Just no, Joe: For The Next 3 Months, All Americans Should Wear A Mask When Outside

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    • #347513
      jbnw
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      From NPR: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/08/13/902257311/joe-biden-for-the-next-3-months-all-americans-should-wear-a-mask-when-outside

      Joe Biden is calling for everyone in the United States to wear a mask, well into the fall.

      “Every single American should be wearing a mask when they’re outside for the next three months, at a minimum,” Biden said Thursday afternoon in remarks in Wilmington, Del. “Every governor should mandate mandatory mask-wearing. The estimates by the experts are it will save over 40,000 lives.”

      To me, this shows Joe has no understanding of the United States, or even of policy. Not all of the United States is a congested urban area. I live in Oregon – I can walk half a mile to a coffee shop without seeing anyone. Why is a mask necessary?

      So policy takes details – is it required in your back yard? In isolated areas? Or just in congested areas? Or do you really mean any time outside – even with no else visible?

      Yes, I put my mask on when I am inside a business. That’s a policy I can understand the reasons for and follow.

    • #347518
      leftcoast mountains
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      someone. I think this put a mask on no matter where you are, one size fits all approach, is just to make it simpler for the ones issuing the order/request. Downside it just eggs the “no mask no matter where people” on. It’s dumb.

      vote for nobody

    • #347520
      djean111
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      This way he can say he did something.  Was Zeke in the background hissing – “unless you are poor and over 75”?

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

    • #347524
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Get the people who seldom go outside anyway to bleat about someone walking their dog on the sidewalk with no one nearby not wearing a mask. Or get neighbors turning in neighbors for having a BBQ with no masks. Then diehard Democrats can go online and prate about their righteousness, and Trump can stir up Republicans again.

      Bah.

      Or it’s just Biden’s dementia coming through.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #347539
      A Simple Game
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      And my staff say it’s harder to see the confused look on my face when I wear a mask.  So let’s give me an excuse for having to wear one all the time.

    • #348307
      Bernice Ta
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      I’ve seen people wearing theirs in their car. Alone. Why?

      Edited to add:   I put the mask on if there are people close by, within the six feet. Not otherwise.

    • #348485
      retired liberal
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      At least they are wearing masks. It is the people not wearing masks around other people that deserve our scorn.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #348511
      Piperay
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      want to continually  take the mask off and on 😷 so they leave it on in the car. 🤔

    • #348515
      Mick063
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      I wear a mask symbolically. It represents the importance I place on societal responsibility. It is a visual message I deliver whether or not it makes sense in every scenario.

      There is something to be said for symbolic representation. For example, if religious zealots were to attempt to convince me that Jonah survived inside of a whale symbolically, I would have a reasonable starting point to begin understand their viewpoint. But no!!! They want me to believe that Jonah literally survived his adventure from within a whales belly.

      Why is this important?

      Because you cannot explain how Jonah’s adventure literally happened without being a science denier and denying science is why we cannot collectively get a grip on the pandemic.

      Been awhile since I have been here at JPR. I can see that I don’t really align much anymore. If you can’t understand how dangerous Donald Trump is because of some weird need to relive 2016, then you are truly a political outlier and political outliers wield zero power. Bernie knows this. Hence, Bernie gives the appearance of capitulation when he is actually maximizing his political power. (Bernie is commanding the starship Enterprise and Scottie doesn’t have any more power to give). Admittedly, I’m not big on identity politics or corporate donations, but those are issues that pale in comparison to the dangers presented by the moronic orange buffoon. I can live to fight those other ideological battles another day. AOC and folks like her will eventually have their day in the sun……only if Trump doesn’t destroy our staggered Democracy first.

      "I welcome their hatred" Franklin D Roosevelt

    • #348537
      JonLP
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      I have worn a mask in my car only when I went through a drive-thru. Paranoia isn’t a new thing for me but I haven’t caught the corona virus yet.

      Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

    • #348539
      Ohio Barbarian
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      @jonlp I’ve already had it, and have to work with the public every day as an essential worker, so if I were as paranoid as some I’d really drive myself crazy. I simply cannot be all super-paranoid and still function.  I mask when required, but in a drive-through? No, just no.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

    • #348541
      Fasttense
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      If it triggers anti-maskers then so sad, too bad.

      Had some stupid triggered anti-masker trying to chase me down in my car for wearing my mask. Seems they want to force me to join them in their bizarre infectious nightmare….

      Why do anti-maskers want to force me to NOT wear a mask?

      You have a right to not wear a mask and infect everyone around you. I have a right to wear a mask whereever I want.

      And I got me some N95 masks because idiots are everywhere.

      I’ve had Covid and am still suffering from blood clot damage. The doctor says I may be suffering with it for the rest of my life. The so called immunity of antibodies or T cells doesn’t show to be very effective, so no herd immunity.

      I will not join on this macabre infectious dance with a deadly and permanently damaging disease just because the current facist in charge, selected by the filthy rich, would rather do nothing while the world battles a pandemic.

    • #348604
      retired liberal
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      Why take the mask off, when I have to put it back on in a few minutes, like when I’m are running errands? What is the big deal with some people’s problem with other people wearing masks in cars anyway. Who cares?
      There are 170,000 people dead so far in this country. Most of those dead can be traced back to people not wearing masks when they should have. That is a fact!
      I’m 76, with diabetes. My significant other has breathing problems. If either one of us get the COVID-19 virus, we are both dead. Neither one of us are ready to be dead yet. I will decide when I wear my mask, not someone else.
      So yeah, I have a reason to be a little paranoid. More people should be paranoid and wear their masks more often and then this pandemic would not be so bad in this country.
      BTY, I don’t wear a mask when mowing the lawn. That should make the anti-maskers happy.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
      Always wear a proper mask when out and about. The life you save could be both yours and mine.

    • #348764
      RufusTFirefly
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      There are varying perspectives on when wearing a mask is essential.

      Although I’m no authoritarian, I see that as a recipe for trouble.

      If someone without a mask walks by me on a crowded sidewalk and unexpectedly coughs or sneezes, I’m sure she didn’t do it on purpose. But frankly, that’s irrelevant. Her problem has suddenly become my problem without my consent. “Oh, gee. I’m sorry,” provides cold comfort.

      Reminds me of the leash laws in our town. A man arrived at a parking lot with his dog. Perhaps he intended to put the dog on a leash eventually. I really don’t know. Anyway, the dog dashed out of the car and ran right in front of a bicyclist, who had his one-year-old riding in a child seat. Dad had to put on the brakes to avoid the dog. He was livid. And who can blame him? In a worst case scenario, the child could’ve been badly injured just because someone thought he could personally decide when the leash law applied.

      By the way, the same thing applies to texting while driving. That’s not a problem. Until one day it is. Reminds me of the optimist who jumps off the roof of a skyscraper and is heard shouting “So far, so good!” as he falls.

      By all means: Feel free to be cavalier about your own health. It’s a free country. But don’t put my life at risk because you’re so nonchalant about your own.

       

       

       

    • #348840
      sadoldgirl
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      Should does not mean must. Even Biden has to realize that

      this is nothing more than a recommendation. But, oh, it

      sounds so “presidential”!

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