Kamala Harris Could Deliver $15 Minimum Wage If Democrats Really Wanted It

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    • #406984
      game meat
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      I’m sure many of you know this, but just in case some are unsure or under the impression that the senate parliamentarian has the final word: The democrats definitely have the power to deliver a $15 minimum wage and are choosing not to. It is 100% up to them, and it really is that simple. Period. Anyone trying to tell you otherwise is lying.

      There’s a moment every four years when the polls are tight and certain Democrats shake their heads, marveling at the fact that so many Americans — particularly low-wage workers — still vote for the GOP. “Don’t they know we’re the working people’s party?” they say. “Republicans only care about giving tax cuts to the rich.” Next time you hear a variation on that theme, remember this moment, when Democrats had a majority in the Senate, the opportunity to raise the wage floor for millions of Americans and lift nearly a million workers out of poverty, and — faced with a minor road block — they threw their hands in the air and gave up.

      On Thursday, Senate parliamentarian Elizabeth MacDonough ruled that a $15 dollar minimum wage could not be included in Democrats’ $1.9 trillion Covid-19 relief bill, because they intend to pass it through the budget reconciliation process, which only requires a simple majority, instead of trying to convince at least 10 Republicans to support the cause.

      There was a bit of suspense in advance of MacDonough’s ruling, because, as my colleague Tim Dickinson explained, decisions like this one on the minimum wage are somewhat arbitrary: “reconciliation bills are subject to a thicket of arcane limitations… For each controversial provision, the Senate parliamentarian must find a path — as if with a divining rod — or announce, after a mysterious interlude of doleful contemplation, that the way is blocked. In this case, MacDonough found that the minimum wage hike was ‘merely incidental’ to the federal budget and therefore could not proceed.”

      President Joe Biden’s press secretary said he was “disappointed” in the outcome, but he “respects the parliamentarian’s decision and the Senate’s process.” (Biden may having been breathing a sigh of relief though — MacDonough’s ruling offered cover to two Democratic senators who said they might not support the bill if it included the wage hike: Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona.)

      https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/democrats-15-dollar-minimum-wage-vp-harris-senate-1132695/

       

    • #406986
      Hobbit709
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      “If Democrats Really Wanted It”

      I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing.

    • #406991
      Ohio Barbarian
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      Or Schumer or Pelosi or most elected Democrats, for that matter. Rolling Stone is correct–the Democrats could get it through if they really wanted to, but they don’t. It really is that simple, but the Democrat faithful will never admit it to themselves because then they’d have to admit they are either cucks or hypocrites.

      Don’t worry, though, Blue Team cheerleaders. In 2023 you really will be in the minority in the House and Senate, legitimately claim you don’t have the votes then, and blame people like me for not voting for your shitty candidates.

      It is better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.--Eugene Debs

      You can jail a revolutionary, but you can't jail the revolution.--Fred Hampton

      • #406998
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        That’s why I think Biden and co. had their toes and finger crossed, hoping the democrats would lose those georgia senate seats. The only thing that works for them is to be able to say: “we would have done…, but the mean racist republicans wouldn’t let us.”

        This is an exact replica of the period of democrat control in the obama years. If they can just hold out for two more years, they can go back to blaming everything on conservatives. And they have no motivation to change as long as enough of their voters keep voting for them anyway.

        The minimum wage is the lowest hanging fruit there is policy wise, so if they’re not even willing to do this… This isn’t even some big progressive  proposal at this point, but an issue of basic governance, the minimum action required to keep enough of the population out of poverty for society to somewhat function. It’s literally the least they could do.

        How many years have we been pushing for $15 per hour? lol. It’s not even worth what it was.

         

        • #407020
          MizzGrizz
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          ..that Joe never wanted to do anything about the minimum wage at all.

          He’s always told us who he is.Why did anybody think being President would change him?

    • #406992
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      if Kamala Harris was smart, she’d over-rule Biden and look good to the voters, and let Biden take the fall, looking forward to 2024.

      https://jackpineradicals.com/boards/topic/if-kamala-harris-was-smart/

      • #407005
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        she can’t be trusted. She’s a team player, reliable, and in the pockets of the same donors as Joe. When they are ready to toss Joe aside, then she may be allowed to break from Joe on some issues to create a better image of herself. Until then, she’ll be a puppet, much like Mike Pence.

        • #407007
          jbnw
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          Donors are more important than voters to the Democratic Party of today – and the Democratic Party since at least the 1990s.


          @jamesgordon

    • #406995
      Bearian
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      If it was on Bernie’s platform. Forget about it.

    • #406999
      GZeusH
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      LBJ could jump out of his grave tonight.   And if he does, with his next step, his foot will be up the Senate parliamentarian’s ass.

      Corporate America consists of totalitarian entities laser-focused on short-term greed.

      If you just got finessed into calling the medicine that won the 2015 Nobel Prize for its role in treating human disease ‘horse de-wormer’ then you need to sit the next couple of plays out.

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      doh1304
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    • #407021
      salemcourt
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      This canard still continues:

      All trade deals were done under Democrats.  Last minimum wage rise was under Bush.  Only time Chinese goods were levied a duty was under Trump.  Tighter border control, which deflates wages are typically under republican administration.  In 2008 all bailout went to banks and there was no ban on evictions.  The first checks for common people were the $ 600 under Trump, and if he were the president, we would have had another $ 2,000.  The new 1.9 bailout of federal, state, and local government workers (the majority of the 1.9 trillion, less than 10% direct payments to the poor), is under a democratic administration.  The new stimulus bill will automatically cut medicare, strengthening private insurance and also hurt farm subsidies (some of them which do go to small farmers).  The African American small businesses and their colleges benefitted the most under Treump, who also had the first serious criminal justice reform.

      But hey, the democrats are for the working people, vote blue, no matter who!

    • #407023
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      Democrats are strictly the party of bait and switch. Make a bunch of promises they have no intention of keeping. If the R in 2020 had been anyone other than Trump, there would be a second term Republican in the WH now. Biden won, not because anyone likes him or wants him to be President, but because Trump is so goddamned vile. There will be another R on Pennsylvania Avenue in 2024 after people wake up to the realization the Democrats have no interest in helping anyone but their wealthy donors. Where’s my $2000? LOL

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