Home Main Forums DNC/Third-way/Leaks/Crimes & Misdemeanors It aint a "purity test," it's a job evaluation

  • yurbud (88 posts)
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    It aint a "purity test," it's a job evaluation


    If the people with modest houses hire the same landscaper to take care of their yard as the massive mansions across the street, and notice that the landscaper hardly ever works on their yard, and half the time he shows up, he throws the trimmings from the big house on their lawn, it is not a purity test to say they are doing a shitty job.

    It’s a job evaluation.

    Likewise, it is not a defense of the shitty job to say they are doing more for us than a gang of con men, who sometimes convince some neighbors to pay for lawn care, and then never deliver at all, or “take care of” their lawn with a flame thrower.

    If elected Democrats and party operatives don’t take criticism from the base of voters seriously–DEMOCRATIC PARTY voters, not swing or Republican voters, they will continue to struggle and just barely win.

    Also, if you are not loyal to those who working and middle class people who are members of your own party, why would swing and conservative voters expect you to take care of them?

    The New Dem/DLC/Third Way wing of the party does push for some progressive change. The problem is, too often the progressive change is structured to give the financial sector or some other corporate interest a big chunk of the money that was supposed to go a program to help the rest of us, when the government itself could deliver the program more cheaply and effectively.

    A good example is Obamacare. Many aspects of the private insurance part were huge improvements. But the Medicare portion is more efficient and costs are driven up by the avarice of spoiled trust fund babies. Those insurance companies don’t even seem grateful that Democrats delivered tens of millions of new customers to them, and keep jacking up prices to pad their profits.

    If the only consideration was delivering healthcare at a good price to average Americans, there should have been a timetable for all health insurance companies to rein in their overhead or Medicare would start expanding until it covered everyone.

    That kind of accountability would make giving the private sector a role more palatable because it would make it clear that in “public private partnerships,” the public part was in the driver’s seat.

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  • Charles (1633 posts)
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    1. Great post yurbud /nt

  • immoderate (271 posts)
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    2. I saw this post at 'another site.'

    Where I am not allowed to post because I said essentially the same thing. They are overjoyed there because the have eliminated all the dissension.


    • yurbud (88 posts)
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      3. I've slipped through the cracks for now. I'm sure my days are numbered

      • The Crone (3157 posts)
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        11. Anyone who has endured two or three decades

        Of abuse as a middle class  adult in the system knows the prescribed bromide of “Women’s Rights” “More Immigration” “Stay the Course with Keeping ObamaCare” is not going to get close to offering the overhaul of the Established System one bit. Of course, bulletin boards like SV have to maintain an iron control. Can’t have any real critical thinking going on!

        Already I am being told by the local #DemsEntry “New Dems” club that I am sort of an “Outlier” who shouldn’t bother with the meetings.

        The fact that there is an enforced mantra that “every ‘real progressive’ already agrees  with every simplified meme now enforced” shows the rigidity inherent in our political system.

        "Let us not seek the Republican answer nor the Democratic answer but the right answer." John F. Kennedy   America is the only country that has real   lemons in its furniture polish, and artificial lemon flavoring  in its lemonade!
    • MistaP (6446 posts)
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      8. OTOH eliminating all dissent and warning signals is how they lost 2016, too

      too bad we’re the ones who have to deal with the fallout

      http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
  • NuttyFluffers (1774 posts)
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    4. "purity test" is projection on their part. all loyalty to them, none for you.

    they are entitled, comfortable elitists who enjoy lording plantation politics over the plebes.

    well, fuck that, and fuck them!

    • yurbud (88 posts)
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      10. ouch! too true.

  • LWolf (94 posts)
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    5. And the fix is in

    to keep everyone faced outward, blaming everyone and everything else but themselves and the corruption within the party, rather than a job evaluation.

    • Two way street (2569 posts)
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      6. I am at a loss to recall any Democratic accomplishments that were made

      over the past 20 years-since the Third Way ax of Glass-Steagall.  After 150 years, feudalism, slavery, and Baron robbery has returned (from 1865- to the present First 100 Days).  Republicans say, fuck no, to moral regulation but you can keep your Bible, its just a gawd damn piece of paper just like the Constitution of the United States of America.

      Draft Bernie for a people's party becomes Draft Bernie for a people's single-payer party-Medicare for All.
      • LWolf (94 posts)
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        12. I know

        that establishment Democrats can trot out a list of accomplishments; the trouble is that those accomplishments were made at the cost of more needed changes, and are used to obscure the erosion of progress on those needed changes.

  • MistaP (6446 posts)
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    7. it's a competency hearing

    Democrats during Obama’s presidency lost 11 governorships, 13 U.S. Senate seats, 69 House seats, and 913 state legislative seats and 30 state legislative chambers

    http://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/ (Third Way = Bell Curve)
    • yurbud (88 posts)
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      9. good point.