LIFTOFF: SpaceX blasts into new era of human spaceflight with historic launch. Launch successful
May 31, 2020 at 2:45 AM - Views: 119 #320852
<strong class=”dateline”>BREVARD COUNTY, Fla. —
A rocket ship designed and built by Elon Musk’s SpaceX company has lifted off with two Americans on a history-making flight to the International Space Station.
The spacecraft took off Saturday afternoon from the same launch pad at Cape Canaveral, Florida, that was used during the Apollo missions to the moon a half-century ago.
The flight ushers in a new era in commercial space travel and marks the first time NASA has launched astronauts from U.S. soil in nearly a decade.
Saturday’s flight would be the first launch of astronauts into orbit by a private company, and NASA’s first human spaceflight from U.S. soil in nearly a decade
The SpaceX Crew Dragon carried by a Falcon 9 rocket is headed to the International Space Station on an open-ended mission.
SpaceX and NASA look to usher in a new era of American space flight and exploration with goals to return to the moon in eventually a mission to Mars.
May 31, 2020 at 3:19 AM #320864Mr. Mickeys MomModerator
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All the corporate news stations were excited and on air with talking heads, including the new guy of NASA who talked up Trump and Space Force. The only station that didn’t jump up and down per SpaceX was Newsy, which reports non-privatized news.
I’m a bit irritated, not because of this type of advanced science, but because we jump for joy about how Bob and Doug don’t have to feel G forces on their back, as some guy feels the equivalent G force on across his chest and neck as some cop kills him with joy.
Tell me how advanced this makes us as a species, again?
Hell, no... I'm not giving up...
May 31, 2020 at 3:56 AM #320874Ohio BarbarianModerator
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Because without the search for abstract knowledge we’re not human. Because we are born explorers with curiosity and a zest for adventure.
Coming back down to Earth, I’d rather see my tax dollars go to this than to police departments right now.
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May 31, 2020 at 4:40 AM #320892
How about your tax dollars going to elon musk?
I’d rather not, thanks.
Especially when I read that the engineering was actually done by the government despite musk’s hype.
June 1, 2020 at 6:30 AM #321419
including big names in the MIC. Because NASA doesn’t design and build it’s own hardware. It only operates it, whether in space or in the air (remember the first ‘A’ means ‘aeronautics’.) It’s been that way since the very beginning. What Musk is doing really isn’t any different than what Lockheed and Rockwell have done in the past.
"Cake or death?"
May 31, 2020 at 3:55 AM #320873
Of course NASA is praising Trump right now. They are getting more funding, more scientists and engineers, and attention… They will praise any administration that supports space exploration.
And say what you want about Elon Musk and private companies being involved (and yes, the whole Space Force thing is a bit worrisome), but NASA was going nowhere on their own. They were not getting the money and there was too many internal battles over direction after the shuttle program was retired. We ended up relying on the Russians for the past decade just to get to the space station. Something had to change. So now there is finally some consensus on which way to go. There is finally some leadership at NASA. And now there is hope we may be moving towards making more achievements in space. It’s inevitable. Humans are explorers. We always push to go to the next frontier, regardless of domestic problems.
We are also starved for some positive news. Between COVID-19, protests, partisan debates, etc.. the world still has to turn. Life has to go on.
But also keep in mind that despite all the chaos, turmoil, debate, war, and protests of the civil rights era in the 1960s…we were still able to land a man on the moon. We were still able to make accomplishments and advance technology, math, and science.
May 31, 2020 at 4:43 AM #320893
NASA was going nowhere on their own they were not getting the money
= by design. Now Musk IS getting the (government) money & suddenly things work?
Bullshit story, especially since I read government engineers did more of the work than anyone at Musk’s bullshit Potemkin stock market fraud company.
May 31, 2020 at 4:06 AM #320878
May 31, 2020 at 5:50 AM #320973FasttenseParticipant
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Our tax dollars were used so Musk’s ego could be stroked.
He used our engineers, our facilities, our workers, our science. But the filthy rich guy gets the credit for it. What exactly did he do but use a little of some money his dead relatives left behind?
Some lazy filthy rich guy buys out NASA at pennies on the dollar…so what?
I hate to complain about space exploration. It is something we need to do. My father and brother both worked for NASA and got laid off when funding was cut. But letting the filthy rich cannibalize our space program that all our tax dollars built just is not impressive.
We could have done what Musk is claiming credit for. Why don’t we tax Musk, use the money to fund our space program again and cut out the ego stroking?
May 31, 2020 at 5:59 AM #320981
If it wasn’t SpaceX, it would be Boeing or some defense contractor. It’s inevitable that private companies would be involved in space exploration at some point and in some fashion. SpaceX won’t be the first or only ones either.
Also just to point out, this wasn’t initially put in motion by Trump (even though many are giving him credit). It was the Obama administration’s idea to get private companies involved to give a boost to NASA, and SpaceX beat out Boeing in that race. Trump adopted the program and gave it a push with more funding.
But this was Obama’s idea to get private companies and NASA to work together. This is largely a bipartisan thing. So you can’t blame the MAGA people for starting down this path.
May 31, 2020 at 8:06 AM #321026
“this was Obama’s idea to get private companies and NASA to work together”
— there’s no one here who doesn’t know that, & no one who thinks that excuses this admin.
any response besides ‘democrats did it first’?
May 31, 2020 at 6:29 AM #320995
Just think of all the poor and homeless who could have been helped with all that wasted money on such an endeavor.
I know I’m in the minority when it comes to space exploration and all the billions and billions of dollars spent on it. It would be acceptable to me if every single human being on THIS Planet was taken care of, but the opposite has always been true and because of that, I find it all offensive.
As a reminder, we have 500,000 homeless people in this country and depression Era unemployment and THIS is what Musk chooses to waste his money on? 👎
I hate it. Always have.
May 31, 2020 at 6:39 AM #321000
May 31, 2020 at 6:51 AM #321003
The technology gained from the space program has advanced our technologies that have saved lives today. It increases our understanding of physics, math, and our universe. That trickles down to ALL the sciences and throughout our civilization.
Future technologies gained from going to Mars could lead to new energy systems, new transportation systems, radiation shielding, and increasing food output. All of which can save lives and reduce climate change. It’s not a waste of money. These technologies benefit all of us.
May 31, 2020 at 7:03 AM #321008Pam2Participant
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May 31, 2020 at 8:11 AM #321027
NASA’s budget is very small compared to other ares of the budget that is a total waste. You get rid of NASA, that money will vanish and not solve one single social problem.
NASAs budget is $22 billion. Sound like a lot but take that and write a check to every American, and it’s only $65 a year. 65 dollars! Is that going solve any social problem? Is that going to solve world hunger? Is that going to solve racism?
June 1, 2020 at 6:21 AM #321417
yes, it could solve world hunger.
yes, it could solve racism.
the technology you vaunt won’t getting rid of the problems incognito talked about
we don’t need anymore tech that will be privatized to someone’s profit and other’s loss
we don’t need to grow food on mars, there’s plenty of food on earth
we need to check the power of the rich & the 1%, who are literally killing us
and we need to put elon musk in hair jail
and his new baby vampire wife in makeup jail
and the whole 1% in useless jail
since they are worse than useless and downright murderous
May 31, 2020 at 8:24 AM #321029
Plus, we know the real aim is further weaponization of space & probably resource colonization.
June 1, 2020 at 6:43 AM #321424
It’s not like NASA’s budget is breaking the bank. It’s really one of the smallest budgets of all agencies.
Do you know what it is, or what percentage it represents of the entire federal budget? I’ll tell you:
Yep. One-half of one-percent of the entire federal budget. Here’s a link for proof. The United States Department of Housing and Urban Development gets twice that, and even that’s a pittance compared to what should be spent.
"Cake or death?"
June 1, 2020 at 8:50 PM #321571
It doesn’t include Trump’s idiotic fucking insane Space Force, Musk’s space program or Bezos’ space program (does GATES have one too? … and any other gazillionaire’s wasted money that should be used to help the less fortunate.
NASA’s budget hasn’t always been that small. This shit has been going on for 60 years and homelessness and unemployment is only getting worse.
Doing both has NEVER even been a thought. And it never will be.
June 2, 2020 at 3:34 AM #321734
NASA’s budget has only ever gone over 1% of the federal budget 16 times out of its 62 years of existence. Most of those times were during the Apollo project, and then three years in the early 1990s where it just barely went over 1%.
With regards to the billionaires of the aerospace industries, you need to also read my post up above. NASA wouldn’t exist without private companies building everything for them. NASA doesn’t build the rockets. Yes, they do build exploration satellites and robots, but those costs are minuscule compared to how much delivery systems cost. NASA does operate those systems most of the time, because they have the existing infrastructure to do that task.
I guess because NASA is relatively small in comparison to the other agencies that they’re just low hanging fruit to the critics. If our government was managed better, you’d likely have more funds than you could ever spend on the needy just from the waste lost at the Pentagon.
"Cake or death?"
June 1, 2020 at 5:29 AM #321405PasticheParticipant
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June 1, 2020 at 8:09 PM #321559retired liberalParticipant
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Trillions for corruption, destruction caused by our world wide in needless forever wars.
Pocket change for learning, helping people, combating Global Warming, getting our numbers under control, Pandemic control.
We are an arrogant species, believing our fantasy based "facts" are better than the other person's fake facts.
If you are wrong, it will be because you are not cynical enough.
Both major political parties are special interest groups enabling each other for power and money, at the expense of the people they no longer properly serve…
June 2, 2020 at 3:12 AM #321724bazukhovParticipant
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Of course we can expect him to praise Free Enterprise for Making America Great Again….and littering space with more junk.
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