Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Champion Of Gender Equality, Dies At 87

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    • #359808
      So Far From Heaven
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      @nvwino

      I’m just workin’ my ass off on some site issues here.

      sorry

    • #359811
      Flobee1kenobi
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      There is no max number of justices. Should joe win, and the senate flips, the dems have already suggested adding 4 more justices….

      Its going to be an interesting 6 weeks for damn sure!

    • #359812
      RufusTFirefly
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      @flobee1kenobi

      What you’re proposing is called “court packing.” It might be interesting to check your history to see how that worked out when FDR tried a similar maneuver.

    • #359813
      jbnw
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      As in, who had the death of RBG just before the election?

    • #359815
      Flobee1kenobi
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      Still too many “ifs”

      It also would require dems to have a backbone, and that wont happen.

      I think they just threw it out there to make themselves look strong and smart, but they are neither.

    • #359819
      B Calm
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      The dems need to play hardball with hypocritical McConnell.  I know they have a history of letting us down time after time, so we’ll see if they learned anything.

    • #359827
      Satan
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      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #359830
      Satan
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      Says who? Says HIM!

      So there you have it… use his words against him. He asked you to!

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #359750
      NV Wino
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      https://www.npr.org/2020/09/18/100306972/justice-ruth-bader-ginsburg-champion-of-gender-equality-dies-at-87

      Damn. just Da,n.

      “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
      “Politicians and pro athletes: The only people who still get paid when they lose.” William Rivers Pitt

    • #359765
      bazukhov
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      The Right Wingers are rejoicing.

      Tell me, great captain, how do the angels sleep when the devil leaves his porch light on? Tom Waites

    • #359769
      Captain Arizona
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      The left base of the democratic party will not put up with it! Biden and schumer better stop it or else!

    • #359771
      jwirr
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      NOW it really does not matter who wins the election. They own the Supreme Court for the next 40-50 years. All they care about is their rich friends. God help us.

      jwirr

    • #359773
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      Do we have enough votes in the congress to stop them?

      jwirr

      • #359783
        Utopian Leftist
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        But we will have to use the fillibuster, the same way the Republiscum did against Obama in 2016. Which means that Schumer will have to grow a backbone, first.

        "All fascism is a result of a failure of the left to provide a viable alternative." ~ Trotsky

      • #359789
        Satan
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        ….any Cheeto appointment at this late date.

        Now if a couple more Republicans would follow suit…. especially among those who are in close elections themselves (and not in “red as a demon’s backside” states)….

        Yeah, looking right at you, Shaky Susan Collins. Now is the time to make up for your support of the drunken rapist.

        "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #359776
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      And a preemptive “Fuck the Pumas” because you know who those idiots are going to blame for this, somehow. On the other horn… if they hadn’t stolen the primary in 2016, RBG could have retired by now, and President Sanders would have appointed someone in her place as good or better.

      So in the words of Herman Cain….. “Blame yourselves”.

      And memo to Mitch McConnell…. don’t even think about it. That shell of yours ain’t fireproof.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

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      Timing couldnt be much worse.

      Not a whole lot Dems can do here unless they can turn 4 Republican votes somehow. There would have to be some major dealmaking and promises being made. But Trump is going to nominate someone. And McTurtle is going to try to ram it through. There is a million reasons for them to do it. They are afraid Trump could lose. They are afraid they could lose the majority and the Dems get rid of the filibuster. They aren’t satisfied with the rulings Justice Roberts has been making, so they will want another conservative on the court for insurance. If they don’t try, they could anger the base. etc, etc

      Im willing to bet the nominee will be a woman. Because it would be a woman replacing a woman. No chance of surprise sex assault shenanigans (ie: Kavanaugh, Thomas). And the GOP will enjoy the optics of the Democratic party and Joe Biden trying to take down a female nominee in an election where social justice is the focus.

    • #359795
      RufusTFirefly
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      Why is it that I see the potential for Ginsburg’s death to be as historically consequential as the death of German President Paul von Hindenburg in the summer of 1934?

       

    • #359796
      jerry611
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      @satan

      A spokesman for Romney is saying those reports are false, and that the Senator has made no such statements either way.

      I believe it’s false. He’s not going to forfeit bargaining power. That’d be stupid. He’ll want the Dems to promise him something first.

      • #359814
        Satan
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        If he denies Cheeto a vote for another extremist judge, I’ll release John Huntsman Sr. from Hell, so Mittens can do his “baptism for the dead’ thing and send his soul back to Kolob.

        Yeah, Huntsman was a devout Mormon, but he’s here because he created those literally damnedable styrofoam containers that all the fast food burger chains used to use back in the 1970s/80s. Somebody had to burn for all that environmental damage…. but he’s been here a while now, so I’d be willing to let him go.

        "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

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      Pastiche
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      snip –

      McConnell’s goal, maybe above all others, is to pack the courts with partisan ideologues who will protect corporations at the expense of workers, will suppress people’s right to vote, and will allow the wealthy to buy our elections. And make absolutely no mistake about it, if he gets his way in this Supreme Court fight, that will be the end of Roe v. Wade.

      Thankfully, not all Republicans agree with Mitch McConnell, especially if their past words from 2016 are any guide:

      Senator Lindsey Graham

      “I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination.”

      Senator Ted Cruz

      “It has been 80 years since a Supreme Court vacancy was nominated and confirmed in an election year. There is a long tradition that you don’t do this in an election year.”

      Senator Cory Gardner

      “I think we’re too close to the election. The president who is elected in November should be the one who makes this decision.”

      Senator Marco Rubio

      “I don’t think we should be moving on a nominee in the last year of this president’s term  —  I would say that if it was a Republican president .”

      Senator Rob Portman

      “It is common practice for the Senate to stop acting on lifetime appointments during the last year of a presidential term, and it’s been nearly 80 years since any president was permitted to immediately fill a vacancy that arose in a presidential election year.”

      And a number of senators have weighed in even more recently:

      Senator Lisa Murkowski, just yesterday:

      “I would not vote to confirm a Supreme Court nominee. We are 50 some days away from an election.”

      Senator Chuck Grassley in May:

      “You can’t have one rule for Democratic presidents and another rule for Republican presidents.”

      Senator Susan Collins very recently:

      “I think that’s too close, I really do,” when asked about appointing a justice in October.

      Every issue we care about is at stake: abortion rights, campaign finance reform, voting rights, workers’ rights, health care, LGBTQ rights, climate change, environmental rights, gun safety and more.

      Together we must do everything we can to hold the House, flip the Senate, and defeat Donald Trump. But now we also must do all we can to hold Mitch McConnell and many Republican senators to the word and let the winner of the next presidential election nominate Justice Ginsburg’s replacement.

       

      Safe and peaceful journey, Ruth

      “We’re about to have an election in which Incompetent A is going to be contesting with Incompetent B when both of them have demonstrated nothing remotely like any shred of adequacy to the scope of the problems we face.”

      Richard Wolff

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