Julian Assange can be extradited to US to face espionage charges, court rules

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    • #459901
      alcina
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      Julian Assange can be extradited to the US, the high court has ruled as it overturned a judgment earlier this year.

      The decision deals a major blow to the WikiLeaks co-founder’s efforts to prevent his extradition to the US to face espionage charges, although his fiancee immediately indicated that an appeal would be launched.

      The senior judges found that a then-district judge had based her decision earlier this year on the risk of Assange being held in highly restrictive prison conditions if extradited.

      But in their ruling on Friday, they sided with the US authorities after a near-unprecedented package of assurances were put forward that Assange would not face those strictest measures either pre-trial or post-conviction unless he committed an act in the future that required them.

      https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/10/julian-assange-can-be-extradited-to-us-to-face-espionage-charges-court-rules

      "The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." -Julius Nyerere, First President of Tanzania

    • #459902
      NV Wino
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      Travesty of “justice”

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

      • #459907
        alcina
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        Yup. The last paragraph of the article made me want to vomit.

        Lord Burnett of Maldon, lord chief justice, and Lord Justice Holroyde added in their ruling: “There is no reason why this court should not accept the assurances as meaning what they say. There is no basis for assuming that the USA has not given the assurances in good faith.”

        Of course, these “assurances” have a huge loophole: Assange would not face those strictest measures either pre-trial or post-conviction unless he committed an act in the future that required them.

        Well, Assange being the superhuman criminal mastermind that he is, I’m certain he’ll do something quite soon to require the “strictest measures.” And did you notice the change in wording about serving his time in an Australian prison? A few weeks back, the news was reporting that he would be transferred to an Australian prison. Now, well, they’ll “consent to an application” to be transferred. That’s mighty big of them. I’m sure they’ll give that application all the honest consideration is deserves…before denying it and sending him to oblivion.

        "The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them." -Julius Nyerere, First President of Tanzania

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      soryang
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      The lower court decision wasn’t any better in legal terms. The UK is a country of law?

      “How can it be fair, how can it be right, how can it be possible, to extradite Julian to the very country which plotted to kill him?”

      “This is an utterly shameful development that has alarming implications not only for Assange’s mental health, but also for journalism and press freedom around the world.”

      I still don’t understand the basis for US jurisdiction over Assange. Is it within the jurisdiction of US courts to prosecute anyone in the world no matter where they are?

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      • #459935
        salemcourt
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        Can China and Russia prosecute CIA persons within the US since they are spying on them, and if they go to an allied country, demand extradition?

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          soryang
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          Exactly.

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    • #459906
      kelly
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      I can only hope they have done a nice job cleaning Epstein’s cell, and I truly hope the response they receive surprises them.

      Although, the darkness of their intentions doesnt leave a lot of room for worries.

    • #459908
      djean111
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      Fuckers.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" Baelish

      VFTBNMW is, IMO, literally "take the blue pill".

    • #459910
      Utopian Leftist
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      Or Journalism at any rate.

      I’m afraid it’s curtains for Julian, too. He survived Belmarsh but he will not survive Gitmo or whatever hell hole he will be disappeared into.

      “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ~ Krishnamurti
      "Given the choice between a Republican and a Democrat who acts like a Republican, the voter will choose a Republican every time." ~ Harry Truman

    • #459929
      snot
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      we learn that, at least under U.K. and U.S. law, the most fundamental of all human rights – freedom of speech – is effectively dead.

      Destruction is easy; creation is hard, but more interesting.

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      mrdmk
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      The High Court allowed the U.S. appeal to reverse an order not to extradite Julian Assange and to send the case back to magistrate’s court.

      By Joe Lauria

       

      The High Court in London on Friday ruled in the U.S. appeal against a lower court decision not to extradite imprisoned WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange by sending the case back to Magistrate’s Court with instructions to send the case to the secretary of state to decide on Assange’s extradition.

      The matter is now in the hands of the home secretary, Pritti Patel, unless Assange’s lawyers appeal the decision to the U.K. Supreme Court, which they have said they will do. If extradited, Assange faces up to 175 years in prison on charges under the Espionage Act and one count of conspiracy to commit computer intrusion. Assange is the first journalist to be charged with espionage by the U.S. for obtaining and publishing state secrets.

      Lord Justice Timothy Holroyde, who read the High Court’s summary decision in court in nine minutes, said the order by a lower court to discharge Assange was overturned and that he was to remain on remand in prison.  Holroyde said that the High Court had accepted the U.S. assurances that Assange would not be kept in harsh prison conditions in the U.S. He called them “solemn undertakings from one government to another.”

      The High Court was satisfied, Holroyde said, that Assange would not be held under Special Administrative Measures or sent to ADX Florence maximum security prison in Colorado, that Assange would receive adequate medical treatment while incarcerated and that he could serve his post-trial and post-appeal sentence in his native Australia.

      LINK–ConsortiumNews, Assange Loses, High Court Allows US Appeal; Quashes Assange’s Discharge

       

      I am sadden, not surprised by this ruling. Was in London, U.K. in 2006 when there seem to be a change in the air. The Londoners were pleasant and warm. So over the years I have watching/looking for News about the trends in the U.K. It has been on the same track there as here, in a slightly different manner. The news entailment has been promoting propaganda, the severe right turn of the government and a couple of months ago millions turned out into the streets to protest (this was not in the U.S. news media).

      My belief is, the U.K. is more of a powered keg than the U.S. is at this moment, and for good reason. The people there know that they are being used and manipulated. This ruling will not help in the cause of keeping the people peaceful.

      If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit WC Fields

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      • #460151
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Sounds like it’s time to remind the British ruling class that the English people are perfectly capable of putting their leaders’ heads on poles. If they let the Americans do this to Assange, they can let them do it to anyone, even a British citizen.

        That won’t set well with many British people, and it shouldn’t.

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

        The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #459960
      Mindwalker
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      You fuck with powerful people and law don’t mean squat.  Lots of people are behind military stuff, and they don’t want that interrupted.  Laws are not going to stand in the way of profits but exposing our breaking the laws looks bad.  Donziger is another obvious case of fucking with the wrong people.

      Rule of law is a joke.  This country is a joke.

    • #459962
      jbnw
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      Oh, yea – no mean tweets. Mostly because I doubt Biden knows how to tweet . . .

    • #459987
      srobert
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      Once extradited, Assange’s last chance would be with an American jury. I imagine some in our MIC will consider jury tampering as a patriotic duty. Anyone voting not guilty might find themselves, or their loved ones, facing an extraordinary rendition to God knows where.

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