Mask drama.

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    • #483332
      HassleCat
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      https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/comment-were-masks-really-such-an-imposition-on-liberty/

      Much rejoicing at the end of mask mandates. All depends on your perspective, I guess.

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      roody
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      • #483350
        HassleCat
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        Medical clinics still require them. I wear mine to the grocery store or anyplace with crowds. I would absolutely wear it on an airplane.

    • #483403
      Ohio Barbarian
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      They’ve all either had all the Covid variants or been vaccinated against them. It’s no more likely that one will catch the virus on an airplane than one will in a grocery store, and the mask mandates did not reduce the infection rate on aircraft from what they were before the mandates were imposed.

      IOW, if it’s not a H-95 mask or better, the mask does not prevent inhalation of airborne viruses. This whole thing was bogus, and those airline employees know it. So do a lot of passengers, I’m sure.

      Unfortunately, the article implies they’re just selfish people who don’t care about the health of their fellow citizens, and I am really, really sick of that particular kind of moralizing propaganda.

      Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

      The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

      • #483637
        eridani
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        Are you saying that masks can stop flu but not COVID?

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/flu-has-disappeared-worldwide-during-the-covid-pandemic1/

        Since the novel coronavirus began its global spread, influenza cases reported to the World Health Organization from the Northern and Southern Hemispheres have dropped to minute levels. The reason, epidemiologists think, is that the public health measures taken to keep the coronavirus from spreading—notably mask wearing and social distancing—also stop the flu. Influenza viruses are transmitted in much the same way as SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, and they are less effective at jumping from person to person.

        As Scientific American reported in November 2020, the drop-off in flu numbers following COVID’s arrival was swift and global. Since then, cases have stayed remarkably low. “There’s just no flu circulating,” says Greg Poland, who has studied the disease at the Mayo Clinic for decades. The U.S. saw about 700 deaths from influenza during the 2020–2021 season. In comparison, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates there were approximately 22,000 U.S. deaths in the prior season and 34,000 deaths two seasons ago.

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        • #483660
          Ohio Barbarian
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          Huh? If it was masks reducing the spread, then wouldn’t there be more cases of influenza in places like Ohio and Florida than there are on the Left Coast or New York or New England?

          So it’s not masks. My best guess is that natural immunity to Covid boosts the immune system against influenza. It could also be that the flu strains for the past couple of years have been mild. I don’t know what it is, but it’s not masks.

          Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

          The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

          • #483764
            eridani
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            eom

            Jesus: Hey, Dad? God: Yes, Son? Jesus: Western civilization followed me home. Can I keep it? God: Certainly not! And put it down this minute--you don't know where it's been! Tom Robbins in Another Roadside Attraction

            • #483793
              HassleCat
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              Feelings. Nothing more than feelings… Americans don’t like being required to do something, and they will rationalize like mad to get all fierce and insistent about opposing something trivial like masks. Look how many people faked a medical disability to not wear a mask. Now the Vax – don’t Vax thing is a little different because there is a risk-benefit calculation there, but a mask is not going to alter your DNA and make you cannibal. Americans simply rejoice in doing the opposite of what we’re told to do. I guess it’s to prove we’re not steeple or something like that.

            • #483798
              Ohio Barbarian
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              Go to any state health website and look for hospitalizations with influenza. You’ll find that Covidiot states like New York and California have rates that are about the same, maybe slightly higher, than non-mandate states like Ohio and Indiana.

              You, too, @hasslecat . I’m saying mask mandates are unacceptable because there is no public health reason for them. You’re saying the government has the right to tell us we have to wear masks for a common cold. I say that is an authoritarian attitude, and maybe a virtue-signaling one.

              Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

              The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

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