More than 250 Ukrainian troops surrender as Kyiv orders Mariupol to yield

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    • #487284
      Ohio Barbarian
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      KYIV/NOVOAZOVSK, Ukraine, May 17 (Reuters) – More than 250 Ukrainian fighters surrendered to Russian forces at the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol and Kyiv said it had ordered its entire garrison to evacuate, heralding the end of Europe’s bloodiest battle in decades.

      Reuters saw buses leave the steelworks overnight and five of them arrive in the Russian-held town of Novoazovsk, where Moscow said they would be treated for wounds.

      In one, marked with the Latin letter ‘Z’ that has become the symbol of Russia’s assault, wounded men were lying on stretchers three bunks high. One man was wheeled out, his head tightly wrapped in thick bandages.

      While both sides spoke of a deal under which all Ukrainian troops would abandon the huge steelworks, many details were not yet public, including how many fighters remained inside and whether any form of prisoner swap had been agreed in advance.

      Full story here

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    • #487289
      Yanath
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      But Reuters never misses an opportunity to perpetuate narratives that are at odds with those of much more reliable sources.

    • #487290
      jbnw
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      1. In total, over 2,500 people were at Asovstal at the time the surrender began.
      2. Of these, the fighters of Azov numbered 804 people.
      3. Of the total, there are 404 wounded, of which 55 are severe.
      4. Over 200 corpses in a frozen state.
      5. Three Allied forces’ POWs (1 officer, 2 soldiers)

      https://t.me/Slavyangrad/717

      A prisoner exchange is highly unlikely and may be banned by the Russian law.

      The State Duma intends to legislatively prohibit the exchange of Nazi prisoners from Azov*

      This proposal was made by Deputy Anatoly Wasserman. He stressed that Russia should not allow the implementation of Kiev’s plans for their release.

      “Nazi criminals should not be exchanged, they should be brought to justice,” the speaker of the State Duma Volodin replied to his proposal.

      https://t.me/sputnik/4178

      I do not believe we will know details until this is complete; there is very little coverage in Russian news.

    • #487292
      jbnw
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      The Nazis did not apologize, they were not afraid, but they could not look us in the eye. The enemy at Azovstal began to surrender.

      The KP special correspondent spoke with the Ukrainian military at the underground tunnel at Azovstal for several hours.

      By one o’clock in the afternoon, the radio spoke clearly and sternly: do not open fire, sappers will start working from 13:00, open the mined passage for those who surrender and dismantle the rubble. Everyone take their positions, triple their vigilance, and prevent provocations. The exit of the first group with the wounded at 15:00.

      The “Azovites” were walking, sometimes stopping and squatting over some dark green boxes sprinkled with dust. These were home-made mines made of cartridge zinc stuffed with plastid. And all this happened in complete silence.

      Azovites reached the exit from the yard and stopped in some confusion.

      They did not look into the asphalt, but they did not look into our eyes either. All young, up to twenty and change.

      https://t.me/Slavyangrad/724

    • #487296
      gordyfl
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      The few articles I read this morning (including CNN) used the word “evacuate” instead of “surrender”. It appeared to be a surrender.

    • #487314
      jbnw
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      Mariupol, Azovstal Surrender Update (Aleksandr Khodakovsky, commander of the DNR Vostok Brigade, on the scene):

      “They are coming out in batches of between seven and eighty people, at long intervals, without any special organization … The process can stretch out,” Aleksandr Khodakovsky stated about the surrender of Ukrainian servicemen from Azovstal. According to him, today’s expected number of POWs is 1,000 militants, but it could be less.

    • #487315
      jbnw
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      At least seven buses carrying #Ukrainian military personnel left the “#Azovstal” steel plant, escorted by #Russian armed forces, Reuters reported.

      Note that Reuters calls it surrender, rather than extraction or evacuation.

    • #487317
      jbnw
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      Deputy Russian Permanent Representative to the UN, Dmitry Polyansky commented on a New York Times article that “Ukraine has completed a ‘combat mission’ in Mariupol” and that the Azov fighters “were evacuated, which marked the end of the fighting” at Azovstal.

      “I didn’t know there were so many ways to convey a simple message in English: the Nazi [regiment] Azov surrendered without conditions,” said Polyansky.

      https://t.me/Slavyangrad/760

      • #487328
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Can you imagine the reaction if FDR had said the American Army had “completed its combat mission” on Bataan in 1942?

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

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    • #487320
      jbnw
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      It’s been eight years. I really, really hope that this means that the conflict could end soon – within months – as the military in Azovstal were permitted to surrender.

      Perhaps the billions for Ukraine could be used for reconstruction instead.


      @ohiobarbarian
      , my apologies for too many updates here, but you started a good topic for today 🙂

      • #487329
        Ohio Barbarian
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        Update away.

        Never let your morals stop you from doing the right thing.--Isaac Asimov

        The United States is also a one-party state but, with typical American extravagance, they have two of them.--Julius Nyerere

    • #487335
      jbnw
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      “The plan for the day is 1,000 [POWs]. Only a couple more daylight hours remain before the passages will be closed, but the plan is still far from being fulfilled⁠—they are emerging in groups of seven and in groups of eighty, with long intervals and without any apparent organization… who is there to organize them?

      The process may stretch longer [than expected], and, even when the last of them to emerge reports that he is the absolute last one there, only a mop-up will deliver the final verdict.

      We are, of course, expecting surprises. Just like with the Ilyich Factory surrender, they will try to destroy all their equipment, up to and including cellphones, and their weapons, hoping that we get nothing.”

      https://t.me/Slavyangrad/783

    • #487368
      jbnw
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      “It’s so beautiful – it must be.”

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