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  • Segami (7943 posts)
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    Kavanaugh Accuser BREAKS SILENCE About Sexual Misconduct Allegations

     

    Kavanaugh Accuser BREAKS SILENCE About Sexual Misconduct Allegations

    “…The woman who has accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct has identified herself and is speaking publicly about her allegations against Kavanaugh for the first time, according to a Washington Post investigation published Sunday.

    Christine Blasey Ford, now a 51-year-old professor at Palo Alto University in California, described an incident between the two in high school, alleging that Kavanaugh pinned her to a bed one summer in the 1980s and forced himself on her

    Ford told the Post that Kavanaugh “groped her over her clothes, grinding his body against hers and clumsily attempting to pull off her one-piece bathing suit and the clothing she wore over it.” She also said Kavanaugh put his hand over her mouth when she attempted to scream for help….

     

     

     

    Pastiche, eridani, PADemD and 9 othersUtopian Leftist, kath, NV Wino, PDiddie, chknltl, twenty, jwirr, Paper Roses, Major Hogwash like this
      “...There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life...” ― Frank Zappa

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    • Major Hogwash (4684 posts)
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      1. Kavanaugh's finished. Collins won't vote to confirm him now.

      I seriously doubt if Murkowski will vote to confirm him, either.

      They don’t have the votes to confirm him now.

       

      Trump moya marionetka ~ Putin  
      • bemildred (9319 posts)
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        2. Yeah, this ought to awake the coward in all of our Congresspersons.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
        • Major Hogwash (4684 posts)
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          5. Did you read the article? It's a quick read. She didn't want to come forward .

          . . . and have to face an onslaught of hate unleashed at her by Kavanaugh’s supporters.
          But, reporters were already snooping around her home, so since her story was being mangled by people who were already reporting on it incorrectly, she decided to come forward and tell her story herself, to set the record straight about what she said happened that night.

          Some right wingers were hoping this woman would wind up being a pig farmer’s wife in Nebraska, or a never-married clerk working at a Rite-Aid in some small town in South Dakota, someone they could dismiss rather easily.
          Instead, she’s a married college professor of psychology, who went through therapy 6 years ago because of this incident, and reluctantly came forward to tell her story now.

           

          Trump moya marionetka ~ Putin  
          • bemildred (9319 posts)
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            6. Yep, he's toast now, she wants blood.

            .

            It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
            • Segami (7943 posts)
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              7. Blood?….then what does Kavanaugh want through his silence?….

              :shrug:

                “...There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life...” ― Frank Zappa
              • bemildred (9319 posts)
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                8. You are mistaken if you think I am on Kavanaugh's side.

                I’m on her side. We can quite agree on Kavanaugh. I hope she gets him. The twitter thread went nuts fast.

                It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
      • Segami (7943 posts)
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        3. Like I said in another post,…

        …the dynamics of this allegation will change if the accuser comes forward……we have now entered the TwilightZone for this Trumpy nomination……I can’t see him surviving this development……

        :popcorn:

          “...There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life...” ― Frank Zappa
      • ThomPaine (6461 posts)
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        14. I wish. But don't count your chickens quite yet. This is a very

        important appointment and you better bet that big money is already being spent to vilify “this wretched person that would dare think to accuse a fine upstanding Christian”.  Many Christians are willing to look the other way with regard to Trump and his un-Christian behavior.  Also, this happened when he was a mere boy and everyone understands that boys will be boys.

        Sarcasm aside I hope her therapist testifies.

        • roguevalley (2751 posts)
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          28. This is a biden moment. It will be interesting to watch him try to navigate this

          minefield. He can’t hide. Groper. Anita Hill abuser.

          Be love. Be light. Fear is the only darkness. Love is the only light.
    • chknltl (947 posts)
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      4. Attn kids

      Strongly reconsider becoming a creep like creepy Kavenaugh did.

      Nuff said.

    • leftcoastmountains (4837 posts)
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      9. I would be the first to admit if I'm wrong. But as cynical as I've become, I'm

      saying it won’t make a bit of difference. Look at Clarence Thomas. The woman will be vilified etc. just like Anita Hill. I’ll admit this is more serious than what Thomas did, but all the same not sure it’s going to fly. Usually these things occur when nobody else is around.  Look at all the stupid women coming forward to say what a great guy he is, as if that means it didn’t happen. Bunch of morons. But oh so typical of a lot of women to defend the little boys.

      #CalExit #RunBernieRun!!!
      • bemildred (9319 posts)
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        10. At a minimum they are going to have to let her tell her side of it now …

        Or there will hell to pay in the next election.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
        • leftcoastmountains (4837 posts)
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          12. I'm sure it's something she does not want to do. It's not something I would

          want to do. She’s going to be attacked by a bunch of ass licking jerks and what the hell will she get out of the whole mess? I think she should have kept her mouth shut. It ain’t worth it. Just my .02!

          #CalExit #RunBernieRun!!!
          • bemildred (9319 posts)
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            13. I can see that point of view, but she seems to have decided it's worth it.

            And if you are going to endure all that, you want to do some  damage, make a dent.

            It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
      • Segami (7943 posts)
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        11. These are different and stranger times…..

        ….Back in the Clarence Thomas days, such allegations might have (more than likely) favored the man’s denials but today, sexual misconduct allegations against some industry heavyweights like Matt Lauer, Harvey Weinstein and Les Moonves ( to name a few) have seen the light of day and not been swept under the rug as they once would have been….

        :popcorn:

          “...There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life...” ― Frank Zappa
        • leftcoastmountains (4837 posts)
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          16. I hope you are right. I hope I am wrong!

          #CalExit #RunBernieRun!!!
          • Segami (7943 posts)
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            20. I surely don’t have a crystal ball to know any better….

            …but these are surely different & stranger times we’re living in where we all should begin to expect the unexpected…….the saying that reads “…never say never..” is so applicable in our current time….

            :popcorn:

              “...There is more stupidity than hydrogen in the universe, and it has a longer shelf life...” ― Frank Zappa
        • Beebee (1830 posts)
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          21. A lot has changed since Anita Hill so bravely came forward

          and it’s a story that has not been forgot since that day by many of us.

          I’m not sure it wasn’t worse as this is something she had to suffer at her workplace on a regular basis and not just once at some drunken teenager party. Not that either are good.

           

          Sorry Segami, this was meant for a reply to Leftcoastmountains post #9, not yours.

           

          "confrontation of the self is as important as with others. we have to be ready to be surprised by unexpected rhetoric, or even possible communion, with those previously seen as impossible." NuttyFluffers
      • NV Wino (8467 posts)
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        23. I think the GOP should be required to call each of those 65 women

        to testify, under oath. If they support him so much, surely that is the least they can do. Assuming, of course, they actually exist and can be found.

          “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee  
        • leftcoastmountains (4837 posts)
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          25. Who the hell knows 65 women or men. I mean I do tend to be a little reclusive

          but 65 people? Not only that but I heard he went to an all boys high school.

          #CalExit #RunBernieRun!!!
          • NV Wino (8467 posts)
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            26. Well, I know 65 people…

            They, however, don’t know me. :rofl:

              “As we act, let us not become the evil that we deplore.” Barbara Lee  
          • PADemD (1699 posts)
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            34. Maybe they're Facebook friends.

            Or friends of Facebook friends.

      • Ohio Barbarian (10893 posts)
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        27. You may be right. But Thomas was then, Kavanaugh's now. The #MeToo

        movement didn’t exist then, and Reagan didn’t have an approval rating under 40%, so those things are different. I certainly don’t know what will happen to this nomination yet, except it is now possible it may fail when it wasn’t just a week ago.

        I hope it does fail.

        Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.
      • roguevalley (2751 posts)
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        29. #Me Too will temper that. This isnt then.

        Be love. Be light. Fear is the only darkness. Love is the only light.
    • bemildred (9319 posts)
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      15. Feinstein backs Kavanaugh accuser's decision to go public

      Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) on Sunday said she supports Christine Blasey Ford’s decision to break her silence over sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and called for a delay on Kavanaugh’s confirmation vote while the FBI investigates the claims.

      “From the outset, I have believed these allegations were extremely serious and bear heavily on Judge Kavanaugh’s character,” Feinstein said. “However, as we have seen over the past few days, they also come at a price for the victim. I hope the attacks and shaming of her will stop and this will be treated with the seriousness it deserves.”

      “I support Mrs. Ford’s decision to share her story, and now that she has, it is in the hands of the FBI to conduct an investigation,” she continued. “This should happen before the Senate moves forward on this nominee.”

      Feinstein had been criticized for not publicizing Ford’s allegations, which Feinstein had previously learned of through a “third party,” a spokesman said last week.

      http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/406930-feinstein-calls-for-delay-on-kavanaugh-confirmation-vote-while-fbi

      It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
    • bemildred (9319 posts)
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      17. Senate Democrats call for Kavanaugh investigation

      Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee, led by ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein, are calling for a thorough investigation of the sexual assault allegation against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh before his confirmation process moves forward.

      The other side: Senate Judiciary Republicans, meanwhile, have issued a statement questioning the motives of the Democrats in bringing up the allegation on the eve of the confirmation vote via Chairman Chuck Grassley’s office: “Judge Kavanaugh’s background has been thoroughly vetted by the FBI on six different occasions throughout his decades of public service, and no such allegation ever surfaced.”

      https://www.axios.com/senate-democrats-kavanaugh-investigation-sexual-misconduct-d704ae39-2b4e-48cc-92f9-82d9dca66980.html

      It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
    • bemildred (9319 posts)
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      18. “WHY SUFFER THROUGH THE ANNIHILATION IF IT’S NOT GOING TO MATTER?”

      http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/09/suffer-annihilation-not-going-matter

      It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
      • jerry611 (495 posts)

        30. It matters?

        It didn’t derail Clarence Thomas.

        But frankly, everyone sees this as a political Hail Mary. Feinstein had this info for a while. She could have released it back in July. Sure Trump would have picked someone else, but it wouldn’t be Kavanaugh. But it appears as though she sat on it intentionally so she can use it as a political football. She didn’t even tell the others on the committee. The timing looks real bad. And now, the GOP has to confirm this guy. And they will, I assure you. The best way for this to matter would have been come out with this in July. His nomination would have been pulled. Now it is too late.

    • bemildred (9319 posts)
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      19. California professor, writer of confidential Brett Kavanaugh letter, speaks out

      California professor, writer of confidential Brett Kavanaugh letter, speaks out about her allegation of sexual assault

      BREAKING: Senate Republicans signaled they plan to move ahead on Brett Kavanaugh’s nomination despite a decades-old sexual misconduct allegation.

      The statement from Judiciary Committee Republicans came shortly after The Washington Post published a story Sunday afternoon that included an on-the-record interview with the woman alleging the sexual misconduct, Christine Blasey Ford. The committee Republicans said it was disturbing that the allegation was never brought to the attention of the full panel previously.

      Democrats led by Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (N.Y.) called for the committee vote to be postponed. The panel is scheduled to vote on Thursday.

      This story will be updating.

       

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/california-professor-writer-of-confidential-brett-kavanaugh-letter-speaks-out-about-her-allegation-of-sexual-assault/2018/09/16/46982194-b846-11e8-94eb-3bd52dfe917b_story.html

      It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
    • Blue Meany (568 posts)

      22. I wonder what the women who signed the letter of supporting Kavanaugh

      will think or say now.  This woman was part of the same social circles when she was in high school, so she is not only no longer anonymous she is not a nobody to them.  There is just no tenable reason for her to make this up and many of them must know that.

      The circumstance also fit with everything we know about the school and Kavanaugh at this point in his life–he was heavy drinker/partier in high school and college.  Mark Judge, who was named as the other boy in the room, wrote a book describing in detail life Georgetown Prep and has also mentioned on various social media, all of which have been deleted since this issue came up.

      • ThomPaine (6461 posts)
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        36. I will send Grassley my name, to be honest I've never seen Kavanaugh

        rape anyone.

    • doh1304 (985 posts)

      24. Personally I'm in camp cynical

      In the first place she’s a “lying liberal feminist California college professor” who popped up at the last minute, denying Kavanaugh the time to prepare a defense. No, no one in the senate will say this, but no one has to. And by the way, with identity politics as it is, this is actually a legitimate concern.

      Second, she was brought up by Diane Feinstein, who is capable of anything, provided that she benefits and everyone else (everyone who can’t afford her price) gets screwed.

      And most importantly, only Democrats have to fall on their swords when accused of something. Republicans are allowed to wait for it all to blow over.

    • Coldmountaintrail (8493 posts)
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      31. so if he gets dumped because of this, it means he won't be prosecuted,

      just off the bench; and he’ll never be prosecuted for perjury, and the dirt on his career as a political operative will never get wide play.

      which means he’ll be back in action, maybe even back in the courts, in just a few years, soon as everyone’s forgotten and there’s nothing legal on the record.

      has anyone noticed what a sad sack he appears to be in most of his pictures?

      • jerry611 (495 posts)

        32. Practically impossible to prove

        True that Maryland has no statue of limitations for this so he could face 20 years in prison. But…This happened over 30 years ago. Getting juries to convict in rape cases where there is nothing other than the woman’s accusation is extremely difficult. With it being this long, a defense attorney would destroy her on the stand. And if she doesn’t testify, there is no case.

        • Coldmountaintrail (8493 posts)
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          33. it's just enough to get him out, but not enough to put down any tracks in

          the legal system.  unlike a perjury rap, or continuing publicity and documentation about his career as a right-wing operative, or a file of his far-right court rulings and the damage done.

          none of which the media or the committee has done much to further.

          I can only conclude that sexcrime is the chosen method  when elites want to remove someone.  they actually don’t care much about sexcrime because most of them do it; but it upsets the little people and creates good cover for the ongoing power games.

          • jerry611 (495 posts)

            35. The elites have their own justice system

            The rich and the elites never go to jail…unless other elites want them to. They are only accountable to themselves.

    • Tierra y Libertad (2870 posts)
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      37. Oh, well. Boys will be boys. Nudge, nudge, wink wink.

      Even the president of the United States of America likes to grab girls by their pussies.

       

      But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants is the liberty of appearing. Thomas Paine

       
      • LibDemAlways (324 posts)

        38. From a right wing 75-year-old woman on Facebook

        Just terrible that a wonderful family man is being dragged through the mud by a liberal Democrat feminist for kissing her 35 years ago. Couples have been necking in cars forever. What’s the big deal?

        Willful ignorance is the mark of a diehard Republican. This is the result of excessive viewing of Faux News. She’s one of those whose support for Trump would only grow if he did shoot someone on 5th Avenue — and she’d be even happier if the target was Hispanic or a Muslim.

         

        The people who make a difference are not the ones with the credentials but the ones with the concern....Max Lucado