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  • HassleCat (3490 posts)

    Kamala Harris far more progressive than Bernie Sanders.

    Yeah, l was surprised, too. But it must be true because a website called Progressive Punch rates Harris number 1, while Bernie comes in number 11. So there are ten legislators more progressive than Bernie Sanders. Odd thing is, I can’t seem to find out who funds Progressive Punch, which issues they use to rate progressive records, or even how they line up on issues like Medicare for all, banking regulation, etc.

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    • MistaP (10874 posts)

      1. remember how SV would always flog the Americans for Democratic Action

      “liberalness” scores to prove how great Carper or Bayh were? as though it measured anything other than party-line voting

      the Clinton campaign created Trump with the Pied Piper strategy (Third Way = Bell Curve)
    • bemildred (10038 posts)

      2. The Internet is the land of bullshit, bullshit rules here.

      Everyone can buy their own bullshit spreaders on the Internet, just like a dairy farmer. Fake news doesn’t begin to cover it, we have fake everything.

      It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
    • incognito (2645 posts)

      3. Their "About Us" page:

      – Who We Are
      – The Team

      Who We Are

      ProgressivePunch.org is a privately-owned website. By providing information on a broad range of issues deliberated by Congress and applying a progressive analysis to the votes cast, ProgressivePunch wants to raise public consciousness by highlighting progressive votes and exposing non-progressive votes. It also hopes to influence the future voting patterns of legislators, not only by making their votes visible and transparent, but also – as we build the website – by facilitating the transmission of messages from the public to these legislators, thanking them for good votes, chastising them for bad votes, and calling upon them to “do the right thing” as future votes arise.

      The Team

      Joshua Grossman
      The key person in ProgressivePunch is Joshua Grossman of Berkeley, CA. Joshua is a social entrepreneur. He has an extensive background in a wide variety of social change endeavors such as political campaigns, co-producing a video for PBS on the destruction of the Redwood forests in California, serving as an interpreter for earthquake rescue teams, etc. His most successful entrepreneurial venture in a more conventional sense is his co-founding of America’s largest environmentally friendly paper company, New Leaf Paper. While Joshua has not been employed by New Leaf since 1998, he retains a significant minority stake in the company. New Leaf is putting all profits into growth and Joshua derives a negligible current income stream from the company.

      Joshua has closely tracked politics in all 435 Congressional Districts across the United States since he was 13 years old. He knows the names of all the members of Congress off the top of his head, as well as their voting records and the political demography of their districts. Some of the impetus behind the web site is an effort to make much of this information as well as much additional information available to a much wider public.

      Ben Barcellos
      Ben is our brilliant, industrious programmer who keeps all the plates spinning all the time and makes it look easy to boot. He is a graduate of the University of California, Berkeley, and currently lives in Windsor, CA.


      His analysis is crap.


      • NV Wino (9211 posts)

        8. Like that says a lot. Typical neolib gibberish.

          “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee  
        • incognito (2645 posts)

          22. Exactly, but

          maybe someone with investigative abilities better than mine, can take those names and see what they’re up to? Where they’ve been? Who they’ve donated to? How close are they to Brock and the Clinton Crime Family?


      • Cleita (3544 posts)

        9. He should just stick to tree sitting because if he thinks Kamala is

        progressive and Bernie is only eleven, he really hasn’t done homework.

        • incognito (2645 posts)

          21. No kidding!

          That one analysis alone, for me, negates anything else he has to say.

          He obviously works for the RepubDem club. His funding probably comes from Brock or laundered through the PACs and DNC.

          He has zero credibility after this stupid analysis.


    • ZimInSeattle (2824 posts)

      4. Is that site an offshoot of the Onion?

      Proudly #DemExited & #LeftOut  | "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON!  |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP“People do not judge in the same way as courts of law; they do not hand down sentences, they throw thunderbolts; they do not condemn kings, they drop them back into the void; and this justice is worth just as much as that of the courts.” - Maximilien Robespierre, 7/28/1794
    • leftcoastmountains (5412 posts)

      5. The same Kamala Harris who said "no purity test"? Nonsense. I voted for her

      and wish I hadn’t. Progressive she ain’t.

      #CalExit #RunBernieRun!!!
      • Piperay (922 posts)

        28. Me too, I voted for her for the Senate

        a mistake I will never ever make again! :grr:

        BERNIE SANDERS 2020
    • Enthusiast (15880 posts)

      6. "They" are desperate for the Berners to embrace Kamala.

      So “they” are trying to boost her progressive bona fides through their contrived rating system.

      It’s all fake.

      If you cannot determine where the funds originate for Progressive Punch then you know for sure it is a fake assed organization.

      "I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
      • Betty Karlson (5291 posts)

        16. That's it.

        The corrupt bitch can go to Hell, but they are pining for “anyone but Bernie”.

        Their desperate attempts are fucking pathetic. As are their preferred candidates.


        What part of “Bernie or Bust” don’t they get?

        "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
        • RufusTFirefly (4528 posts)
          Mr. Jenkins

          17. From the same people who told us that Bernie and Hillary agreed…

          … on 93 percent of their votes.

          Or something like that.

    • PFunk1 (1698 posts)

      7. We all knew Harris was the DNC prefered canadate.

      Despite the base (and much of the voting public) prefers Sanders.  And we all know it looks like they will lie, cheat, and steal to win folks over to her .  I just didn’t think they would be this blatant about it.

    • Cleita (3544 posts)

      10. More AstroTurf.

      Bet you can trace the money back to the Kamala Harris camp.

    • Smarmie Doofus (821 posts)

      11. How'd she vote on the military budget?

      If memory serves, 10 senate DEMs voted no. Was she one of them?

    • peacecorps (6286 posts)

      12. Not in my book. They do rank Heitkamp. Donnelly and Jones at the bottom of Dems

      and Collins and Murkowski at the top of the R list.

      Hard to imagine that they have Bernie rated that low, of course.

    • TheNutcracker (1604 posts)

      13. That's bullcockka! She's the establishment's puppet.

      Never ever would l vote for Harris or Booker. Jackazzes…both of them.

    • Maedhros (1324 posts)

      14. There is a difference between hollow 'progressive' platitudes

      and actual progressive actions.

      Democrats excel at the former, while avoiding the latter like the plague.

    • RufusTFirefly (4528 posts)
      Mr. Jenkins

      15. Yes! Four out of five ordinary citizens who live in the Hamptons agree!

      Calling this bullshit is an insult to bullshit.

      In 2016, her top contributors were Time Warner and 21st Century Fox. All in all, 74.38 percent of her funding ($11.2 million) came from large individual contributions, more than five times what she got from people who donated $200 or less.


    • Hobbit709 (4857 posts)

      18. My rebuttal.

      I won't shut up and I don't waste my time teaching pigs to sing
    • Coldmountaintrail (9409 posts)

      19. seems unlikely. no one has sanders' record for hanging in and pushing

      the same uncompromising line for decades.  that’s his #1 credibility point.  he doesn’t bend with the wind like certain other unnamed politicos

      and I don’t think he’s ever f**k’d anyone to get more power, in either sense of the word

    • mmonk (4068 posts)

      20. On what planet?

    • mrdmk (1041 posts)

      23. Since when?

    • Dudester (41 posts)

      24. Yeah, no

    • mick063 (2532 posts)

      25. ASTRO TURF

      The Hillary campaign……all over again.

      Don’t they ever get tired of losing?

      "I welcome their hatred"    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    • D504 (314 posts)

      26. Depends on what you mean by PROGRESSIVE…

      Bernie is  fighting a class war.(trying to)

      He has seen, as many boomers, the continued downhill slide

      of the middle-class. He is smart enough to know the cause

      and apparently forthright enough to stay with ‘us’.


      "If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." -  Fud's First law
    • Eleanors38 (1209 posts)

      27. Betcha progressive is weighed heavily toward gunzcontrol.

    • Major Hogwash (4976 posts)

      29. Is she for the legalization of cannabis?

      I wonder who would rank her more progressive than Bernie without being high?


      Trump moya marionetka ~ Putin