly business-friendly (single-payer, postal banking): there’s always money to be made in crippling and extorting the poorest, but many take a more macroeconomic approach for a healthy overall economy

      http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
      • Jefferson23 (4934 posts)
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        54. +1. Well stated.

        ****