Lessons to Learn from the Coup in Bolivia

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  • #221225

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    The coup in Bolivia is devastating for the majority of the people in that country. Are their lessons to learn from it?

    Andrea Lobo writes at WSWS:

    Bolivian president Evo Morales of the Movement Toward Socialism (MAS) party was forced to resign Sunday evening by the Bolivian military in a coup backed by the United States. Last night, Morales tweeted that he is “leaving for Mexico” after that country agreed to grant him asylum.After three weeks of protests following the disputed October 20 presidential elections, the imperialist powers and their Bolivian client elite have overthrown the government of Morales. In the context of a deepening crisis of global capitalism and a resurgence of the class struggle internationally, including recent mass strikes among miners and doctors in Bolivia, the ruling class lost confidence that Morales and the MAS apparatus can continue to suppress social opposition.

    During his twelve years in office Evo Morales achieved quite a lot of good things:

    Illiteracy rates:
    2006 13.0%, 2018 2.4%

    Unemployment rates
    2006 9.2%, 2018 4.1%

    Moderate poverty rates
    2006 60.6%, 2018 34.6%

    Extreme poverty rates
    2006 38.2%, 2018 15.2%

    But Morales failed to do build the defenses that are necessary to make such changes permanent. The leadership of the military and police stood against him. Why were these men in such positions?

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    https://www.moonofalabama.org/2019/11/lessons-to-learn-from-the-coup-in-bolivia.html#more

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    Evo tarnished his good reputation by not respecting the referendum over 4th term. Not me, us.

    Aloha!

  • #221248

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    Yes, he is correct that Hugo Chavez knew how

    to protect his Bolivarian Revolution, but Castro

    was the first, and Chavez learned a lot from him.

    I was not aware that Bolivia had a lot of lithium,

    but it certainly explains a lot.

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    For whatever reason, Morales was unable to get his people in charge of the police and military, or enough of his own people within the ranks to offset their officers.

    The police aren’t surprising, since their largest concentration is in the cities where Morales was weakest. I don’t know what did or didn’t happen with the Army.

    Don’t apply that lesson to America, though. If individual contributions are any indication, Bernie Sanders is the leading candidate for our rank-and-file military, soundly beating Trump.

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    • #221311

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      @ohiobarbarian:

      I don’t know anything about the military, but a lot

      of restrictions and actions show that it has already

      been applied here. 1968 came the SCOTUS ruling

      limiting popular protests, our police was militarized

      by W and Obama, OWS was “dismantled” with clear

      permission from the WH by police as well as the

      National guard. Thus, while the military is constrained

      constitutionally from interfering in domestic uprisings,

      other militarized factions are not.

       

      • #221317

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        Unless martial law is declared. Just saying the military will defend a President Sanders. The police aren’t going to rise up against him, either, though I’m sure there are plenty them who wouldn’t mind cracking either your skull or mine.

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    • #221328

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      I found this part very provocative – there is no doubt in my mind that Bolivia will become a neo-liberal hell and a quasi dictatorship…

      Evo Morales found asylum in Mexico. Bolivia will now turn into a neoliberal hell and a quasi-dictatorship. It will take time, a lot of effort and probably a civil war to regain what was lost through this coup.

      I think the same thing would have happened in Venezuela were it not for the military alliances with Russia and China as well as  the fact that Maduro had had a very strong relationship with the military (financial incentives or whatever) and they backed him.

      But this is the comment that to me relates to the Sanders’ potential political revolution…..

      What can one learn from this?

      • As one person remarked to me: “When one wants to win and keep a socialist revolution one has to bring guillotines.” (French and Russian revolutions)
      • Socialist movements who come into power must neutralize their biggest local enemies. They need to build their own defenses. They can not rely on those institutions, like the military and police, they inherit from previous regimes.
      • A movement needs a public voice. It must build its own media locally and internationally.

      To me this raises a question that has always been in my mind – will Sanders be able to make his political omelette without breaking a few eggs?  If he doesn’t break a few eggs will his reforms go far enough to satisfy the upheaval that he is certain to release.  (collapse of the Soviet Union facing the Gorbachev reforms is an example)  Aren’t there countless powerful actors from both parties and multiple institutions that want to see Sanders’ political revolution fail….how would Sanders preserve his achievements and implement his initiatives?

      Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt......Sam Adams

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        @passionateprogressive Those are very good questions and I don’t claim to have all the answers. FDR was able to unite the vast majority of this country into the common cause of winning World War II. No one dreamed of a coup against FDR so long as the war was on.

        I think Bernie recognizes the need for a common purpose that will unite most Americans. I venture to go one step further and say that Bernie thinks of climate change as the common enemy which must be fought and adapted to, and the military would back him on this. The number one national security threat for years has been climate change, according to the Pentagon. They got kids, too.

        As for neutralizing some enemies, yes, and I think Bernie will have to break a few eggs. There’s gotta be imprisonment for some of those fuckers on Wall Street and Big Pharma. He will have to have the loyalty of federal law enforcement in case the local police buck his criminal justice reforms. We’re going to need a lot of new cops and district attorneys, and it will take a sustained popular movement to make it happen. It can. Public pressure has reformed police departments in the past and can again.

        Who would be the best attorney general for Bernie? I don’t know.

        Just saying that with the loyalty of most of the military, Bernie won’t need as many guillotines, and they hopefully won’t have to be more than figurative. The police have to be reformed and demilitarized, and there’s going to be some resistance from some police departments. It has to be overcome to meet that second condition of yours.

        As for the third, repealing the Telecommunications Act of 1996, or was it 98?, would be a good start. Restore the fairness doctrine. File antitrust suits against corporate media conglomerates. Break them up. Yeah, Bernie will need a tough SOB or just plain B to get all that done.

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        With Bernie Sanders, we have the receipts. --Nina Turner

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          Yes those are all good points and no one has the answers.

          I think that climate change is a good common enemy and that would also be my first guess at where Sanders is going and what needs to be done.  Having said that (the guillotines) – still so many deniers and this is what makes me so cynical.  Also, although I’m a fan of XR – not everyone sees their solution – on the one hand there are the techno geeks who think the problem is technology on the other there are others who think that nothing will work because the problem is stupidity and over-population….but let Sanders worry about that..

          On co-opting the military – the military and the students (youth) are essential….I think Sanders proposed to increase funding for the VA – perhaps that’s the path forward….

          Not trying to solve the puzzle just trying to figure out if it’s possible to find a light at the end of the tunnel….or not even a light but a match or two

          Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt......Sam Adams

        • #222290

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          “No one dreamed of a coup against FDR so long as the war was on.”

          ??

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

  • #221857

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    You have to cut off the monster’s head.

    The military/economic hegemony of the USA.

    The dictatorship of the USA, which says it answers to no international law.

  • #221981

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    the people of bolivia love evo, but it was time to move on, and he should have allowed a sucessor to take up the cause.

    I’ve been thinking of this quote from andrea lobo’s article

    “In the context of a deepening crisis of global capitalism and a resurgence of the class struggle internationally, including recent mass strikes among miners and doctors in Bolivia, the ruling class lost confidence that Morales and the MAS apparatus can continue to suppress social opposition.”

    the ruling class lost confidence that evo’s party could continue to suppress opposition. isn’t that really the function of the democrats in our own system?

    “my administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.” obama to wall st bankers

    “republican think tanks are where bad ideas come to life. democratic committees are where good ideas go to die.” rampart sr

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      i think a listen to the grayzone reportage is a good idea before drawing too many conclusions from reportage based mostly on the msm

  • #222050

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    We’re busy overthrowing “Socialist” presidents around the world while WE have a Democratic Socialist running for president who has MASSIVE support here and around the world. WTF are they going to do to Bernie when he wins?

     

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      The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. The great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dict ates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . .

      https://www.struggle.ws/mexico/ezln/1997/jigsaw.html

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      • #222368

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        Whoa…that link was a bleak read.

         

         

      • #223251

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        I read the link to the end.  A very nice read.

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