HassleCat (3342 posts)September 13, 2018 at 11:36 am
Kamala Harris far more progressive than Bernie Sanders.
Yeah, l was surprised, too. But it must be true because a website called Progressive Punch rates Harris number 1, while Bernie comes in number 11. So there are ten legislators more progressive than Bernie Sanders. Odd thing is, I can’t seem to find out who funds Progressive Punch, which issues they use to rate progressive records, or even how they line up on issues like Medicare for all, banking regulation, etc.Pastiche, NothingcleverjustRay, Major Hogwash and 19 othersPiperay, xynthee, avaistheone1, PennLawyer, PDiddie, snot, BillZBubb, Haikugal, daleanime, dreamnightwind, PADemD, LaaDeeDaaVA, ThomPaine, gordyfl, Half Century Man, Cleita, djean111, Enthusiast, 99thMonkey like this
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MistaP (10209 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 11:38 am
1. remember how SV would always flog the Americans for Democratic Action
“liberalness” scores to prove how great Carper or Bayh were? as though it measured anything other than party-line voting
bemildred (9319 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 11:53 am
2. The Internet is the land of bullshit, bullshit rules here.
Everyone can buy their own bullshit spreaders on the Internet, just like a dairy farmer. Fake news doesn’t begin to cover it, we have fake everything.It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
incognito (2521 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 11:58 am
3. Their "About Us" page:
– Who We Are
– The Team
Who We Are
ProgressivePunch.org is a privately-owned website. By providing information on a broad range of issues deliberated by Congress and applying a progressive analysis to the votes cast, ProgressivePunch wants to raise public consciousness by highlighting progressive votes and exposing non-progressive votes. It also hopes to influence the future voting patterns of legislators, not only by making their votes visible and transparent, but also – as we build the website – by facilitating the transmission of messages from the public to these legislators, thanking them for good votes, chastising them for bad votes, and calling upon them to “do the right thing” as future votes arise.
The key person in ProgressivePunch is Joshua Grossman of Berkeley, CA. Joshua is a social entrepreneur. He has an extensive background in a wide variety of social change endeavors such as political campaigns, co-producing a video for PBS on the destruction of the Redwood forests in California, serving as an interpreter for earthquake rescue teams, etc. His most successful entrepreneurial venture in a more conventional sense is his co-founding of America’s largest environmentally friendly paper company, New Leaf Paper. While Joshua has not been employed by New Leaf since 1998, he retains a significant minority stake in the company. New Leaf is putting all profits into growth and Joshua derives a negligible current income stream from the company.
Joshua has closely tracked politics in all 435 Congressional Districts across the United States since he was 13 years old. He knows the names of all the members of Congress off the top of his head, as well as their voting records and the political demography of their districts. Some of the impetus behind the web site is an effort to make much of this information as well as much additional information available to a much wider public.
Ben is our brilliant, industrious programmer who keeps all the plates spinning all the time and makes it look easy to boot. He is a graduate of the University of California, Berkeley, and currently lives in Windsor, CA.
His analysis is crap.
NV Wino (8466 posts) (Reply to incognito - post #3) September 13, 2018 at 12:41 pm
8. Like that says a lot. Typical neolib gibberish.“As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee
incognito (2521 posts) (Reply to NV Wino - post #8) September 13, 2018 at 4:39 pm
22. Exactly, but
maybe someone with investigative abilities better than mine, can take those names and see what they’re up to? Where they’ve been? Who they’ve donated to? How close are they to Brock and the Clinton Crime Family?
Cleita (3362 posts) (Reply to incognito - post #3) September 13, 2018 at 12:47 pm
9. He should just stick to tree sitting because if he thinks Kamala is
progressive and Bernie is only eleven, he really hasn’t done homework.
incognito (2521 posts) (Reply to Cleita - post #9) September 13, 2018 at 4:35 pm
21. No kidding!
That one analysis alone, for me, negates anything else he has to say.
He obviously works for the RepubDem club. His funding probably comes from Brock or laundered through the PACs and DNC.
He has zero credibility after this stupid analysis.
ZimInSeattle (2748 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 12:01 pm
4. Is that site an offshoot of the Onion?Proudly #DemExited & #LeftOut | "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable" - JFK | Bernie would have WON! |“Fascism is a result of the failure of the left to provide an alternative” - Leon Trotsky | Sanders/Gabbard 2020 (PPP) “People do not judge in the same way as courts of law; they do not hand down sentences, they throw thunderbolts; they do not condemn kings, they drop them back into the void; and this justice is worth just as much as that of the courts.” - Maximilien Robespierre, 7/28/1794
leftcoastmountains (4837 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 12:08 pm
5. The same Kamala Harris who said "no purity test"? Nonsense. I voted for her
and wish I hadn’t. Progressive she ain’t.#CalExit #RunBernieRun!!!
Piperay (896 posts) (Reply to leftcoastmountains - post #5) September 14, 2018 at 5:32 pm
28. Me too, I voted for her for the Senate
a mistake I will never ever make again!BERNIE SANDERS 2020
Enthusiast (15315 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 12:15 pm
6. "They" are desperate for the Berners to embrace Kamala.
So “they” are trying to boost her progressive bona fides through their contrived rating system.
It’s all fake.
If you cannot determine where the funds originate for Progressive Punch then you know for sure it is a fake assed organization."I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country." Thomas Jefferson
Betty Karlson (5055 posts) (Reply to Enthusiast - post #6) September 13, 2018 at 3:12 pm
16. That's it.
The corrupt bitch can go to Hell, but they are pining for “anyone but Bernie”.
Their desperate attempts are fucking pathetic. As are their preferred candidates.
What part of “Bernie or Bust” don’t they get?"Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
RufusTFirefly (4323 posts) (Reply to Betty Karlson - post #16) September 13, 2018 at 3:26 pm
17. From the same people who told us that Bernie and Hillary agreed…
… on 93 percent of their votes.
Or something like that.
PFunk1 (1650 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 12:25 pm
7. We all knew Harris was the DNC prefered canadate.
Despite the base (and much of the voting public) prefers Sanders. And we all know it looks like they will lie, cheat, and steal to win folks over to her . I just didn’t think they would be this blatant about it.
Cleita (3362 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 12:49 pm
Smarmie Doofus (778 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 2:01 pm
11. How'd she vote on the military budget?
If memory serves, 10 senate DEMs voted no. Was she one of them?
peacecorps (6034 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 2:18 pm
12. Not in my book. They do rank Heitkamp. Donnelly and Jones at the bottom of Dems
and Collins and Murkowski at the top of the R list.
Hard to imagine that they have Bernie rated that low, of course.
- Americans deserve to know the truth about the 2016 election. Any attempt by the president to interfere with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation or pardon Cohen or Manafort would be a very serious offense.
- It goes by many names — right-wing, fascism, nationalism, extreme conservatism, Nazi, right wing populism – but what it’s all about are stupid people taking out society’s problems on its weakest members, while sucking up to those that are the real cause of the trouble.
TheNutcracker (1600 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 2:23 pm
13. That's bullcockka! She's the establishment's puppet.
Never ever would l vote for Harris or Booker. Jackazzes…both of them.
Maedhros (1304 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 3:00 pm
14. There is a difference between hollow 'progressive' platitudes
and actual progressive actions.
Democrats excel at the former, while avoiding the latter like the plague.
RufusTFirefly (4323 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 3:05 pm
15. Yes! Four out of five ordinary citizens who live in the Hamptons agree!
Calling this bullshit is an insult to bullshit.
In 2016, her top contributors were Time Warner and 21st Century Fox. All in all, 74.38 percent of her funding ($11.2 million) came from large individual contributions, more than five times what she got from people who donated $200 or less.
Hobbit709 (4590 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 3:46 pm
Coldmountaintrail (8493 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 3:53 pm
19. seems unlikely. no one has sanders' record for hanging in and pushing
the same uncompromising line for decades. that’s his #1 credibility point. he doesn’t bend with the wind like certain other unnamed politicos
and I don’t think he’s ever f**k’d anyone to get more power, in either sense of the word
mmonk (3872 posts) (Reply to original post) September 13, 2018 at 4:16 pm
mrdmk (717 posts) (Reply to original post) September 14, 2018 at 1:08 am
mick063 (2488 posts) (Reply to original post) September 14, 2018 at 6:18 am
25. ASTRO TURF
The Hillary campaign……all over again.
Don’t they ever get tired of losing?"I welcome their hatred" Franklin D. Roosevelt
D504 (277 posts) (Reply to original post) September 14, 2018 at 9:01 am
26. Depends on what you mean by PROGRESSIVE…
Bernie is fighting a class war.(trying to)
He has seen, as many boomers, the continued downhill slide
of the middle-class. He is smart enough to know the cause
and apparently forthright enough to stay with ‘us’."If you push something hard enough, it will fall over." - Fud's First law
Eleanors38 (1209 posts) (Reply to original post) September 14, 2018 at 9:44 am
Major Hogwash (4684 posts) (Reply to original post) September 14, 2018 at 6:18 pm
29. Is she for the legalization of cannabis?
I wonder who would rank her more progressive than Bernie without being high?
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