Jimmy Dore IS Howard Beale [Network]…Absolutely EPIC Rant! Torches Bernie!

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    EaracheMyEye
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    Jan Boehmerman
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    Should have been done long ago!  Bernie needed to put the gloves on…. good to see he’s doing it now.

    Thanks for your first post.

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    I sometimes wonder if people who reference “Network” have seen any of it besides the “Mad As Hell” clip. The whole story is about Beale being exploited during a suicidal, psychotic breakdown caused by the very company that caused his mental breakdown. It’s a great commentary about media dehumanization and capitalist exploitation.

    And that particular clip is a direct reference to Orwell’s “1984,” and the “two minutes hate.” Though the films are eight years apart, compare:

    And the point there is an expression of people lead through a paroxysm of pointless, futile rage. To vent their frustrations and anger at their own conditions, in such a way to keep them from changing anything about those conditions. the Outer party can scream its throat bloody at Goldstein, but The Brotherhood will never be “defeated,” and the Party will never change. Residents of Beale’s city can shout out their windows and scream at their RV sets all night long, but they will never metastasize into movement.

    That’s WHY Union Broadcasting keeps Beale around; he’s good for ratings because people tune in to scream, but his rants and their anger… amounts to nothing. No change. No difference. And when he’s gone, the camera rolls right over him to the next thing and society travels with it.

     

    So… Jimmy might in fact be mad as hell. But I think comparing him to Beal is pretty unflattering to Jimmy, and it really misses the point of “Network.”

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      They kept him around so that he could subvert his following into becoming believers in corporatism and globalism.

      Lex Luthor’s henchman laid it all out. 🙂

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      It’s good to be back 🙂

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    Jimmy, if you think Obama is going to invite you out to party on Martha’s Vinyard you have another think coming!

    How out of touch is Pressley? She endorsed Biden.

    Jimmy! Obama was/is a pussy yet he is beloved by Democrats!

    It’s easy and cowardly to complain about Republicans when we have these horrible leaders like Pelosi and Schumer.

    Start today, Bernie. Repeat after me, “Joe Biden is not my friend, he never was, it’s just a bullshit meme I made up.”

    I would like to remind you that U.S. health insurance companies do not contribute anything to health care. They are only a PARASITIC middle man receiving an undeserved cut of "FREE MONEY".

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  • #297493

    EaracheMyEye
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    Instead, watch the Jimmy Dore video, his epic take-down reminds me of the energy, the fervor displayed in the famous Network scene. This isn’t about the film, it’s about calling out our ‘feckless leaders’…and Jimmy certainly did that last night! Now is the time for a revolution, and he’s imploring Bernie and his people to rise up and meet the challenge. #GeneralStrike

    Jimmy Dore daily live streams is must watch tv! 😉

     

    @janboehmermann, @twilightsporkle, @babel17

     

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    In the first minute, he takes the credit for Bernie calling for suspension of all rents, mortgages, and evictions. He claims to be the only person on the left to talk about that. He’s also full of shit.

    Lots of ordinary people are talking about that. I hear it all the time, including from small restaurant owners trying to survive on takeout only. I’ve heard it every day for weeks now, ever since my Republican governor made Ohio the first really populous state to do a mandatory lockdown. Mike Dewine, of all people, actually listened to medical professionals and acted. I didn’t like it at the time, but in retrospect he was right and I was wrong.

    Maybe because the lockdown came earlier in Ohio than in most other places is the reason why I’ve heard it more than some. And it’s not just people on the left wanting this relief, and now. The need for it is situational and immediate for everyone in that situation. Everyone from restaurant workers to Burger King needs that relief, and it is common knowledge.

    Just because the corporate media isn’t talking about it much–though they are some–and just because Jimmy’s YouTube political commentary competitors haven’t been harping on Bernie to call for it, some have talked about the problem. I know for a fact Tim Black and Saajar Enjeti have. I’m pretty sure Kyle Kulinski and Mike Figeuroda also have brought this critical issue up.

    I also think it’s entirely possible that Bernie or someone close to him noticed that the inability to pay rents or mortgages for tens of millions of Americans just might be an issue that the federal government needs to address.

    And Dore thinks Bernie is calling for it now because of him?? Because he directed a few tweets at Bernie’s campaign people? Like nobody else in this country was doing that?    Talk about delusions of influence.

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      EaracheMyEye
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      Aaahhh, no! Jimmy has been in constant contact with Bernie’s people. He texts several of them daily. The campaign literally posted on Twitter the ‘need to address rent & mortgages’ at the same time Jimmy was discussing the subject on his live stream.

      https://twitter.com/jimmy_dore/status/1245544069268271104

      YAAAY!! After A full fucking day of Begging his campaign to talk about this they are finally tweeting about it! I don’t care if you don’t return my texts at least you’re tweeting about it now thank you! https://t.co/wgrZj1ZmYk

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          EaracheMyEye
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          get’s called out, members get defensive or dismissive of those criticizing him.

          Like I said before, ‘Jimmy Dore has a huge platform (700K subscribers), and he’s using it to amplify his voice on behalf of all of us.’ Jimmy has leverage, and unlike the Democrats, he’s using it! 😉

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          • #297746

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            I just think Jimmy Dore’s was being a pompous ass in this video, and that he has a grudge against Sanders because the latter refused to appear on his show. This is all about Jimmy Dore’s ego, not any policy position that might actually prevent people from staring utter destitution in the face.

            @earachemyeye

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            “Jimmy Dore has over 700K subscribers, and over 200K Twitter followers!”

            Sanders has 11.7 M followers on 1 of his twitter accounts & 9.5M on the other.

            And Dore has an inflated sense of his own importance, which he trumpets at every opportunity.  He’s kinda like trump in that respect.

             

          • #297849

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            It’s not “just a coincidence.” But it’s also not causal.

            the Sanders campaign and Jimmy Dore picked up on the same trends next to each other… because that happens to be when those trends entered their spheres of awareness. Specifically when rent strikes became a reality when the first of the month came up and people didn’t have incomes. Leftist social media has been talking about rent strikes from CV, how to prepare, how to help, what resources are at hand… since February at least. Neither Dore nor the sanders campaign delve terribly deeply into leftist social media. Both cater more to the “left-leaning liberal” crowd, the “democrat, but questioning” voters, etc. And so both actually missed the actual discussion, and are only coming into the fray now that this stuff is a happening reality.

            To claim it’s coincidence is nonsense – both are reacting simultaneously to a situation / event that follows their interests and agendas. but to claim that Dore is instrumental in the Sanders campaign picking it up is as silly as claiming the inverse is true, and that Dore would have never known if the Sanders campaign hadn’t said something.

            The big difference is, the Sanders campaign isn’t the one trying to claim credit for all the groundwork laid by people over several months’ time. I thought about going a little more deeply into what that sort of self-aggrandizement might mean for Jimmy Dore… but it’d get REALLY long and can be summed yup by me just stating my belief that punditry literally drives pundits insane. Like in a genuine clinical, this person needs medicine way.

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      He should be careful. People can be turned off by that.

      But in fairness, he said, “…because no one else is putting pressure on Bernie Sanders right now in the progressive news space except me”, which would not include ordinary people, like restaurant owners.

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        Leftish politics have devolved these days into being angry about what one personality says about another personality.  I watched this show in its entirety prior to reading this thread, and I interpreted Dore’s comments as being directed toward other pundits/bloggers/podcasters – for example, he has said more than once “thanks for leaving this lane (i.e. criticism of progressive politicians) wide open,” which indicates that he is talking about other political celebrities.

        Here is Jimmy’s money quote from this show:

        “The progressive media is not supposed to be a fucking fan club for our elected officials”

        He is exactly correct.  Bernie, AOC, Omar, etc. are getting the CLAP LOUDER!!! treatment from the progressive media for ‘fighting’ to ensure that tiny crumbs for the people were included in the multi-trillion-dollar corporate bailout bill.

        Dore is right on the money when he says that there are no heroes involved in the bailout.  None.

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          Because that bailout happened in a middle of a fucking crisis while Jimmy Dore gets to sit back and criticize those trying to get stuff done which was taking long enough as it is. They needed to get a deal done ASAP because we are in the middle of a unprecedented crisis.

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            Congress didn’t need to combine the corporate bailout with the people’s bailout. It’s not like the left gained any leverage combining them, we got scraps! Accelerate the needs of the people first, then work on the inevitable corporate give-a-way 🙁

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              House Democrats made much needed changes and Sanders was able to add expanded unemployment benefits in the Senate bill and it was the best deal they could get with a Republican Senate. Also Sanders came out with a Coronavirus relief bill today so unlike Dore he is doing hard work in Capitol Hill.

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                The Democrats conceded their leverage when they had it. Instead we got the largest transfer of wealth in the history of this country. Wow, lucky me, I get one check for $1200 and still NO health care during a pandemic…! Whatever Bernie is proposing now would have had a greater chance of success if it was part of the original “stimulus” bill, period!

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            The corporate bailout could have waited.  Dore correctly points out that a progressive leader would have used the urgency to get the people what they need, rather than claiming powerlessness and settling for crumbs.  Make Corporate America beg us for their money, rather than the other way around.  We just don’t want to try and do anything that’s hard.

            I swear to the hypothetical god that the left is America is completely cowed.  We’re all Eeyore:  “Oh no, the corporate bailout is inevitable, better not ask for too much, here Corporate America – take your trillions..”

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              How convenient for our kleptocratic overlords, that most of the world’s population now suffers from a psychogenic meltdown. The pillage was, no doubt, much easier than it would have been, otherwise.

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      Jimmy’s head is starting to get too big for his glasses.

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    Great video.  Abrasive, realistic truth-telling is needed in times of crisis, and crisis time it is. Always say no to cults of personality. They lead to nothing but political culs-de-sac, with little to no power and certainly affect no real systemic change.

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      @stockholmer In fact, he is starting to remind me of Al Franken; never as funny or as smart as he thought he was, and tooting his own horn without justification. It turns me off. He’s just a comedian with a political show. His opinion is no more valuable than yours or mine.

      I agree with him a lot, and sometimes he makes me laugh. Now he just makes me say “Jimmy, you are not nearly so important as you think you are or your fans think you are.” They’re just fans, after all. Dore’s just another typical seeker of fortune and fame who lives around LA.

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        Plus progressives don’t do cults of personality. We vet all the politicians including Sanders which is why we know he’s the best.

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        IMO, Dore is after his own “cult of personality” – for ratings, not to improve the country per se.  And supporting Bernie, warts and all, is not a cult of personality, there just is not another similar politician.  Gabbard lost me with the H-1B stuff – this is a red flag for corporatism, and bad for American workers.  So I was never on the Gabbard train in the first place, and I think that is who Dore supported.  He is just looking for ratings now, IMO.  And I doubt Bernie’s campaign consults Dore’s twitter feed for policy ideas.  Wells Fargo said they would suspend payments for people affected by Covid-19 for three months – last week.  This is not a new idea.

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        Jimmy Dore has over 700K subscribers, and over 200K Twitter followers! Jimmy has a huge platform, and he’s using it to amplify his voice on behalf of all of us. You can disagree, but Jimmy has leverage, and he’s using it. This isn’t about being funny, or ratings, this is a powerful message that he’s voicing.

        As I always say “If you’re not mad, you’re not paying attention!”

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    One of the major reasons so many of the EU nations have far more robust worker protections and expansive social safety nets is that the working classes are not afraid to utilise the power of a

     

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    I’m not up for sitting through 20+ minutes of Jimmy Dore, but I see some posts in this thread about how the relief bill should have been much better.

    Well, yeah, of course it should have.  But there’s a Republican majority in the Senate and a right-wing fool in the White House.  In light of those realities, is the idea that Bernie and AOC and a few other progressives in Congress could have stamped their feet and shouted and threatened to hold their breath until they turned blue, and thus they would somehow have gotten a bill that Jimmy Dore and the Green Party would approve?

    Because of the Democrats’ influence on this bill, some real people will keep a roof over their heads — people who would’ve been made homeless if there were a Republican majority in the House as well.  Politicians like Bernie and AOC are probably simple-minded enough to consider that an accomplishment.  The real people who will benefit from this bill can recognize its multiple flaws but still be glad that something was done to help them.

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      You made the points I was trying to explain. Progressives were in an impossible position and it is easy for a Youtube host to criticize.

      Jimmy Dore seems to be going scorched earth against progressives lately. He attacked Ro Khanna in a horribly misspelled Tweet. Not sure why he’s having a meltdown but he is doing the establishment job of dividing and conquering progressives.

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      you sometimes, you know, have to fight the corporate state.  In this particular instance, the left had a momentary advantage which they squandered.

      They don’t play to win, they play not to lose.  Ask any coach what happens when you do that.

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        They would be known as the ones that voted no in the middle of a crisis but instead Sanders got something done which is one of the more unfair knocks against him that he can’t things done well he proved them wrong and for some strange reason he was criticized for it by Jimmy Dore.

        Jimmy Dore doesn’t have a realistic solution on what they should have done.

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    And Jimmy Dore, who’s pissed at Bernie for not going on his show, is out for revenge and people jumping on this BASH BERNIE BANDWAGON, are not HELPING to get Bernie elected. By design, I’m sure.

    We still have OVER HALF THE STATES that haven’t voted.

    I take it each of you who support BLAMING BERNIE for this REPUBLICAN Bill, really don’t care if Bernie loses the election. Is that because you’re Tulsi supporters like Jimmy?

    I’m still waiting for Dore’s Bashing Tulsi videos because SHE ENDORSED A WARMONGER, RAPIST, PERVERT, PLAGIARIST and LIAR… instead of endorsing BERNIE, the candidate THIS FORUM was supposed to be supporting.

    This fucking video belongs on SV.

    And Jimmy Dore is a RAT FUCKING POS BASTARD.

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      This is just revenge shit, and yeah, where is the outrage about Gabbard.

      I’d say the only folks who think Bernie can single-handedly control Congress are those who love to smear Bernie on progressive outlets.

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      There’s a definitive pattern from several of you…Kill The Messenger! Trash Jimmy Dore! A response that’s clearly more personal than any actual critique of his message. Why don’t you just call him a Putin puppet, while you’re at it? Many of you are ignoring the message, because it’s politically convenient.

      Just for the record, I’ve been a supporter of Bernie since his ‘Brunch with Bernie’ days, but ALL leaders must be challenged.

      “Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth” – Einstein

      Jimmy’s urgency is what’s needed now, and to say ‘he’s just catching on to what’s already happening’, reveals you don’t watch his show enough. Yes, Jimmy Dore has a platform of ‘only’ 700k/200k+ @ohiobarbarian, but at least he’s using it! This isn’t about ratings or his ego. We should applaud our progressive voices for calling out our ‘feckless leaders’.

      Bernie Sanders and the progressive movement, who have millions more supporters, have been too slow in their response. Progressives need to become more forceful, rally the people, and bring the machine to a full-stop. Up to now, it’s been the PEOPLE who have been leading the movement, instead of the other way around. Shame on all of our so-called leaders!

      This is Bernie’s moment, it’s time to take bold action, and ‘stop trying to work within the establishment’, something I’ve read on this site thousands of times. Now it’s ‘well…what could he do?, ‘they got us the best deal under the circumstances’, yadda yadda yadda…BULLSHIT! The largest transfer of wealth in the history of this country, which was already prepared for in advance by TPTB in anticipation of another crisis…AND $1200 is the best the Left could do for us, that’s utter nonsense! If only there were mechanisms designed by our founding fathers to stall legislation, like a filibuster, et al 🙁

      Hell, even a psychopath like Drumpf is out-flanking the Left…he’s using HIS platform to suggest a medicare/medicaid expansion. How upside down can these times be! 96-0, really!? If it was going to pass anyway, make a stand, defend why it wasn’t good enough for us! Explain why corporations are getting a slush fund, with no strings attached. Stop propping up failure, and call them out!

      Btw, Jimmy did call out Tulsi, he spent two straight days doing so. His daily live streams have been more revealing than all that’s posted, and the disappointment in Tulsi was unmistakable. AND Bernie too, will end up endorsing “his good friend”, a warm monger, sexual predator, that is Joe Biden. It’s the way the rigged system is designed, just like when Bernie supported Her Royal Heinous, another war monger, married to a sexual predator…so don’t bash a veteran, peace activist, the ONLY openly anti-war presidential candidate in 2020. @incognito

      “Prejudices are what fools use for reason” – Voltaire

      I don’t give a flying fuck if you like Jimmy Dore, that’s not the point! The message is clear, now more than ever…it’s time to shut down THE MACHINE with or without our so-called leaders!

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        @earachemyeye What’s with the point of your rant here? I don’t believe that Jimmy Dore had anything to do with Bernie calling for a rent moratorium for the duration, and that he must have a superinflated ego to claim that he did. That’s really my main point on this thread. That’s it.

        With maybe one exception, everyone on this thread you are screaming at has criticized some of Bernie’s tactics during this election; mainly we think he is way too soft on Biden and other corrupt Democrats. But to blame Bernie for the stimulus package being all One Big Bill is to demonstrate a lack of understanding of how things work in Congress.

        Bernie and the other progressives could not have stopped it in its tracks no matter what they did. They could have delayed it for a few days; that’s it. Do you understand that? Do you understand they were thinking that every day of delay could hurt tens of millions of Americans, for it would have absolutely done that.

        It’s a bad bill. It’s an atrocious bill. It’s a corporate coup. I know. I just don’t blame Bernie Sanders for it. I don’t even blame Mitt Romney or Donald Trump for that. I blame Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Mitch McConnell for that, plus about 500 others in Congress.

        You do blame Bernie for that, and I think you are being unfair to him on this particular issue. That is all I have to say.

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      • #298202

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        Jimmy Dore’s criticism of Bernie Sanders or AOC is unfair as Jim Lane explained.

         

        Tulsi Gabbard’s Tweet About Anti-Hinduism In The West Is Stoking Anti-Muslim Sentiment In India

        Gabbard quote-tweeted a US-based psychiatrist from Kashmir, who shared a screenshot of an anonymous Facebook post with the comment: “Blatantly biased news & anti-Hindu propaganda has real-world consequences for innocent people.”

        The anonymous Facebook post described an alleged encounter between two women and their Uber driver, who blamed Indian Hindus for “killing Muslims in New Delhi,” when he learned the women were Hindu. The driver then allegedly asked the women to get out of his car. BuzzFeed News has reached out to Gabbard and the woman she retweeted to find out more about the Facebook post, which could not be independently verified or located online.

        Gabbard’s tweet has since been shared on right-wing news websites in India and discussed on news channels.

        (snip)

        https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nishitajha/tulsi-gabbard-hinduphobia-tweet-delhi-violence-modi

        She had a moderate voting record before entering the race and was in favor of torture at one point so not sure why he’s piling on real progressives. Speaking of platform he sometimes is wrong and is using his platform to broadcast his incorrect views influencing those who watch his show. I prefer Bernie Sanders & AOC over Jimmy Dore if I’m forced to choose.

         

    • #299263

      Pastiche
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    • #299302

      PolecatHollerer
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      .

      If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

  • #298196

    EaracheMyEye
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    …how quickly you forget 🙁

    Now that Jimmy Dore is speaking truth to power, particularly calling out Bernie, you display repugnance towards the messenger.

     

    Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth - Einstein | It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong - Voltaire | Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil - Jerry Garcia | Necessitous men are not free men - FDR | #WarIsOver #GivePeaceAChance

    • #299310

      incognito
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      @earachemyeye

      has forgotten Dore was Bernie’s biggest supporter in 2016.

      Why do you think his show became so popular? WE brought him to where he is… fucking ingrate.

      We also haven’t forgotten the outright temper tantrum episodes he did WHINING about Bernie refusing to appear on his show.

      This current bullshit display of outrage is nothing but Dore having his infantile revenge.

      It’s also why he endorsed Tulsi. His excuse for endorsing Tulsi was that she was the anti war candidate… but we all know it’s because she went on his show  when Bernie wouldn’t. He’s like a 2 year old.

      What Dore should be ranting about is Tulsi endorsing a Warmonger who advocated for and voted for the Iraq War and a man who is a proven PLAGIARIST, RAPIST, PERVERT AND A LIAR. Where’s his outrage over that? Dore’s anti war candidate endorsed a warmonger – WHILE BERNIE SANDERS IS STILL IN THE RACE.

      Dore’s feigned outrage is nothing more than a Tulsi supporter getting even for being slighted (in Dore’s demented mind) by a humanitarian who refused to appear on his show.

      I’m Still waiting for all his episodes where he rages against Tulsi for endorsing A WARMONGER. So far… crickets.

      IMCPO, THAT is very telling.

      THAT tells me, being anti war wasn’t really why he supported Tulsi over Bernie. It tells me he did it to GET EVEN.

      Dore’s a Dick.

      • #299315

        lownslow
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        Dore may be a dick, but bernie may be a pu**y. I still feel the bern but it feels like 8 wasted years. Bernie left tim canova out to dry in his fight against dws. Where is bernies support for jared becks lawsuit against dnc rigging the election against his own campaign? Hell, he just got another election stolen and isnt saying shit. If you arent part of the solution, you might be a sheepdog. Jimmy is part of the solution. He can at least say things the bern apparently cant. What is bernie gonna get us? A couple planks in a meaningless convention platform. Its on to the young ones to save us and we need the truthtellers, dicks and all

        • #299322

          incognito
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          And Bernie Sanders is STILL running for president and DORE and YOU and all the other Tulsi supporters are attacking our ONLY hope for ever getting change. Well done! You’re joining forces with the DNC and GOP to help take down the ONLY fucking person in this country who gives two shits about We The People.

          BRILLIANT MOVE! Just brilliant.

           

           

  • #299313

    djean111
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    show.   Give me a break.

    I have always been meh towards Dore, he is smug and smarmy, and I am always leery of rabid Gabbard supporters – anyone who is not only fine with, but wants to increase the number of people in any other country being deliberately and purposely trained to take jobs away from Americans is no different than those who think NAFTA’s job-killing was and is okay. So no Gabbard for me, thanks, not exactly a friend to American workers, and who knows how far that would go.  And no endorsement or non-endorsement of Bernie has any relevance to my support of Bernie.  I do not think Bernie is perfect, but he is out there trying to help people, not cracking jokes and ranting on a Youtube channel and thinking that is “speaking truth to power”.  That’s an almost hilarious description of Dore’s ranting.

    You are just using “oh, noes, you are killing the messenger” as a straw man when we all do not jump on the rant against Bernie train with Dore, that’s all.   Even though he has “lots of subscribers” or whatever the fuck.  So do the Kardashians.

    @earachemyeye

    • #299745

      JonLP
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      She used to favor torture. She retweeted someone that later said that Sanders campaign has been taken over by Islamists. She also voted present on the impeachment rather than yes or no. She has much bigger problems than H1b1 Visas. I have my own problem with H1B1 Visas mainly that they don’t make it easy to take your talents to another company for better pay & benefits artificially lowering wages for all workers. Also someone who founded a company was unable to work for it when he switched over to a student visa.

  • #299455

    EaracheMyEye
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    Too many excuses, your ad hominum attacks towards Jimmy Dore will not detract from the message…stop defending our progressives leaders, and challenge them! They could of done so much more for us [see videos], and the stimulus bill revealed who they ultimately answer to…and you have to be politically naive to think otherwise.

    w/ Marc Van Landoyt [CA Progressive Caucus]

    …and Krystal Ball calls out Bernie & AOC

    Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth – Einstein

     

    “Nothing extra” is also of course the essence of Zen living itself: perceiving life as it actually is, as opposed to perceiving it through a bunch of believed narrative filters about yourself, about others, about reality, and so on. These narrative filters are an extra pile of layers that are added on top of the actual experience of life, and they give a distorted view which causes a lot of confusion and suffering. Relinquishing belief in them brings clarity and peace.” – Caitlin Johnstone [April 4th, 2020]

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  • #299498

    Maedhros
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    Dore criticizes a sacred cow, and a swarm descends to disparage him with no discussion of the substance of his arguments (which were echoed by Krystal Ball, so I guess you all should start disparaging her too).

    His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
    but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
    and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
    more deadly than his right had been.

    • #299600

      EaracheMyEye
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      Thanks! @maedhros

      …just wait til Hedges, Chomsky & Wolff begin to call out progressives for unanimously voting for this monstrosity of a bill.

      “Many of the people I interviewed noted the financial rescue is divorced from any real-world crisis goal or plan, i.e. it massively props up financial markets as an end in itself, addresses no structural weaknesses” – Matt Taibbi

      https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/coronavirus-fed-bank-bailout-disaster-976086/

      https://taibbi.substack.com/p/resetting-the-bomb

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    • #299640

      Ohio Barbarian
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      @maedhros I think Dore’s full of shit for taking credit for Bernie adopting a position that Jimmy was advocating. I think Bernie would have said what he did whether Dore said it or not. That’s it.

      I have plenty of criticism for Bernie, and he is no sacred cow. It just galls people to see a comedian/commentator let Tulsi completely off the hook for endorsing a warmonger and then turn around and torch Bernie for being unable to do the impossible in the Senate.

      And some people are treating Jimmy Dore like he’s some sacred cow. We need more mirrors around here.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

      • #299713

        EaracheMyEye
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        and you’re appearing a bit unhinged, but that’s OK, it’s sinking in…

        Our “leaders” have screwed us over for a generation. It’s OK to get angry, but channel that energy towards the culprits.

        Once you come to terms with these facts, you’ll be in a much better place…

        @maedhros @ohiobarbarian

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        • #299816

          Ohio Barbarian
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          You accuse us of being cultish towards Bernie Sanders, yet you get all upset when Jimmy Dore is criticized. You appear to be a Jimmy Dore groupie. Just sayin’.

          It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

          If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

      • #299751

        Maedhros
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        Railing against Dore because he’s angry and vocal about it is misspent energy.  Dore’s entitled to his rant, just like we all are.  It’s easy enough to refute his points without vitriol.

        His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
        but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
        and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
        more deadly than his right had been.

        • #299817

          Ohio Barbarian
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          Fair’s fair.

          It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

          If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

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  • #299612

    Maedhros
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    since he began objectively analyzing the mistakes and abuses of Democrats, but he tackled some of the same issues that Dore raises regarding the failure of the Sanders campaign:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3VGDDErnmk&t=2737s

    His body recovered from his torment and became hale,
    but the shadow of his pain was in his heart;
    and he lived to wield his sword with left hand
    more deadly than his right had been.

    • #299728

      EaracheMyEye
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      I just discovered this piece, dig the quote:

      “If Bernie had bothered to read the bill, he would have seen the not $500 billion, but $4 trillion worth of pork larding a mere $2 trillion dollars of real pandemic relief. Maybe he fears losing his senatorial privileges if he does anything more than spout moralistic aphorisms He had plenty of company as clueless as he was. The entire Senate lined up to do the bidding of the lords of the universe. That included those self-described progressive senators who were either too craven, too corrupt or too cowardly to use their leverage (the bill required 60 votes) to block the bill as written and demand changes that would prioritize the needs of hospitals, local and state governments, small businesses and the American people. Instead they followed the Pied Piper-in-chief and his loyal band of Republican co-conspirators into the swampy waters of corporate plunder and voted Yes.

      In the House the fix was solidly in. Choosing the cowards way out, representatives settled for a voice vote to avoid going on the record. Only one representative even bothered to register a (small) protest after which amazingly she voted for the bill.

      Hospital workers do not have protective equipment. We don’t have the necessary ventilators…. What did the Senate majority fight for? One of the largest corporate bailouts, with as few strings as possible, in American history—shameful. The option that we have is to either let [families] suffer with nothing or to allow this greed of billions of dollars, which will be leveraged into trillions of dollars, to contribute to the largest income-inequality gap in our future… (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortes)

      Of course, it wasn’t meant to and didn’t change a single vote of this bunch of corporate tools. Small comfort to know that Trump and Congress didn’t get the whole enchilada. The original bill contained a provision to keep their dirty dealings secret for six months. That provision was later removed.” – Jane Biral

      https://dissidentvoice.org/2020/04/trillions-in-disaster-relief-for-corporations-and-banks-spare-change-for-the-people-hospitals-small-businesses-state-and-local-governments/

      Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth - Einstein | It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong - Voltaire | Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil - Jerry Garcia | Necessitous men are not free men - FDR | #WarIsOver #GivePeaceAChance

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