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Home Main Forums General Discussion "It Looked Like Armageddon:" Fires And Explosions Burn Dozens Of Homes

  • PADemD (1699 posts)
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    "It Looked Like Armageddon:" Fires And Explosions Burn Dozens Of Homes

    Near Boston

    Tens of thousands of people were urged to evacuate as dozens of homes and buildings were engulfed in flames.

    Dozens of homes were engulfed in flames Thursday afternoon after a series of large explosions rocked neighborhoods near Boston.

    The fires were reported in the towns of Lawrence, North Andover, and surrounding communities about 30 miles north of central Boston. Massachusetts State Police tweetedthat there were 70 different incidents in the area.

    Though the cause of the fires was still under investigation Thursday evening, Andover Town Manager Andrew Flanagan said in an interview on CNN that “it’s our understanding that it has to do with gas pressure.” As many as 33,000 people in the town were urged to evacuate, and Flanagan said he had never seen any comparable situation.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimdalrympleii/nearly-two-fires-and-explosions-are-burning-homes-near

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  • Peace Patriot (4344 posts)
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    1. Sounds like it's similar to what happened in San Bruno, CA, in '10. Aging infra-

    -structure, no maintenance, lots of profit to execs and investors, plenty of money for wars of choice and 1,000 U.S. military bases around the world, for throwing millions of minor drug offenders to prison, and for spying on all of us, and no money for safe gas lines and other infrastructure.

    San Bruno pipeline explosion

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Bruno_pipeline_explosion

    …the death toll was eight people.[7] The United States Geological Survey registered the explosion and resulting shock wave as a magnitude 1.1 earthquake.[8][9] Eyewitnesses reported the initial blast “had a wall of fire more than 1,000 feet high”.

    – – –

    The explosion and resulting fire leveled 35 houses and damaged many more.

    Same thing last year, PG&E – same profiteering and fucked up national priorities – and more AGING INFRASTRUCTURE – in the devastating Santa Rosa and other fires in CA.  No maintenance of power lines.

    Cal Fire: PG&E equipment caused 12 Northern California fires during October firestorm

    https://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/8413929-181/cal-fire-pge-equipment-caused

    The utility was in violation of state code on eight of those fires, failing to clear brush around its lines and properly maintain its power equipment, according to state fire investigators.

    • GZeusH (3921 posts)
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      2. Gas lines in Russia are above ground

      and they’re yellow.  A bit unsightly, but you get used to them in plain sight.  I imagine if you look up and see flames shooting out of a piece, that it needs to be fixed.   Maybe the aesthetics of being underground, out of sight, has drawbacks.

      в NewYorkTimese нет известии, и в WaPo нет правды.
      • mrdmk (717 posts)

        5. There are advantages and disadvantages to put utilities underground or above

        ground.

        It is a great space saver having utilities underground. Also like you said, you have to look at them when above ground. Being underground, the utility is protected from the above ground environment.

        Russia is a very cold region, to dig a trench and bury a pipe only during the summer months makes a project very expensive, not to mention the soil preparation is tremendous.  Another above ground pipeline is the Alaskan Oil Pipeline. It makes sense to have utilities above ground in cold regions because it is just more practical and can be fixed anytime of the year without digging it up.

        With proper installation and maintenance, utility companies know a transmission device will last (x) number of years whether above or below ground.

        In this case, with the San Bruno natural gas line blowing up, the problem was PG&E did not do a proper installation. This also needs to be mentioned, the pipeline was installed in the year of 1949. With the electrical fires in Northern California, once again PG&E did not do the proper maintenance. Here is some inside information about PG&E, they are a fucked-up company to their employees and customers. More to the point, everyone knows it.

        Pacific Gas and Electric Co. diverted more than $100 million in gas safety and operations money collected from customers over a 15-year period and spent it for other purposes, including profit for stockholders and bonuses for executives, according to a pair of state-ordered reports released Thursday.

        An independent audit and a staff report issued by the California Public Utilities Commission depicted a poorly led company well-heeled in its gas operations and more concerned with profit than safety.

        The documents link a deficient PG&E safety culture – with its “focus on financial performance” – to the pipeline explosion in San Bruno on Sept. 9, 2010, that killed eight people and destroyed 38 homes.

        The “low priority” the company gave to pipeline safety during the three years leading up to the San Bruno blast was “well outside industry practice – even during times of corporate austerity programs,” said the audit by Overland Consulting of Leawood, Kan.

        link:  https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/PG-E-diverted-safety-money-for-profit-bonuses-2500175.php

        Another company in California has also been the cross-hairs of the public for terrible business practices. Sempra Energy owns both Southern California Gas Company (SoCalGas) and San Diego Gas & Electric (SDG&E). Back in 2005, Sempra was making record profits, yet the company did not proper maintenance on the electric lines which resulted in major fires in San Diego County. Sempra again in 2016, Aliso Canyon which is used for natural underground storage (without storage tanks) was leaking. The problem was not being fixed in a timely fashion, instead campaign contributions was the corporate solution.

        Sempra Energy, the parent company of Southern California Gas Co., whose well in Aliso Canyon has been leaking gas for three months, has poured millions of dollars into local, state and federal elections for more than a decade, records show.

        And as the leak reached its 100th day of spewing methane into the air this weekend, concerns over health effects such as nosebleeds and nausea, relocations and property values have prompted questions over how much leaders dealing with the issue have been influenced by the corporate giant.

        At local meetings, where residents have gathered to talk about a leak now being called the largest ever of its kind, some residents have questioned whether public agencies are responding quickly enough, and at a recent protest before an air district hearing board decision on a nuisance abatement order against SoCalGas, attendees sounded off about the cash donations made by Sempra Energy to local politicians, including elected officials who have advocated for affected constituents since the leak.

        “It sounds like business as usual,” said Felicia Bander, 60, of West Los Angeles, who is among the environmental activists calling for closure of the Aliso Canyon Storage Facility above Porter Ranch. “Corporations have way too much power to run our government, way too much control over the decisions being made.”

        link:  https://www.dailynews.com/2016/01/31/sempra-dollars-have-flowed-to-leaders-but-in-midst-of-gas-leak-they-say-theyre-still-tough/

        Looking for information about this tragedy, this was found. Union Working were locked out by Columbia Gas of Massachusetts (parent company, NiSource):

        https://postimg.cc/image/mgaq2bir9/

         

         

        • dreamnightwind (1680 posts)
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          6. Awesome post, thanks for all of that!

        • daleanime (3484 posts)

          7. Thanks for the info!

          When the going gets tough, the tough take care of each other
        • chknltl (947 posts)
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          9. What about burying gas pipelines across active faultlines?

          Up in Bellingham a gas pipeline ran across Whatcom Creek.

          Photographing the waterfalls along the 3 or so miles below where that pipeline crossed, I discovered that Whatcom Creek was on an obvious faultline.

          Years after, that pipeline sprung a leak.  Two boys playing, (according to the official story), with matches near the creek a mile or so below the pipeline caused the whole of Whatcom creek to erupt in flames killing the boys.

          I have often wondered if that faultline had caused the pipeline to leak due to microtremers that are common throughout Whatcom County.

          Since then i have often wondered about the wisdom of burying oil or gas pipes across active faultlines.

          • mrdmk (717 posts)

            10. That would be a disadvantage

        • Cleita (3362 posts)

          11. We have the same problem with PG & E here on the Central Coast

          of California. Every time it rains hard or the wind blows hard something brings down the above ground lines and we go without electricity sometimes for days. PG & E does minimal maintenance instead of investing in infrastructure. Their faulty lines have been responsible for many of the fires in California. Because of the number of lawsuits this fire season would have bankrupted PG & E, the customers are being asked to bail them out.

          Instead we should replace them with either an electric cooperative run by and for the customers or a public utility run by the county. Yet, our pols prefers the other way.

           

  • snot (1393 posts)
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    3. Horrible!

    https://www.battleforthenet.com/                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         1% “To Do” list:

    1.  Control banking; 2.  Control communications (including “news” media); 3.  Control the government; 4.  Control education ; ....

  • avaistheone1 (1449 posts)
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    4. Customary next question:

    Who knew?

      I'm not a conspiracy theorist - I'm a conspiracy analyst.   Gore Vidal      
  • daleanime (3484 posts)

    8. When you spend most of your budget killing people…..

    that’s what you do. :grr:

    When the going gets tough, the tough take care of each other