Lavrov: Kiev will not be allowed to return to negotiations with Russia

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      jbnw
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      Strongly worded from Telegram channel:

      Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stressed that Moscow does not see the possibility of allowing Ukraine to return to negotiations with Russia.

      https://t.me/DonbassDevushka/12140

      Translated from Izvestia:

      Lavrov accused the United States of obstructing Ukraine’s negotiations with Russia

      Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov: The United States and Britain do not allow Kiev to negotiate with Moscow

      The Russian Foreign Ministry has doubts about the prospect of resuming negotiations with Ukraine. This was announced on Thursday, June 23, by the head of the department Sergey Lavrov.

      “I don’t see the possibility that they will be allowed to take advantage of the return to the negotiation procedure,” he explained in an interview with the National State Television and Radio Company of Belarus.

      Lavrov noted that European states are pushing Kiev to engage in dialogue with Moscow, but this is being hindered by the United Kingdom and the United States.

      https://iz (dot) ru/1354553/2022-06-23/lavrov-obvinil-ssha-v-prepiatstvovanii-peregovorov-ukrainy-s-rossiei

    • #492711
      djean111
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      So he will keep on sacrificing Ukrainians.  And our economy.  And food for everybody.  Perhaps he sees himself as Tom Cruise making a comeback or something.  And the MIC and the weapons makers are encouraging him, and likely the DNC consultants are telling him this will help his numbers.  IMO and all that.

      The headline implies that Russia is against negotiations, when it is the US and UK that are the problem.  That, and Zelensky’s swollen ego.

      America is not a country, it's just a business. (Brad Pitt, Killing Them Softly)

      "Sometimes when I try to understand a person's motives, I play a little game. I assume the worst. What's the worst reason they could possibly have for saying what they say and doing what they do? Then I ask myself, 'How well does that reason explain what they say and what they do?'" GRRM

      A YouTube comment – we need new conspiracy theories – the old ones have all come true.

      • #492715
        jbnw
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        even though it was a Telegram channel, from a woman in Donbass.

        And looking at the comments, most interpreted it that way, and seemed those who read it were pleased by that interpretation.

      • #492766
        MistaP
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        Barry Seal ran Contra guns to El Salvador and then continued to Venezuela for his “payment” to land in Florida and Arkansas; Ollie North even had the balls/gall to have him stop over, photograph his US-approved plane being loaded, and blame the Sandinistas for poisoning our inner cities

        North personally oversaw the cocaine-for-arms era of illegal funding, but it was only admitted 1989 and he was pardoned 1992, so it subsided into the whole “hologram lizards in red dresses/Jewish space lasers” category; he also kept pardoning Mexico’s “Alexander the Great” of cocaine until he dibbled Kiki Camarena and gave us Red Ribbon week–that’s when they turned to Iranian funding and Casey’s brain popped

        https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB113/index.htm

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine_Bear

    • #492719
      David the Gnome
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      I don’t know how true it is, but I’ve heard/read that Biden’s advisors are split roughly down the middle.  One half wants to stop the war, or at least stop supporting it, but the other wants to get more involved.  If this is true, I suspect that giving the Ukrainians weapons and money is the middle ground.

      If the old fool was any more of a hawk than he is, I suspect we’d have a lot of boots on the ground – or already have had the mushroom clouds..

    • #492741
      soryang
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      Biden’s “fight smart” routine is too much. Heavy on resources, threats, expansionism, sanctions, etc. It lacks finesse, the Eastern European/NATO faction has no grasp and neither does the resident. My guess is that it is the CIA that is against this heavy handed approach (now that it’s a failure in terms of cost benefit analysis). Subversion and regime change are more subtle and don’t carry the strategic costs. At least that is what they think. Only speculation on my part.

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