Is sending humans to Mars a stupid idea?
December 24, 2018 at 10:35 AM - Views: 76 #4455HassleCatParticipant
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A former astronaut says the robot missions are fine, but sending people and talking of colonizing Mars are not good ideas. I’m not sure. We, as a nation, surely could stand to do Something Big, and there would be plenty of tech spinoffs. The problem is, this is not 1962 and Kennedy is not president, and we are no longer inspired by big ideas. We’re a different nation now, a people fragmented by decades of identity politics and I-got-mine-so-screw-you thinking. All proposals and ideas are met with, “What’s in it for me?” The priority now is waging perpetual war and invading weaker nations. Instead of space exploration, we get Space Force, which sounds like the title of a spoof movie. Sending someone to Mars would be a good long-term project, but we don’t do long-term projects anymore.
December 24, 2018 at 10:46 AM #4459Mr. Mickeys MomModerator
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I’ve been catching the series on Nat Geo cable channel titled, Mars…
It makes an excellent example of what we should not do. What we should do is get our own planet in order, else there will always be a profit motive along with political motivation to rape a planet that probably gives evidence that it was already made inhabitable by some mishap.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:00 AM #4467retired liberalParticipant
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On the moon, it would be much easier to rescue them
ifwhen things go pear shape and starts sliding sideways down the chute.
This Mars first is suicide mission. As of yet, we can’t even pull off the equivalent in a sealed bubble on this planet.
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December 24, 2018 at 1:50 PM #4531
December 24, 2018 at 10:54 AM #4463N2DocParticipant
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Not as dumb as propping up evil despots in Central America to keep profits up for corporations.
We would learn a great deal overcoming the obstacles to a Mars mission. Just like we did leading up to the moon missions. Probably a lot of things we can’t predict at the moment.
December 24, 2018 at 11:00 AM #4465EnthusiastParticipant
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That is the thing about new discoveries. We can never predict what form they will take.
As it is the pursuit of perpetual war is getting pretty stale as the nation now has the create enemies because we have run out of them. I guess they think we don’t notice.
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December 24, 2018 at 11:11 AM #4470Snort McDorkParticipant
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December 24, 2018 at 12:03 PM #4498jwirrParticipant
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We have so many things that need money here at home. This could easily wait. Space is not going anywhere.
December 24, 2018 at 1:18 PM #4520chknltlParticipant
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…would be to send an entire party of corpra-dems to Mars and let Hillary become their first Martian Pesident.
Snark aside, i worry that should we not somehow get viable and self sustaining colonies on Mars, Mars’s moons, our moon and maybe some of our larger asteroids, humanity’s window for doing so may close permanently.
December 24, 2018 at 1:57 PM #4536SatanParticipant
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Now I don’t want to be mean about it… they can take what ever supplies with them they can fit in the space ship and if they can grow their own food like Matt Damon did in that movie, more power to them. But just get them off this planet.
Of course I’m talking about the inheritance leech 1% here. And the one thing they cannot take with them… their money. Not like it would do them any good on Mars anyway.
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December 24, 2018 at 2:49 PM #4559
December 24, 2018 at 2:50 PM #4560D503Participant
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I guess you all have never played DOOM.
You’d see what happens there.
On a lighter note, the 1%-ers would cry about the $$$ spent not waging war.
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December 24, 2018 at 3:31 PM #4581
December 24, 2018 at 3:36 PM #4584Ohio BarbarianModerator
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I’m all for investing in learning new abstract knowledge. The effort itself leads to new scientific breakthroughs and technologies, and with climate change already here we’re going to need all of the help we can get from science.
We as a species can easily afford it, too. We just have to stop investing so much time and energy in killing each other to do it.
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December 24, 2018 at 6:27 PM #464499th MonkeyParticipant
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First things first, such as Medicare for All, free eduction, $20 min. wage, meaningful prison reform, and the like.
Like someone upstring said, space will still be there, once we take care of priorities here first.
Yah yah, what about the Russians? To which I say tough bananas. Let the Ruskies drain their treasury for a change.
December 24, 2018 at 10:47 PM #4716jerry611Participant
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Many of our issues here on Earth are never going to be solved. I’m sorry, but I am just being realistic. We are going to destroy ourselves if we limit ourselves to that. We also can’t put all innovation on hold until we solve something else. Should the Wright brothers have not try to fly and instead try to fight global poverty? Should we have not gone to the moon because our country was too caught up in a civil rights debate? Should we stop searching for a cure for cancer until we get everyone free healthcare?
Our species is also extremely lucky….so far. We have evolved during a period of stability. Stability both on Earth and in our solar system. The fossil and geological records though show it has not always been this way. And it won’t stay this way. Mother Nature can be more violent than humans have ever witnessed.
Yes…space will always be there. But we won’t.
December 25, 2018 at 1:14 AM #4743
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