It is FOX News

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    • #346996
      Mick063
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      It was always about FOX News. It was FOX that created Trump. It will be FOX that creates more Trumps. It is FOX that gets QAnon nuts into Congress. It is Fox that casts shade on the election process. The President’s morning brief doesn’t come from his intelligence agencies, it comes from FOX and Friends.

      Are you having difficulty with understanding why a third of America is staunchly behind the most unqualified and dangerous man to ever occupy the White House? The answer is FOX News.

      As long as FOX News is alive, a fascist takeover is persistently present.

      So let’s get things straight here. There will be more Trumps. More dangerous Trumps that are smarter and better able to disguise fascism as main stream. FOX has made fascism a main stream ideology.

      There has never been a greater need to categorize and ridicule FOX viewers. The first question I ask is if the main source of information comes from FOX. If the answer is yes, the green light comes on to chastise and ridicule. Not convert or persuade. They are too far gone for that. Chastise and ridicule.

      If you want America to remain a liberal Democracy, you must join in. Categorize, chastise, and ridicule.

      "I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt

    • #347000
      incognito
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      just as dangerous, if not moreso, Right Wing radio which took over our airwaves in the 1980’s.

      Rush Limpballs

      Sean Insannity

      Bill O’lielly

      Glenn Beck

      Michael Savage

      and that list goes on and on and on because Right Wing Clear Channel bought up every radio station they could get their hands on.

      It’s all anyone hears when driving. Unless they have Satellite radio.

       

    • #347003
      So Far From Heaven
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      Here is the problem in a nutshell:

      “Are you having difficulty with understanding why a third of America is staunchly behind the most unqualified and dangerous man to ever occupy the White House?”

      No. I’m not having that difficulty at all. It’s called retarded. I know I’m not allowed to use that term, but fuck it. It’s pure unadulterated ignorance and stupidity, NOT FOX. These fucking retards were there before FOX existed and will still be there after it collapses.

      Place the blame where it belongs, on the individuals that believe the garbage that FOX spews out for their entertainment. Without them, FOX doesn’t exist.

    • #347005
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      “Place the blame where it belongs, on the individuals”

      they exist in the same constellation, the propagandists and the propagandized.

      it’s not just one or the other.

      you forgot the propaganda sponsors, too.  $$$

    • #347006
      jbnw
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      and the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which removed the limits on media ownership. It used to be a total of 7 newspapers, television and radio stations – removing this limit is what made mass corporate propaganda possible.

    • #347015
      ArtfromArk
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      for his killing of the Fairness Doctrine. And Hate Radio came into existence during Reagan’s term as well, spurred in part by Reagan’s open disdain for liberals and minorities.


      @jbnw

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #347016
      jbnw
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      @artfromark But I used to expect better from Democrats.

    • #347021
      ArtfromArk
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      I was so excited when Clinton was elected, and I think in his very earliest days he actually tried to change things for the better. I think the constant threat of legal action over his sexual peccadillos was like a sword of Damocles over his head that finally moved him over to the Dark Side. Of course, his wife hobnobbing with rich Republicans didn’t help much, either. Carpet of gold, or carpet of bombs, I guess.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #347029
      doh1304
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      I assign blame to Nelson Rockefeller. He threw money at “welfare” (without spending a penny on improving education or health or housing or anything positive) and then police and prisons. He created a racist backlash then exacerbated it. And then Norman Lear. If Archie Bunker had been characterized as the inhuman racist buffoon he was the show would have only lasted a few years, instead he “humanized” Archie. The show became a long running hit, but in 1980 people accepted Reagan, because racism was seen as a character trait “liberals” didn’t like rather than the evil it is.

    • #347046
      NV Wino
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      Underpay the teachers, privatize the schools, overcrowd the classrooms, restrict the curriculum and I double dog guarantee you critical thinking skills go out the window leaving a vast amount of the population susceptible to all of the things mention in the above posts. Teach critical thinking skills and you will lessen the number of susceptible people, which in turn will reduce the number of media outlets targeting those people.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #347049
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Rupert Murdoch was just another capitalist. So long as Americans believe capitalism is the best system possible, they will be susceptible to things like Fox News, and MSNBC for that matter.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #347057
      ArtfromArk
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      Did “Meathead” go “full John Birch Society” on the show, or in real life? I quit watching the show after the 2nd season.


      @mistap

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #347058
      MizzGrizz
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      They’re just Fox for people who think they’re too smart to watch Fox.

    • #347087
      Red Cloud
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      I had my transistor radio desperately trying to catch air waves from my home town.  The family drove through what are now red states of the Plains and Rocky Mountains. Almost every channel was some religious moron frightening the Bejeezus out of people, that the end is nigh, repent you sinners. So what has happened is the politics learned from these master manipulators of fear and switched the theme to suite their current goals.

    • #348128
      ArtfromArk
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      Baseball games, contemporary music, local news and weather, the CBS Radio Mystery Theater. I also  listened to Jack Wheeler’s talk show on KDKA-Pittsburgh for a while, mainly because it was on an “exotic” station that I could receive after I got a GE AM-FM radio for Christmas 1973. Before that, my favorite “exotic” radio station was WWL-New Orleans, which at the time was a classical/easy listening 50,000 watt station that I could receive all the way up in the NW corner of  Arkansas on a cheap $4 transistor radio at night. ” This is 50,000 watt WWL, broadcasting to you from the Roosevelt Hotel in New Orleans, Louisiana.” Sponsored by T. Pitari’s Fine Restaurant, which featured a menu of exotic foods such as hippopotamus steaks and turtle soup au sherry.

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #348137
      ArtfromArk
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      In retrospect, I hated the way that Norman Lear portrayed the ARCH-Conservative ARCHie Bunker in a positive light as a hard-working all-American, while portraying “Meathead” as a liberal leach who could never hold a steady job (and who was later divorced by Gloria after she got her own show).


      @doh1304

      “There’s a new spirit abroad in the land. The old days of ‘grab and greed’ are on their way out. We’re beginning to think of what we owe the other fellow, not just what we’re compelled to give him. The time’s coming… when we shan’t be able to fill our bellies in comfort while others go hungry, sleep in warm beds while others shiver in the cold.... And God willing, we’ll live to see that day…” Basil Rathbone,"Sherlock Holmes Faces Death" (Universal 1943)

    • #348143
      RufusTFirefly
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      @mizzgrizz

      Well said. Anyone who recognizes Fox for the propaganda outlet it is but self-righteously hangs on every word that’s said on MSDNC is in danger of being delusional.

      We’re being played by our corporate overlords.

    • #348151
      MizzGrizz
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      One segment watches Fox,one segment watches MSNBC and both segments are taught to despise each other.Meanwhile nothing gets done because both segments of the population are too busy being at each other’s throats over the lies each of their favorite outlets are telling.

      Divide and conquer—works every time.

    • #348241
      srobert
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      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLIPUDlRBFA

      The guy holding up both puppets is the corporate (fascist) sponsors of both Fox on the right, and CNN or MSNBC on the “left”.

    • #348244
      sonofspy777
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      that Lear’s show was pure parody of Archie and RW thought…. or maybe that was ANOTHER “All in the Family”???

      “Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
      ~Samuel Clemens

    • #348266
      djean111
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      The show was inspired by a show in England – Til Death Do us Part.  I actually never thought Archie came out on top.  Yeah, Meathead was a joke, but then Gloria was kinda whiny.  I thought Edith always prevailed, directly or indirectly.  She was pretty awesomely sly about getting around Archie, I thought.


      @artfromark

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

    • #348365
      Cold Mountain Trail
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      nope, that was the all in the family i remember too.

      he wasn’t billed as the hero.

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