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    Leaked UAE emails: Saudi Arabia came close to 'conquering' Qatar

    Leaked message purportedly sent from Emirati ambassador to the US, Yousef al-Otaiba, says a takeover would ‘solve everyone’s problems’

    9/14/2017

    Saudi Arabia came close to “conquering” Qatar, according to a recent email purportedly sent by the Emirati ambassador to the US, Yousef al-Otaiba.

    The claim came in a new batch of leaked emails, released online overnight on Wednesday, by an unknown party.

    In a May 2017 email thread with former US diplomat Elliot Abrams, Otaiba writes that conquering Qatar would “solve everyone’s problems. Literally. And King Abdullah of Saudi came pretty close to doing something in Qatar a few months before he passed” in January 2015.

    Abrams, clearly surprised, replies: “I didn’t know that. Dramatic!”

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi-arabia-came-close-conquering-qatar-new-leaked-emails-show-1491607860

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    1. 'F***in' coo coo': UAE envoy mocks Saudi leadership in leaked email ( 8/2017)

    The UAE’s ambassador to Washington described Saudi Arabia’s leadership as “f***in’ coo coo!” in one of a series of leaked emails that suggests years of Emirati frustration with Riyadh’s old regime had coalesced into a strategy to support the rise of young Mohammed bin Salman.

    The messages, obtained by Middle East Eye through the GlobalLeaks hacking group, show Otaiba mocking Saudi Arabia to his Egyptian wife, Abeer Shoukry, over the Saudi religious police’s 2008 decision to ban red roses on Valentine’s Day.

    http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/fing-cuckoo-uae-ambassador-ridicules-saudi-leaders-leaked-emails-925239451

  • bemildred (4725 posts)
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    2. Thank you for this!

    It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
    • Jefferson23 (6582 posts)
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      3. You're welcome, bemildred.

      My favorite snip* “Foreigners won’t interfere,” he adds. “Promise the Indians a raise, promise the police a raise and who is going to fight to the death?,” he writes, presumably referring to Qatar’s high migrant population of south Asian workers.

      Otaiba replies: “That was the conclusion. It would be an easy lift.”

      Where have I heard that logic/plan before? Unreal.

      • bemildred (4725 posts)
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        4. I had the feeling they just wanted to take ownership.

        That that was the idea when they first went after Qatar: “surrender now”. An ultimatum. Seems very naive, in the circumstances.

        All that gas, just when gas was getting hot. All that cash in the sovereign wealth fund. It must have looked attractive with the costs of MbS “mistakes” piling up. And Trump was his buddy.

        I understand that the “rivalry” has a history in tribal politics too.

        Trump has the uncanny ability to just rip the scabs off of these long ignored disputes and disagreements.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.
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          5. Yes. What I like about leaks is how it demonstrates in their own words

          the contempt they have for people….of any tribe. ” It would be an easy lift.”

          Freakin’ amazing.

          • bemildred (4725 posts)
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            9. Plus which what MbS is trying to do in SA is not unlike what Tamim did in Qatar.

            He wants to take over from his Dad, be the young up-and-comer.

            But he doesn’t look up to the job, which makes me wonder why did his Dad, the old King, pick him to move to the head of the line, he had lots of other offspring.

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              11. Good question.

              Qatari emir says he is ready to sit at a negotiating table to solve the three-month-long regional crisis.

              Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani is on his first foreign trip since Qatar’s diplomatic rift with its Arab neighbours.

              “As you know we have had a siege of more than 100 days against Qatar,” Sheikh Tamim said at a joint news conference with German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin on Friday.

              “We spoke about Qatar’s readiness to sit at the table to solve this issue.”

              Merkel’s government has announced efforts to mediate in the crisis, which saw Saudi Arabia, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain severing diplomatic and transport ties with Qatar in June.

              http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/09/sheikh-tamim-qatar-ready-solve-gcc-crisis-170915101447188.html

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    6. "You Rabid Dogs!": Watch As Screaming Arab League Members Accuse Each Other Of T

    Currently Qatar is being boycotted by four other Arab states and the once strong Gulf Cooperation Council alliance (GCC) is in shambles. Qatar’s Minister of State for Foreign Affairs Sultan bin Saad al-Muraikhi immediately raised the boycott in his opening remarks though the dispute was supposed to be carefully avoided and wasn’t on the agenda. He called Qatar’s gulf enemies, especially Saudi Arabia, “rabid dogs”.

    “Even the animals were not spared, you sent them out savagely,” Muraikhi said, referring to the fact that camels of Qatari farmers in Saudi Arabia were left to roam and die in the open desert along the border area between the two countries. The Emirati foreign minister countered, “Fifty-nine terrorists are residing and settled in Qatar or have ties to Qatar. A large number of them are named as terrorists by the Americans and another group are labelled terrorists by the European Union and a third group are labelled as terrorists by the United Nations. And yet another group are on the terror list of Arab countries.”

     

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-14/you-rabid-dogs-watch-sreaming-arab-league-members-accuse-each-other-terrorism

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    7. Saudi crown prince tries to consolidate power with string of arrests

    Saudi Arabia’s crown prince, Mohammed bin Salman, has launched a broad crackdown on dissent, targeting clerics, public critics and political rivals, as he moves to consolidate his newfound power amid a standoff with Qatar.

    The campaign has led to the detention of up to 10 popular clerics – the biggest mass arrest of its kind in the kingdom’s recent history. It follows a failed recent attempt to end the three-month feud between Riyadh and its tiny neighbour, which has defied calls to sever links with the Muslim Brotherhood and Iran, whom the oil-rich state and its allies in the Gulf view as subversive threats.

    The clampdown also comes amid ongoing speculation that Prince Mohammed is positioning himself for an ascension to the throne, perhaps as early as the first half of next year. The claim has been strongly denied by the royal court. However, figures close to the seat of power insist that plans have been made for an accession – but on terms to be set by the incumbent monarch, King Salman, the crown prince’s father.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/14/saudi-crown-prince-consolidate-power-arrests-clerics-mohammed-bin-salman

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      8. Yemen's Houthi leader says could target Saudi oil tankers if Hodeidah attacked

      9/14/2017 6 hours ago

      DUBAI (Reuters) – Yemen’s Houthi leader Abdel-Malek al-Houthi said on Thursday his group could target Saudi oil tankers should Saudi Arabia attack Yemen’s main port at Hodeidah.

      “We could target Saudi oil tankers and we could do anything,” he said.

      In a televised speech, the leader also said his group’s ballistic missiles were capable of reaching the United Arab Emirates’ capital of Abu Dhabi and anywhere inside Saudi Arabia.

      It was unclear whether the Houthi group has the capability to carry out its threats.

      http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security/yemens-houthi-leader-says-could-target-saudi-oil-tankers-if-hodeidah-attacked-idUSKCN1BP2AF?il=0

      • bemildred (4725 posts)
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        10. It seems pretty clear the Houthis do have an abliity to carry out the threat.

        They have taken a number of ships out, and tankers are not well defended.

        It ain't the things you don't know that hurts you, it's the things you know that ain't so.