Joe Biden Tanking in the Polls?

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    • #73495
      Snort McDork
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      Nothing would make me more happier than to see this Shillary clone go to the bottom of the barrel in polling.

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      "I like birdy num-nums"

    • #73500
      3fingerbrown
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      I can’t see Biden going up in the polls, especially the more he talks.

      All governments lie to their citizen's, but only Americans believe theirs.

    • #73504
      Snort McDork
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      I don’t think I have made a statement here, personally, that Biden would drop in the polls, or lose in popularity of the voters.  For me, I’m afraid of saying something and being wrong. I’ve made that mistake in the past. I believe I always said something to the effect of, “well I hope he goes down further when he opens his mouth……” I was always speculating.  Speculative, but positive. I always wanted to think positively that Bernie was indeed leading in the polls over the “hair sniffer.” After all, who still draws more people to their rally’s than any other candidate? Obviously it’s Bernie.  And, as with most of us, we suspected that the DNC would have none of it by pulling something disgusting for their corporate pick. I wasn’t sure what the DNC would do to get their “Shillary Clone” over Bernie. CNN does it, and has been doing it constantly for the past 2 months. But I knew Bernie was indeed at the top of the polls after we all learned 2 or 3 weeks ago that the polling did not include voters under 40 or 50. They tried to do this BS poll to make people think Bernie was falling-which we all knew was BS. Biden was their newest reason to put someone over Bernie. It seemed fairly obvious. It was obvious. I’m just anxious for Iowa to cast their ballots. Then New Hampshire, and show these corporate hacks that Bernie is popular with voters. Too sad they can’t get it through their head that their days are over with. I hope Kyle is right. Only time will tell.

       

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    • #73505
      Babel 17
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      The establishment so badly wants to brand the progressive wing as dangerously extreme, but too much of the Democrat party is hanging with them to make it an outright war. They can’t in addition to Sanders ostracize Harris, Warren, Booker, and Gillibrand (near zero in the polls, but still a very prominent woman) and still have a party that will shrug off the rough and tumble of primary season and then unite together to rack up wins across the country in 2020.

      Ironically, the fact that Sanders isn’t sending packing the pretenders to his long standing brand of progressivism is helping to keep his brand alive and healthy. It’s like he’s Xerox, those threatened by Xerox want to kill it, but now they see all these other companies have popped up who sell copiers.

      They can defeat Xerox, but copiers are here to stay.

      And funny enough, Sanders/Xerox isn’t suing his competitors for infringing on his “patent”. Almost as if he knew this was how it had to play out. By copying Sanders it’s going to destroy their credibility among the progressives that they were wooing if they drop out and then want to endorse Biden.

      That makes endorsing Biden a risky move if Sanders is still running strong. If he gets the nomination then those who identified with Clinton in 2016, and Biden in 2020, can be safely relegated to the dustbin of history. At a minimum they wouldn’t be owed any favors.

      The establishment press that’s been opposing Trump wants the progressive wing to flame out so badly that they can taste it. They just can’t be obvious in working to make that happen because they’re already totally on the outs with the current administration, and they can’t afford to be on the outs with a new, Democratic, one.

      I want Gravel on the stage so as to remind those who identify as liberals what a real old time liberal thinks of the war mongers that they’ve been supporting. Maybe he’d directly call out Maddow, and I’m pretty sure he’d call out Biden. Last time he was up on stage with the war mongering Democrats he didn’t pull his punches.

    • #73507
      Bernie 4 2020
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      Bernie changed everything for me, exposing the establishment and supporting policies that help us all. So much that I will never vote for an establishment dem again. If Bernie gets screwed again, I will pencil in Bernie in the general.

      Wont get fooled again.

      I'm done, It's over for now. It was nice meeting all the cool people here.

    • #73511
      rampart
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      if our choices are trump or biden, in a state where the outcome is certain, please support a 3rd party. the greens or working family parties both need help staying on the ballots. without ballot access the 3rd parties are dead.

      • #73520
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Why just in certain states? Is not the impact of voting third party even greater in swing states? I’ve voted third party twice since I’ve been in Ohio. My vote belongs to no one and is owed to no one. If the Dems nominate some Vichy Dem neofascist, I’ll vote Green next November. Fuck them, and to hell with the popular delusion that one’s vote can be “thrown away.”

        It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

        If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

        • #73538
          A Simple Game
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          The two major parties want us to think we will throw away our votes if we don’t pick one of their two bottom of the barrel choices.  The best way to “throw away your vote” is to not vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation.  I have said for a long time, the only way the best candidate(s) win is if we vote for them.  If the candidate has a chance of winning should never be a criteria for choosing who is the best candidate.

        • #73565
          rampart
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          I hear you, barbarian. but even biden, or Clinton, would be better (however slightly) than this current president.

          • #73623
            djean111
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            @rampart

            Ever since I read about Hillary’s plan to take an additional 3% of workers’ paychecks and gift it to the Blackstone Group to play with,  ever since I read about Hillary asking can’t we just drone Assange, ever since I looked at Biden’s and Hillary’s records – sorry, but I think a Hillary, Biden, or other Vichy Dem would sell us down the river so smoothly and quickly it would be astounding.   Biden agreed with Paul Ryan on cutting Medicare, Medicaid, and and Social Security.  The other Vichy Dems are charged with the same tasks.  I, and my family, will vote Green rather than vote for a Vichy Dem.  I will not enable them.  IMO the greater evil is pretending to not be evil.

      • #73577
        jbnw
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        And do it in a state where the outcome isn’t certain too!  Vote for who you want in office.  For too many years we have been in a continuing downward spiral from our current two parties, leading to the worst example I’ve seen in 2016.  There were parties before these two; there will be parties after.  We CHOOSE which party we support with the candidates we vote for.

      • #73582
        ronRonnie1
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        Hell, if it’s a damn nail-biter, if it rests on one fucking vote, I’ll NEVER vote for a racist, apartheid loving, warmonger.

    • #73523
      Ohio Barbarian
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      I wouldn’t say Biden’s tanking yet, but he’s a fader, and I think the slow fade may have begun. By not showing up in California he looked weak and cowardly. Of course, he’s kind of a dick, so what does one expect?

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      If Democrats don’t stand for the people, why should people stand for them?--Jim Hightower

    • #73525
      Joe Shlabotnik
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      Great video montage!

      ~ All good things are Wild and Free ~

    • #73536
      gordyfl
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      I haven’t seen any changes in Biden’s polling at Real Clear Politics.

      I suspect John Delaney lost some supporters after his speech at the California Convention. Probably Hickenlooper, too. Hopefully, their supporters don’t shift to Biden.

      • #73539
        tmbarton1961
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        I don’t think that Delaney or Hickenlooper have enough supporters to matter.

        Based on what I saw from Bernie at the CA Dem Convention, he is launching a direct attack on centrism, which will include Biden, Harris, Mayor Peter and the Democratic Establishment.  Bernie does not have to attack Biden directly right now.  He needs to undermine the centrist or moderate arguments in light of the 2 main crisis that were are in now: healthcare and climate.  By doing so, he will weaken the foundation that supports Biden, Harris and the Democratic Establishment and hopefully by IA next year, their foundation will sink with them in it.

        --tmbarton1961

        • #73583
          MistaP
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          Repub Lite doesn’t have arguments, they just prevented challenges and told us this was the best we could get, so be grateful and quit fucking complaining

          Obama and Biden are now cornered into saying “no you can’t”: give up, stop dreaming, stop asking, just stop needing; our continued breathing isn’t anything compared to a politician’s comfort when being ferried between fundraisers

          Trump of course will just say when opposing Biden’s elaborate retroactive 50-state mandatory buy-in not-public option and say “fuck it, let’s do what Australia does,” because he’s backed that since his 2000 run

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