Is sending humans to Mars a stupid idea?

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    • #4455
      HassleCat
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      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/astronaut-human-mission-to-mars-stupid/ar-BBRmFKg?ocid=spartandhp

      A former astronaut says the robot missions are fine, but sending people and talking of colonizing Mars are not good ideas. I’m not sure. We, as a nation, surely could stand to do Something Big, and there would be plenty of tech spinoffs. The problem is, this is not 1962 and Kennedy is not president, and we are no longer inspired by big ideas. We’re a different nation now, a people fragmented by decades of identity politics and I-got-mine-so-screw-you thinking. All proposals and ideas are met with, “What’s in it for me?” The priority now is waging perpetual war and invading weaker nations. Instead of space exploration, we get Space Force, which sounds like the title of a spoof movie. Sending someone to Mars would be a good long-term project, but we don’t do long-term projects anymore.

       

    • #4459
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      I’ve been catching the series on Nat Geo cable channel titled, Mars…

      It makes an excellent example of what we should not do. What we should do is get our own planet in order, else there will always be a profit motive along with political motivation to rape a planet that probably gives evidence that it was already made inhabitable by some mishap.

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

      • #4467
        retired liberal
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        On the moon, it would be much easier to rescue them if when things go pear shape and starts sliding sideways down the chute.
        This Mars first is suicide mission. As of yet, we can’t even pull off the equivalent in a sealed bubble on this planet.

        We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
        If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
        Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
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      • #4531
        Bluesuedeshoes
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      N2Doc
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      Not as dumb as propping up evil despots in Central America to keep profits up for corporations.

      We would learn a great deal overcoming the obstacles to a Mars mission. Just like we did leading up to the moon missions. Probably a lot of things we can’t predict at the moment.

      • #4465
        Enthusiast
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        That is the thing about new discoveries. We can never predict what form they will take.

        As it is the pursuit of perpetual war is getting pretty stale as the nation now has the create enemies because we have run out of them. I guess they think we don’t notice.

        I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".

        Me

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      Snort McDork
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      I'm Snort McDork and I approved this message.

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    • #4498
      jwirr
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      We have so many things that need money here at home. This could easily wait. Space is not going anywhere.

      jwirr

    • #4520
      chknltl
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      …would be to send an entire party of corpra-dems to Mars and let Hillary become their first Martian Pesident.

      Snark aside, i worry that should we not somehow get viable and self sustaining colonies on Mars, Mars’s moons, our moon and maybe some of our larger asteroids, humanity’s window for doing so may close permanently.

       

    • #4536
      Satan
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      Now I don’t want to be mean about it… they can take what ever supplies with them they can fit in the space ship and if they can grow their own food like Matt Damon did in that movie, more power to them. But just get them off this planet.

      Of course I’m talking about the inheritance leech 1% here. And the one thing they cannot take with them… their money. Not like it would do them any good on Mars anyway.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #4559
      Spirochete
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      In fact – let’s send the entire republican party there today.  And leave them there…

    • #4560
      D503
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      I guess you all have never played DOOM.

      You’d see what happens there.

      On a lighter note, the 1%-ers would cry about the $$$ spent not waging war.

      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." - Asimov; "If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Fud's First Law of Opposition

    • #4581
      Cleita
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      We need to heal our planet first. Then the moon would be a good place to learn how to live off world in a hostile environment. Maybe then we could think of Mars or other  places in the solar system to colonize.

    • #4584
      Ohio Barbarian
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      I’m all for investing in learning new abstract knowledge. The effort itself leads to new scientific breakthroughs and technologies, and with climate change already here we’re going to need all of the help we can get from science.

      We as a species can easily afford it, too. We just have to stop investing so much time and energy in killing each other to do it.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

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    • #4644
      99th Monkey
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      First things first, such as Medicare for All, free eduction, $20 min. wage, meaningful prison reform, and the like.

      Like someone upstring said, space will still be there, once we take care of priorities here first.

      Yah yah, what about the Russians?   To which I say tough bananas.  Let the Ruskies drain their treasury for a change.

    • #4716
      jerry611
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      Many of our issues here on Earth are never going to be solved. I’m sorry, but I am just being realistic. We are going to destroy ourselves if we limit ourselves to that. We also can’t put all innovation on hold until we solve something else. Should the Wright brothers have not try to fly and instead try to fight global poverty? Should we have not gone to the moon because our country was too caught up in a civil rights debate? Should we stop searching for a cure for cancer until we get everyone free healthcare?

      Our species is also extremely lucky….so far. We have evolved during a period of stability. Stability both on Earth and in our solar system. The fossil and geological records though show it has not always been this way. And it won’t stay this way. Mother Nature can be more violent than humans have ever witnessed.

      Yes…space will always be there. But we won’t.

    • #4743
      3fingerbrown
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      just not anytime soon. What for?

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

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      eridani
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      xx

      Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

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