Last Stand in the Big Woods

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    • #320102
      sonofspy777
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      “Every time I’ve compromised, I’ve lost.  When I held firm I won.  The problem with too many environmentalists today is that they are trying to write the compromise instead of letting those we pay to compromise do it.  They think they get power by taking people to lunch or being taken to lunch, when in reality they are only being taken.”

      — David R. Brower

      There was no reason it had to come down like this: Two militant greens standing in the middle of an isolated, snow-crusted road in a place where a road should never be; bracing their bodies against a train of logging trucks, snowmobiles, and Forest Service jeeps groaning at the gate, demanding entry; willingly subjecting themselves to arrest by Idaho troopers armed with guns, clubs, and a draconian and sub-constitutional new law. All in a last-gasp attempt to halt a vastly destructive timber sale in the heart of the nation’s largest roadless area, a timber sale two federal judges had already found to be a brazen assault on our national environmental laws.

      Charged with felony conspiracy to commit a misdemeanor, Mike Roselle, a founder of Earth First!, and Tom Fullum, of the Native Forest Network, now face possible five-year prison terms and $50,000 fines under Idaho’s so-called Earth First! Statute – a law geared to smother popular dissent against the transgressions of multinational timber companies by slamming the jailhouse door on anyone bold enough to bodily protest logging on federal lands in the Potato Atate. The bill was signed into law in 1993 by then-Governor Cecil Andrus, a noted liberal who called the Cove/ Mallard protesters “just a bunch of kooks.”

      The proximate cause of Roselle’s and Fullum’s travails, and a new round of logging in the Cove/Mallard Roadless Area, is an act of organizational cowardice committed by one of the country’s oldest and wealthiest environmental corporations: The Wilderness Society.

      https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/05/28/last-stand-in-the-big-woods-2/

      Bernie figured he could do more good ALIVE,
      than dead in a small plane "accident".
      I think he's right.

      Don't you?

    • #320115
      HassleCat
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      The taxpayers plant the tree, grow the trees, lay out the timber sales, build the logging roads, burn the slash, plant new trees, and protect the tress until they grow big enough to start the whole cycle all over again. There are a few national forests where this makes sense, in places where the trees grow fast and the forest can recover from the abuse we throw at it. In so many forests, all we are doing is spending tax dollars to ruin the environment, pollute streams, erode steep hillsides, wipe out wildlife habitat, and generally shit where we eat.

      • #320126

        @hasslecat , this isn’t totally true.

        The feds hold timber sales. The timber is in essence auctioned off.

        Now, I’m not saying that they get the best price, but considering what I’ve seen of them, it seemed fair.

        The biggest problem we have is when it was sales driving production and the forest lost because of the frantic purchasing. You have to add in the fact that private forests are exempt from all of this, and the biggest rape occurred when places like Weyrhouser (sp?) bought millions of acres and then clear cut it.

    • #320148
      retired liberal
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      There is so little of that left.

      We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.

      If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.

      Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…

      • #320162
        PolecatHollerer
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        If you give a man enough rope, it will be six inches too short. This is not the nature of rope- it is the nature of man.

    • #320180
      Earthartist
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      No surprise  sadly Sierra club is the same .  The Sierra club in washington is run by a good old boy who hides behind the curtain.  He has done everything he can to help both the timber industry and shellfish industry.  He is such a classic male chauvinist. He would try and sneak industry people onto the board or onto the conservation committee.  He then started using the whole issue of minorities to stop protests, or just slow everything down until you could drum up enough minorities, which you never could because 1. Washington and oregon do not have huge African American or native populations. 2. They are not interested in a do nothing organization. 3. Youth are not going to these old organizations, because they are really run by old white people who are not stellar at the tubes. While I was their the membership dropped and most groups are barely hanging on.  I have 0 respect for these big NGOs  and no longer give to any of them. Go local.   Even 350 national is doing it again trying to shove Biden down our throat.  I have never given to them because of Sierra, I did give to our local group as the money stays there they do not have to give any of it to national.

      Earthartist

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