Michael Flynn Wants Trump To Declare Martial Law And Redo The Election

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    • #382807
      leftcoast mountains
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      12/02 /2020

      The news release cites “massive, planned, illegal election fraud” carried out by Democrats. Trump lost the election handily to President-elect Joe Biden and no widespread fraud has been found.

      If the president doesn’t declare martial law, the statement retweeted by Flynn warns, “we will also have no other choice but to take matters into our own hands and defend our rights on our own.”

      A retired Army general’s support for the military takeover of U.S. government shocked many people on Twitter.

      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-martial-law-new-election_n_5fc7d3e6c5b6f3fe59724a45

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    • #382809
      HassleCat
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      Trying to instigate an armed revolt. Of course, overthrowing the government by force is treason. What about advocating violent overthrow of the government? This guy was an army general? Holy shit!

      • #383114
        JonLP
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        Though they weren’t unique in selling out the country to the highest bidder.

        Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

      • #383192
        Voltairine
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        Not really. The law text:

         

        Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.

        There is actually very strong case of Treason to be made against Brennan, Hillary Clinton and Obama. Last time Congress officially declared war, it is commonly and clearly understood that it was primarily targeted against AQ and affiliates. As faux as “War on Terror” is, it is the official law of the land. and Timber Sycamore, which Brennan and Clinton pushed and Obama finally agreed to, meant knowingly giving aid and comfort to AQ and it’s affiliates in Syria. Strong critique against that treasonous act came from the then head of Pentagon intelligence Flynn.

        These are the stakes and what’s behind deep state infight and persecution of Flynn by Brennan’s camp. Flynn’s psychological reasons for recommending martial law seem understandable in the face of his illegal persecution by strong elements in FBI etc. Declaration of martial law has legally nothing to do with strictly and narrowly defined treason:

        Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon himself to declare martial law. In these times, Congress may decide not to act, effectively accepting martial law by failing to stop it; Congress may agree to the declaration, putting the official stamp of approval on the declaration; or it can reject the President’s imposition of martial law, which could set up a power struggle between the Congress and the Executive that only the Judiciary would be able to resolve.
        https://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_mlaw.html

         

        Aloha!

        • #383195
          JonLP
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          Two witnesses? It is really outdated. OK I will be witness number 1.

          I think the traitors today are bigger traitors than Benedict Arnold.

          If it is treason in Syria (I have no idea what group received what from the US) then it is treason that we ally with Saudi Arabia and it was treason when Reagan trained the Mujahedeen. (Saudi Arabia provided the funding).

          In spy world if someone is compromised by other spies they are considered traitors but they have other laws to address what laws they may have broke.

          Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

          • #383200
            Voltairine
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            Yes, after 9/11  2001 AUMF War powers given by Congress, you could make case that any aid and comfort to Saudi Arabia is treason. Not only SA, but also Turkey etc. Carter and Reagan supporting Mujahedin in Afganistan happened before the last declaration of war.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timber_Sycamore

            The rebels that the CIA program gave material support to were allied with Al-Nusra branch of AQ (which has changed name many times) and it was clear that weapons etc. would end up in hands of official enemy of US, as happened. Pentagon limited it’s co-operation and support to secular elements of rebels who allied with Kurdish militia (forming SDF) to fight against both ISIS and Al-Nusra led “rebel” coalition heavily influenced and later fully controlled by Turkey, but refrained from large scale armed conflict against Assad. And as CIA and Pentagon supported different sides of civil war that were often in armed conflict against each other, Pentagon and CIA were in de facto proxy war against each other.

            It can be very healthy and refreshing to spin your narratives and interpretations from facts, instead of trying to invent facts to fit your favourite partisan tribal narrative, what ever that may be. You have military background, IIRC? If so, you really should be aware of all of this.

            Aloha!

            • #383206
              JonLP
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              Here is the judge from Michael Flynn’s case.


              “This crime is very serious,” Sullivan said, noting that Flynn lied “In the White House! In the West Wing!” Flynn shouldn’t “minimize” his “very serious” offense, Sullivan said.

              “Arguably, you sold your country out,” Sullivan told Flynn. He then asked the government whether undermining U.S. sanctions against Russia for their interference in the 2016 election could be considered treason, a suggestion the government didn’t want to weigh in on. (Soon after, the judge said he did not mean to suggest Flynn committed treason.)

              https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c17ede2e4b02d2cae8bf112

              I see people point out the letter of the law all the time but when I mean that they are traitors I mean they sold out the country.

              You think there is a case to made with charging Obama, Clinton, & Brennan with treason so I’m not the one spinning facts to fit a narrative.

               

              Let this radicalize you rather than lead you to despair - Mariame Kaba

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      • #383194
        Voltairine
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        Not even sedition. The highest executive and commander in chief can’t be guilty of sedition, by definition. Sedition means opposing government and it’s executive branch by force.

        https://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/sedition.html

        If commander in chief declares martial law, but congress opposes that, you get a mighty mess which judicial branch is supposed to solve, apparently. In practice, more likely outcome seems civil war, with 2 or more sides considering themselves as real government and declaring the other side guilty of sedition.

        Aloha!

      • #383220
        Bernie Boomer
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        Brandenburg v. Ohio give him the right to say it.

        It’s kind of an interesting legal issue – since sedition is any overt action or speech (the US doesn’t have a seditious libel law, I don’t think) that incites revolution against the established authority/government, and treason is the act of attempting to overthrow the established government, if Trump were to pull a stunt like that before he leaves office would it be illegal?

        Terminally stupid, yes – but I’m not sure he could be charged. Can you overthrow yourself?

    • #383123
      Mr. Mickeys Mom
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      Reminds me of the movie, Network… guaranteed a 50 share of great ratings with a newly revamped network owned and operated by Trump and his prime time line up of goons.

      The Flynn Flan Hour of Treason

      Hell, no... I'm not giving up...

    • #383124
      Satan
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      ….but I doubt either of us will get our wishes.

      "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable". - John F. Kennedy

    • #383217
      salemcourt
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      Under reelection with strict third party supervision.

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