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  • Marym625 (30738 posts)

    It's Been a Helluva Run!

    Manny and I are stepping down. We’ll no longer be the owners of JackpineRadicals. LandofEnchantment and SoFarFromheaven invested in a portion of the site a little over a year ago. At this time, we’re handing them the entire site. They  are now the new owners.

    This has been the most important thing I’ve ever done. We raised close to $28,000 for Bernie in 2016, we made sure the truth was spread, we changed minds and hearts.

    We also made sure that people understand there is a choice, there is a way and that we cannot allow the powers that be to continue with their dog and pony show. We let them know that there’s more than one way. That their way is not the only way. Their way is all about, and always about, money in their pockets. That’s no longer acceptable and we had something to do with that.

    We may not have always succeeded but we sure tried very hard to keep to the morality of our namesake, JackpineRadical, aka Jim Peterson. Jim was so kind, smart and never attacked people he “spoke” to.  It’s why we’ve succeeded

    This is unbelievably sad and difficult for both Manny and me. But we no longer have the time to devote to the site that is needed. And yes, Manny has been around this whole time. Just because he didn’t post didn’t mean he stopped caring or stopped paying attention. He kept this joint running and those hamsters working!

    Each and every one of you mean so much to me. Some of you have become close friends, people I love dearly. All of you helped cause change and I have no doubt, will continue to do so.

    There are too many wonderful people here to mention each of you separately. Every member has brought something unique to this forum. Every person who fought through the fun, sometimes horror, of being a moderator or admin helped make this the best political site around. I’m grateful to you all

    I would be remiss if I didn’t mention one of those dear friends who has been an admin here since day one. Area Woman. She stuck with us through thick and thin. Always fair, always thoughtful and just a beautiful person. Thank you!

    As far as Manny goes, I cannot possibly say what’s in my heart. We celebrated some fantastic accomplishments, lasted through some tough times and harsh disagreements only to become closer because of it. Manny, you mean the world to me. I love you

    It is with a heavy heart but with confidence in your continued work that we step aside. I know you’re in good hands.

    All our love, thanks, hope and wish for peace in our time


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    • Bernice Ta (665 posts)

      1. Oh, Mary!

      Thank you so much for all you’ve done to start this place and to keep it on track with your vision –and by you, I mean you, Manny and everyone else who worked so hard for this site.

      I hope you guys are going to stick around, it wouldn’t be the same without you. Hugs and best wishes for whatever the future holds. Love ya!

    • glinda (2981 posts)

      2. Oh gosh. Thank you so very very much for rebuilding us a home. Love u guys.

      Animals know more than we do. - Native American proverb
    • 99thMonkey (4816 posts)

      3. YUUGE thank you Mary (& Manny) for all your great work. Gonna miss you

      “The friends of democracy should keep their eyes anxiously fixed in this direction [at Corporate America]; for if ever a permanent inequality of conditions and aristocracy again penetrate into the world, it may be predicted that this is the channel by which they will enter.”  ~Alexis De Tocqueville (1835)
    • BillZBubb (4077 posts)

      4. Say it ain't so!

      You and Manny put a lot (and I mean a LOT) of time and effort into JPR. You got this ship built, out of the shipyard, and floating on the open sea. As always thank you so much.

      I’m sure you’ve placed the ownership in good hands. I look forward to your continuing participation here.



      DemExit! Don't give the Democrats a dime. Don't identify as a Democrat. Drop Democratic identification below 20%. Only then will they support true progressive policy. Until then, corporate money rules.
    • NV Wino (9461 posts)

      5. Mary and Manny thanks for giving us a refuge

      I hope you stick around and post when your time allows.

        “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee  
    • winter is coming (1357 posts)

      6. Thank you for all the work you've done to give us a good place to be.

      Hope you hang around, even if other people are doing the heavy lifting.

    • A little weird (965 posts)

      7. Thank you!

      I really appreciate all the hard work you both put in – you have truly built something to be proud of.  I’m glad to know you’re passing the reins to LandofEnchantment and SoFarFromheaven.  I don’t know them personally but I’ve admired their posts and I’m confident they will do a great job.  I hope we still see you around even if you aren’t the head honchos anymore.

    • Punxsutawney (3217 posts)

      8. Thanks Mary, you are right to be very proud of what you've accomplished.

      To neoliberals, everyone and everything are disposable. -  Chris Hedges  “The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness" - J.K. Galbraith
    • pacalo (177 posts)

      9. Thanks, Mary & Manny, for creating a place for us & for your diligence

      in keeping the standards high.

      I don’t post much any more due to my lack of faith in politicians, but I do have faith that Land of Enchantment & So Far From Heaven will continue making JPR a welcoming place for those who value mature discussion.

      Best of luck to the new owners & to Mary & Manny.



    • boxcar joe (63 posts)

      10. Well done, thou good and faithful servant.

    • aspirant (2213 posts)

      11. Thank you MaryM

      I will always remember your Progressive Summit 2017, nice job !!!

    • dreamnightwind (1787 posts)

      12. Thank you both so much!

      You set this site up when DU was dumping all over us and we needed an ideologically correct home, I will never forget that.

      Maybe there will be a 4thWayMannie, and Mary maybe you will continue to grace us with your presence. Best to both of you whatever you do!

    • Beebee (1841 posts)

      13. Thank you Mary

      for the good times we had and for all of your patience.


      "confrontation of the self is as important as with others. we have to be ready to be surprised by unexpected rhetoric, or even possible communion, with those previously seen as impossible." NuttyFluffers
    • Enthusiast (16201 posts)

      14. I am so sorry to hear this. I wish you the very best, Mary.

      "I got a great big pointed fang Which is my Zomby Toof My right foot's bigger than my other one is Like a reg'lar Zomby Hoof If I raid your dormitorium Don't try to remain aloof . . ." The Zombie Woof
    • ctsnowman (1245 posts)

      15. Hopefully you both will post more now that you have more time?

      Army and Navy veteran and a proud liberal.
    • Ohio Barbarian (13460 posts)

      16. Thanks, Mary, you did a Very Good Thing in building this place. Hope to see

      you here in the future.

      No man ought to stay poor so another man can get rich. --Newton Knight
    • Phlem (901 posts)

      17. Thank You So Much Mary. You've and Manny have done an excellent job!!!

    • TIME TO PANIC (988 posts)

      18. Thank You for creating a tolerant place where I could learn and vent!

      "We Tortured Some Folks" - Barack Obama
    • cal33 (105 posts)

      19. Mary, thanks for correcting the error that caused some difficulty when

      I first joined this group.  All the best to you.

    • jwirr (5464 posts)

      20. So thankful for what you have done here of JPR and so thankful for befriending

      me. Love you very much.

    • ThomPaine (6948 posts)

      21. Can only post in "Title" so, thank you both soooo much. We needed JPR and it's

      • ThomPaine (6948 posts)

        22. not easy running a board of crazy progressives. Love you guys.

    • antigop (1054 posts)

      23. Thank you for everything, Mary! Wishing you all the best! nt

    • NothingcleverjustRay (528 posts)

      24. Thanks for the place of refuge. Much appreciation for the both of you

    • WillyT (12548 posts)

      25. Thanks Mary !!!



    • KenTanker0us (544 posts)

      26. As I stated in Manny's thread,

      ..you are heroes. You gave us safe harbor. Simple thank-yous are inadequate. But they are offered nonetheless.

      I used to be Navarth at DU. I left DU when it became polluted with Hillary pushers. The party bosses fucked us, and Bernie, just like they did with Henry Wallace in 1944.
    • Pam (2192 posts)

      27. Good luck in your future endeavors

    • Scott Crowder (1125 posts)
      Suspended for violating TOS

      28. say it aint so Mary

      I will always hold you in the highest regard.  Thank you for your fairness and patience.

      Think of all the “moderates” who, throughout history, have failed to oppose state-sanctioned aggression, oppression, and abuse, from slavery to child labor, while maligning those who call for change as dangerous and misguided, violent radicals. And yet, in retrospect, when a renewed social contract is established as the new normal, the unlawful actions that brought about these societal shifts are turned into mythical tales of nationalistic heroism and dates for kids to memorize at school.
    • Zopilote (313 posts)

      29. Thanks so much Mary!

      and all the best to you and Manny.


      The journey of a thousand miles begins with me trying to remember where I left my damn keys...  
    • TRex (5736 posts)

      30. You two created a helluva good website! There are no others that are better.

      Oh sweety, no just no, when I or those of us here talk about the ultra rich - it is NOT you! Not you by a longshot, oh my God did you think...no way you actually thought we meant you? Lord, this country is full of rich stupid people and you seem to be one of the worst. No sweety, you are just a low paid pawn to those ultra rich we talk about. They are wrecking the world, you are an enabler and I understand not being able to sleep at night. I wouldn't either, selling out our future. You have kids right?  
    • HubHeaver (396 posts)

      31. Mary and Manny: Thank you for this great site. We will miss you.

    • Blackspade (4590 posts)

      32. Thank you so much.

      Good luck on your future endeavors!

      You are staying around though?

    • ZimInSeattle (2885 posts)

      33. Thanks Mary. Best wishes in your future endeavors.

      Proudly #DemExited & #LeftOut  | "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON!  |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP“People do not judge in the same way as courts of law; they do not hand down sentences, they throw thunderbolts; they do not condemn kings, they drop them back into the void; and this justice is worth just as much as that of the courts.” - Maximilien Robespierre, 7/28/1794
    • carrotguy (561 posts)

      34. oh my

      is the site OK?   i missed a donation drive a couple of months back.  is everything OK?   I was thinking of donating when I saw the older threads.

      thank you for your service 8)

    • Xyzse (4540 posts)

      35. Thank you for everything.

      I appreciated your guidance.

      Going to miss your knowledge-base.

    • Cleita (3610 posts)

      36. Sad. You will be missed.

      Hoping this doesn’t mean you will stay away altogether and will drop in when you have time.


    • MrMickeysMom (2524 posts)

      37. Mary!

      Thank you for so much…

      1. Creating a space where I could take my sliding/stretching kittens, because they were getting pooped and pee’d on at the other place.
      2. Having always a positive spin on what was and what could be. Everyone needs something to believe in. I like believing that I can have a connection to what I call “my tribe”. We gotta have those things, and this is it.
      3. Being supportive to everyone and encouraging me here. I’ll do my best, cause you said I would.

      Hell no...I'm not giving up...     cat-gif-238.gif giphy.gif
    • 3FingerBrown (1395 posts)

      38. Thanks for all you have done Mary! I hope you will still be around here?

    • Coldmountaintrail (9791 posts)

      39. thanx for everything. can only post 1ce in the title so happy trails to you

    • Koko (6398 posts)

      40. Mary, Thanks to both You and Manny for your vision…

      in starting “Jackpine Radicals” which gave us Bernie supporters a safe and special place throughout the hard times before and after the 2016 Election–allowing us to be in a place where our views were both welcomed and respected.

      Mary, your absolute fairness and gentle, respectful moderating hand in managing the site has helped us get through some really tough times.  Manny keeping the hamsters going, while dealing with his own personal challenges, along with you doing your best to deal with the many software glitches, as the site grew, while still managing your own personal challenges with job changes couldn’t have been easy, but has meant so much to so many of us.

      Now that you have more freedom, I hope we will see more of you and your postings here in the coming days, as we face the challenging Midterms where so much is at stake.

      It will be interesting to see how the new site develops, and best wishes to the new owners, as we move forward into ever more challenging times ahead.



    • LiberalArkie (4364 posts)

      41. Thank you

    • Stryder (415 posts)

      42. A sad and mournful day.

      There is no place I feel more at home than this wonderful haven in the storm that you’ve
      created for we weary travelers. Your “touch” will be deeply missed,
      though I share many other’s hope that your voice here will still be heard.
      Yet I do take no small comfort in knowing that you leave the site
      in the very capable hands of LOE and So Far From Heaven.
      They, of course can count on my continued support. (Such that it is.)
      In fact, this month hasn’t been too financially catastrophic so I guess I can throw in
      another Bernie to help them out on the right footing.
      Peace to you Mary.
      And much Love and thanks.

    • Populist Prole (1210 posts)

      43. Thank you for bringing this site to what it is

      This site is the cornerstone of my ‘net browsing experience, and a must-read every day.

      I hope you still post here.

    • chknltl (1200 posts)

      44. The Sky Is Falling! (I'd say more if i could post outside of title box…hugs)

    • ralps (6407 posts)

      45. Thanks a lot Marym625 & Manny!

    • down-by-the-river (51 posts)

      46. Thank You for everything you've done.

      You created a safe place for us to exchange ideas and share our experiences, for that we are in your debt.


    • Piperay (927 posts)

      47. Wishing you both the best

      and thank you so much for all you’ve done in making JPR a success! :heart:

    • Iwillnevergiveup (1119 posts)

      48. Another brief, but heartfelt title post: THANK YOU, MARY & MANNY!

      We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children.     Native American Proverb
    • ccinamon (227 posts)

      49. A big thanks to you and Manny — I appreciate all that you've done for JPR!

      I’ve been using computers for work and pleasure for decades …. they are not easy to maintain….then to throw a discussion board on top of it….smh….

      Major Kudos for bringing JPR to life and maintaining it for years!

      I hope your current and future endeavors are a great success, you should feel proud and a sense of accomplishment at what you have achieved.

    • quinn (463 posts)

      50. Bravo

      Me clapping for this, great job,  excellent.

    • mmonk (4155 posts)

      51. Thank you so much.

    • ravensong (2846 posts)

      52. JPR is a beautiful work of art.

      So well done.

      Thank you so much for everything you’ve done here, love you, Mary.


      "Together, together, my friends, we have begun a political revolution to transform America, and that revolution, our revolution, continues!" ~  Bernie  
    • Depaysement (732 posts)

      53. Thank you – I’m sad that you’re leaving

      "White youth, black youth Better find another solution Why not phone up Robin Hood And ask him for some wealth distribution" White Man in Hammersmith Palais (1978)
    • Katashi (1391 posts)

      54. Thanks Mary!

      “He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing.” -Paul Atreides, DUNE
    • Haikugal (7776 posts)

      55. My thanks and gratitude to all who make this place available. Hope to see

      you and Manny around here, please don’t disappear.

      Glad to hear about the new overlords….good choice guys.💕


    • snot (1517 posts)

      56. oh jeez, please,

      I can’t finish reading this, it feels so sad.  But I know it’s fine.

      Thank you so much for all your amazing work, and thank you LoE and SFFH for stepping up!


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    • FloridaProg (683 posts)

      57. Thanks Mary!!!!!

      You're either a FDR style progressive or you're a Democrat, but you can't be both. Decide or get out of the kitchen!!
    • Nedsdag (86 posts)

      58. Thank you, Mary!

      I’m still arguing with the morons on that other site, and I must say this site has been a breath of fresh air.

      • Snort McDork (2951 posts)

        59. Thank you Mary

        I always think of you after looking at the picture someone took of us at that coffee shop. I wish you the best. Hope that our paths can cross again sometime in the future.

    • vattel (2642 posts)

      60. You've done a terrific job Mary.

      I appreciate all your efforts and look forward to seeing more of your wisdom in future posts.

    • Major Hogwash (5000 posts)

      61. We owe you a debt of gratitude for all of your work and passion. xoxoxo

      Trump moya marionetka ~ Putin  
    • DamnYankeeInHouston (193 posts)

      62. Thank you for a job incredibly well done. Thank you for a home on the web.

    • Gryneos (2698 posts)

      63. Hey, y'all have done well and we thank ya :-)

      I’m sure Deadpool will do fine, and it’s not like we have a SuperPac propping us up with unlimited finds to hire people to run things full time. Take a break, post from time to time to let us know you’re still around, and give Deadpool a tough time ;-)

      I noticed that SV has misinterpreted your title completely as meaning the end of JPR. Well, reading-comprehension was never their strong suit.

      "That's Jeff Vader, that is."__"I am not Jeff Vader, I am Darth Vader."__"What, Jeff Vader runs the Deathstar?"__"No, Jeff… No, I run the Deathstar."__"You Jeff Vader?"__"No, I'm Darth Vader!"__"Are you his brother? Can you get his autograph?"__"I can't get it… No, I'm… All right, I'm Jeff Vader! I'm Jeff Vader!"__"Can I have your autograph?"__"No, fuck off, or I'll kill you with a tray! Give me penne a la arabiata or you shall die. And you, and everyone in this canteen! Death by tray it shall be!" Eddie Izzard, Circle
    • Colors of the Rainbow (2329 posts)

      64. Thank you, Mary and Manny!

      Thank you both!

    • 99Forever (4805 posts)
      Moderator Emeritus

      65. I've not been online for a very long time.

      Though I know how difficult this transition is for you, Mary, and for Manny, I also understand why. LandofEnchantment and SoFarFromheaven v are certain to keep Jim’s dream alive. I have no way to express the myriad of feelings this evokes in me. May all good things come to all of you. I will continue my new life as a Nomad and check in, when possible. Much Love, dear sweet compassionate Mary, you a truly a beautiful soul.