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  • ThomPaine (4554 posts)
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    Let's face it, it's time to unify.

    And in the spirit of unification, the Democratic Elite should eliminate the corp-asswipes that are members of the DNC.  Then they should eliminate the super-delegate system.   Now that would be a move to common ground.  Short of that, please don’t even mention “unity” or “common ground”.

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    • TRex (3135 posts)
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      1. The progressives have unified and drawn a line in the sand.

      Cheating Bernie unified all of us. I see independants are a larger number than either party at the moment. I hope that trend keeps going up. I would LOVE to watch people abandon both parties. Consider it a final no confidence vote.

      I’ve seen US come together and finally say no more to the morale beatings. That we are going to lead, California caught on fast enough.

       

       

      “The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” - Obama
      • ThomPaine (4554 posts)
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        4. I am looking for email addresses for the DNC.

        aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
        • SandersDem (755 posts)
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          9. Check Wikileaks

          seriously.

    • Marym625 (26488 posts)
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      2. It absolutely is.

      And that means fighting every last one of the money hungry corporatists.

      I don’t believe it is possible to do anything with the Democratic party. They just don’t give a shit.

      "Once the decision was made to go into Iraq as an invader and occupier,  it’s like our nation lost its conscience. And it has not yet gotten that conscience back." Madfloridian  
    • oldandhappy (3808 posts)
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      3. yep, unify! No way.

      Yes, DNC always wants unify to mean we come to them.  Big NO.  I am not doing that again.

      Invest in people.  Seek TRUTH.
      • Sherman A1 (704 posts)
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        5. I'm all ready to unify

        and await the DNC waking up to see the unified  train ? left the station long ago.

        "Be Kind; Everyone You Meet is Fighting a Great Battle." Philo of Alexandria
        • Fawke Em (4090 posts)
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          21. Choo-choo

              
          • Ohio Barbarian (5337 posts)
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            22. Sounds like wisdom is a Nader family trait. Good post.

            Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
    • 2bAnon (4163 posts)
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      6. bwhaaaaaa! Good one!

      you almost got me there.  whew.  

       

      http://jackpineradicals.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/sergiolara2-1.mp3

       
       
    • Mom Cat (14815 posts)
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      7. That would be a good start, along with single payer health care for everyone,

      a living wag for everyone, real climate change action, real infrastructure repair with massive renewabl energy programs across the country, audit the military and the fed, stop spying on citizens, real environmental protection, closing corporate loopholes, ending tax havens, making the rich pay their fair share, redistribution of the wealth stolen from the 99%! That would do for starters!

           NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
      • ThomPaine (4554 posts)
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        25. These are the very things the Democratic Party should be shouting

        from the hills instead of whining about the bad Trump and the bad Russians.

        aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
        • Mom Cat (14815 posts)
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          28. These are He things that I could unify behind.

          Russia/Putin, not so much!

               NEVER FORGET      BERNIE WON!          
    • Abelenkpe (477 posts)
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      8. Love this

      former union head on FB this morning was saying recent articles on Brazile admitting to passing on debate questions was just the media keeping the left divided. ?

      If unification is truly the goal of the DNC they need to do a lot of soul searching. Saying that want to unify with out making any changes is not going to cut it


    • so far from heaven (13314 posts)
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      10. I find it ironic

      that an organization dedicated to electing people in a democracy doesn’t even use it to get their nominees…..

      They are actually following the one percent.

      "When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun.'" -Groucho Marx.
    • PFunk1 (1237 posts)
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      11. 100-plus percent agreement

      No, I repeat no unification is possible while the current DNC, along with Clinton and her ilk are still around mucking up things (like they are still doing now).

    • Betty Karlson (4043 posts)
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      12. Let's do as they say, not do as they do.

      And indeed: that means driving them out, while reaching out to the supporters of that party – who deserve so much better than what they are offered right now.

      "Someone hacks the DNC allowing all of America to see how the DNC operates as one of the most corrupt political machines in national history. Ergo, Hillary Clinton should be installed as President by judicial fiat. And if you do not agree to this scheme you deserve to be brought up on charges of treason because fascism." - NUGrrl, december 2016 “Once a person has been determined to be an UNTRUSTWORTHY LIAR, their pretend stances on important issues are simply not relevant to rational discussion.” – Ida Briggs, September 2016
      • Jefferson23 (6989 posts)
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        16. Yes..I'm on board with that too.

    • FanBoy (7985 posts)
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      13. not going to happen. dnc will stand fast to the end or until the $ spigot stops

    • Enthusiast (10264 posts)
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      14. When they clean out the DNC, make single payer part of the platform,

      stop accepting corporate bribes and make a new Glass Steagal part of the platform I will consider the Democratic Party again.

      Till then they can get fucked.

      "The NSA’s capability at any time could be turned around on the American people, and no American would have any privacy left, such is the capability to monitor everything. There would be no place to hide."  Frank Church "When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it." - Frederic Bastiat, 1848
    • mick063 (2346 posts)
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      15. Unity will not happen until several conditions are met.

      The donor/consultant symbiotic relationship must be greatly diminished and the economic empowerment of the working class must be at the top of the agenda.

      Otherwise, I help kill the party with great vigor.

      "I welcome their hatred"    Franklin D. Roosevelt
    • Phlem (612 posts)
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      17. The Thirdway needs to go.

      Been singing that song for a while now.

      I hear ya bud.

    • VoiceOfReason (989 posts)
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      18. One democrat neolib does more damage to democracy

      Than  3 hard core  republican RWnuts.

      An example of a neolib is Allan Jerkewitz.

      He has been on M$M a lot lately defending drump’s travel ban.

      His specialty, as a lawyer, was getting guilty people  acquitted.

      He was accused of some sexual hanky panky once but he got away with it.

      Personally, I think he’s a lobbyist for Israel.

       

      "Men who do evil brilliantly are often admired"  Voltaire BERN BABY BERN!!  War is madness!
    • Fawke Em (4090 posts)
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      19. Even when it's plainly pointed out to them, they STILL don't get

      why we’re not unified with their side of the party:

      Linda Sarsour Tweeted this:

      And got this snarky remark from the establishment’s pit-bull Neera:

          
    • doh1304 (423 posts)
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      20. Agree, but in 2016 the superdelegatees

      were really nothing but a symbolic issue. If they had done their job and prevented the party from nominating a sure loser – Hillary – then we would be thanking them for performng an essential service.

      • Ohio Barbarian (5337 posts)
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        23. Irrelevant. They didn't, did they?

        The superdelegates’ only function has always been to prevent a real progressive or someone “too far to the left” from getting the Democratic nomination. That’s why the DLC established them in the first place.

        Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.   
        • ThomPaine (4554 posts)
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          27. BINGO!!

          aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
      • ThomPaine (4554 posts)
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        26. Faaar from symbolic. 92% of those that endorsed a candidate choose

        Clinton before anyone voted.  That influences voters.  Then they didn’t change their minds when their states went for Sanders.

        Clinton didn’t get enough votes in the first ballot to win without Super Delegates.  Who knows what would have happened if they had to go to a second vote.

        And their function isn’t in any way to prevent a loser from getting nominated, it’s to keep the Elite Establishment in power.

        aka rhett o rick.     The rich treat us like ants. They may avoid stepping on us, but if our home is in the way of their new swimming pool, we can kiss our ants goodbye.
    • Ohio Barbarian (5337 posts)
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      24. The DNC wants us progressives to unify behind the same people who have

      consistently lied to us and betrayed us since at least 1992, all in the name of opposing the spoiled, narcissistic, and obviously mentally ill Child-in-Chief they allowed to get into the White House by their arrogance and sheer incompetence.

      They still do not oppose Trump on the issues that matter–from his abominable “health care” proposal to his disastrous budge proposal–only on his unsubstantiated Russian connections. I don’t see Perez or Pelosi or Schumer going on the Sunday news shows and advocating for single payer health insurance, or reinstating Glass-Steagall, or denouncing his wish to needlessly waste more tax dollars on military contractors. I don’t see them advocating for Medicare for all or for taxes on Wall Street transactions. I don’t see them defending the EPA or the Great Lakes Restoration Project, I don’t see them even defending Medicaid expansion, PBS, or the National Institutes of Health or even the friggin’ Coast Guard!

      Even John Kasich has done more than they have!

      We are quite capable of opposing both them and Trump, thank you very much.

      Ignorance is the foundation of tyranny.