Japan’s rising sun flag has a history of horror. It must be banned at the Tokyo Olympics

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    soryang
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    Japan’s rising sun flag has a history of horror. It must be banned at the Tokyo Olympics
    Alexis Dudden Fri Nov. 1

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/nov/01/japan-rising-sun-flag-history-olympic-ban-south-korea

    Imagine if, at the opening ceremony of the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics, the stadium were filled to capacity with fans waving the American Confederate flag. A similarly hurtful scene could become reality at the Tokyo Games next summer, if the Japanese “rising sun” flag is on display.

    Japanese athletes and fans regularly sport their national flag – a red ball centred on white. The rising sun symbol is different, however. A red ball with 16 red rays, it is sometimes used by companies in advertisements, yet it is technically a military flag: from 1870 until the end of the second world war, it was imperial Japan’s war flag. Since 1954, a renewed version of the rising sun has been the banner of the Japanese navy, known as the Japan Maritime Self-Defence Force.

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    N2Doc
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    This flag has brought more horror to the world:

    Should it be banned?

     

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    soryang
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    A better analogy would be the use of a flag used by the US Armed Forces.

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    Let’s ban the flag of the country that nuked Japan.  Twice.  Evidently, just because it could.

    The United States flag IS a war flag.

    I will not vote for a Vichy Dem. Period. As always, I decide who is a Vichy Dem.

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      That was the 48 star flag. The United States hasn’t nuked anybody under the 50 star flag.

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    I have more pressing concerns than symbolism at the Olympics. Since I won’t watch any of the Olympics, I’ll let others argue over this latest cause du jour.

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    The question is: Why would they use a military flag at the Olympics rather than their national flag. I can’t imagine they would.

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      Because Abe is making Japan great again. It’s part of a campaign of historical denial and revisionism intended to lead to a return to the heritage of Meiji imperialism. Ultimately removal of restrictions on the offensive military operations in the Constitution are to be amended away. The US and UK support this move just as they supported the Japanese Imperialism in the early twentieth Century that lead to Japan’s Imperial Empire and WWII. This is what the flag symbolizes.

      WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 4, 2019
      IOC allows Japan to display Rising Sun Flag at Tokyo Summer Olympics

      https://civilizationdiscontents.blogspot.com/2019/09/ioc-allows-japan-to-display-rising-sun.html

      Both Shinzo Abe and Deputy Prime Minister Taro Aso are the grandchildren of WWII elites involved in war crimes. Both belong to the Nippon Kaigi, the far right ultra-nationalist organization that denies Japan committed war crimes during WWII.

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        @soryang Well, if the Abe government allows the Rising Sun flag to be displayed, that will create a public relations nightmare for him. I’m sure the Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, Indonesians, Vietnamese, and others would put up quite a stink over it. Wouldn’t it make the Japanese look bad if the Koreans and Chinese walked out?

        What I don’t understand is why the IOC voted to allow it to be flown.

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          It was reported that the Chinese representative involved with the paralympics had objected on one occasion when the subject came up. The Chinese government officially hasn’t taken a position. During the Beijing Olympics in 2008, the Japanese foreign ministry advised Japanese spectators and tourists not to display the rising sun flag because it was likely to be provocative. At the London Olympics in 2012 there was apparently no such restriction. The Chinese were invited and sent a vessel to participate in October 2019 Naval Review hosted by Japan although the Japanese navy flies the rising sun ensign but the event was cancelled due to a typhoon. China’s position is ambivalent toward both Koreas and it isn’t clear what their position will be. They have steadily improved relations with Japan since 2012. If they feel that they are the net beneficiary of further deterioration in South Korean- Japanese relations, then I think they might just let it slide. It is unlikely that Taiwan will say anything. If the PRC let’s it slide, then it is unlikely that other Asian states will say anything for fear of diplomatic or trade retaliation from Japan. I think the IOC is taking a wait and see attitude, namely if fans waving the flags are the cause of disorder, then perhaps they will restrict it’s display at the venues.

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